Bethany Joy - The Bold, the Bitchy and the Beautiful: on to the SPOILERS! - Page 3

Idlewild · 02-05-2005, 09:03 AM

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Ah yea they do. I'm confused now.

I dunno what to think. And I'm too tired to even understand this insanity, lol.

I don't think anyone understands this mess. Why do we need Haley hate when we already have Dan and Deb? The ratings are down, and this is Mark's solution?

**joypiter** · 02-05-2005, 09:03 AM

Yeah. can't they take the hint when they see the ratings. They are going down more and more. WB definitely has something to do with it.

Idlewild · 02-05-2005, 09:08 AM

I'm curious as to how Mark's going to redeem Haley after this. Is she going to be everyone's love-to-hate bitch of OTH from now on? I'd like think that Mark will somehow redeem her and turn her back to the way she was. But I know better than to trust him.

Not even love-to-hate, I guess. People will probably want Haley to stay away from Tree Hill permanently, so Nathan can hook up with Taylor.

pinkpretzel · 02-05-2005, 09:12 AM

Okay, this "absense" probably is for the s/l. I really don't think Mark has something against Joie, he prolly just don't care much for the character Haley. Or he's just a really lousy storyteller.

I really don't like this music s/l, it doesn't make sense. Sure I love hearing Joie sing, that's always great. But if Haley goes out now, in the middle of school, to pursue this music thing, it's gonna make her look bad. Ppl are already calling her SELFISH (but heck, we can all be guilty of that sometimes), a CHEATER, a LIAR. And this is a girl who has MORALS, SMART, LEVEL-HEADED. Mostly, she has a HUSBAND, she's MARRIED, she vowed to be in this MARRIAGE, til DEATH do them part. Surely the writers haven't forgetten that, have they?

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People will probably want Haley to stay away from Tree Hill permanently, so Nathan can hook up with Taylor.

Not just with her. There's also Peyton. Oh and Brooke.

**joypiter** · 02-05-2005, 09:16 AM

Yeah, its' all just completely crazy and it foesn't make sense at all. Why would she leave and right now? She said she wanted to be with Nathan, for ir to work and now they are trying to make us blelieve that Poser or whatever gets her to leave with HIM to New York for her music? Give me a break! This is sooo Roswell it's not even funny!

Roswell and M/M went like this:

M/M were together. Billy, Maria's old ugly b/f came to town. H e started signign with Maria. He kissed her. He talked her into going to New York with him and leave Michael. Sound familiar?

When I look at it, IS Roswel!!!!!!!

They should add Karen, Jules and Anna to the bunch too.

Idlewild · 02-05-2005, 09:18 AM

Why not sleep with Deb, too? Drama Drama...

Did Maria ever come back?

**joypiter** · 02-05-2005, 09:20 AM

Thinking the same thing. The more the merrier right? Let's throw in the guys too.

Yeah, she did but it was never the same. It completely messed up the show an di hated s3 aka the last season. They flushed the show down the toilet when they did that. The same thing is goign to happen to OTH. M&M were the only reason I watched so in s3, I didn't have a reason anymore.

pinkpretzel · 02-05-2005, 09:20 AM

I know. It's so Roswell, what's the point of almost copying that s/l?

All these new characters are so pointless. I'm semi-liking Anna although she's taking away Haley's role as Lucas' best friend. Andy because he's cute, lol.

Idlewild · 02-05-2005, 09:21 AM

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I really don't think Mark has something against Joie, he prolly just don't care much for the character Haley.

This is what I don't get. I consider Haley to be the most integral female character of the show. OTH is about two brothers, right? She used to be the best friend to one, and she's now a wife to the other. I mean, come on!!!

pinkpretzel · 02-05-2005, 09:22 AM

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Yeah, she did but it was never the same. It completely messed up the show an di hated s3 aka the last season. They flushed the show down the toilet when they did that. The same thing is goign to happen to OTH. M&M were the only reason I watched so in s3, I didn't have a reason anymore.

I heard Roswell went down the tube during s3. Who likes cheating??

**joypiter** · 02-05-2005, 09:22 AM

I start laughign when I think about it. They have so digged their own grave here. There are no scenes with the original characters anymore and there are no school or basketball scenes, what it really was about in the beginning. Thanks WB.

**joypiter** · 02-05-2005, 09:23 AM

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I heard Roswell went down the tube during s3. Who likes cheating??

It did. It got cancelled in s3 and I am not surprised. It totally and utterly SUCKED! Cheating does that. The show was all about sex and cheating in the end.

Idlewild · 02-05-2005, 09:24 AM

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Who likes cheating??

WB and Mark. They should get married and then cheat on each other.

No matter how loyal NH fans are, if the show keeps messing around with NH like the way they seem to do these days, no one's going to stick around. I certainly won't. I'll stop watching and just come here to get news on Joie.

ETA. That's not true. That's just my rage talking. I'll keep watching as long as Joie's on. But I won't be happy about it!

pinkpretzel · 02-05-2005, 09:25 AM

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This is what I don't get. I consider Haley to be the most integral female character of the show. OTH is about two brothers, right? She used to be the best friend to one, and she's now a wife to the other. I mean, come on!!!

That's not how it works for Mark. Peyton's the moral center, didn't you know?

It doesn't make sense. Haley was the reason Nathan and Lucas got along, she's the one connected to both, emotionally.

And how I hated it that when Lucas came back to TH from Charlotte, his reasons didn't even include coming back for his best friend??? WTF?

**joypiter** · 02-05-2005, 09:26 AM

Yep, there is only so much more the fans can take. I know what it was like with M&M and I stopped watching Roswell after s2. I haven't seen all the s3 eps because it sucked so bad. I can already see this happening to OTH. I'll always love my s1 NH. ALWAYS!