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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | News and Articles #19: The NY Times got it right; Southlad is best-reviewed show of recent years! Welcome to Ben Mckenzie News thread ![]() Search for More Ben News and sightings __________________ Icon:Hayat If you pursue the pop-culture thing and indulge yourself in it, go to all the events and get yourself on the cover of Us Weekly every week, that fame is fleeting,It's not a road you can navigate for a long time. People get tired of you and you burn out. Ben Mckenzie | |||
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__________________ Icon:Hayat If you pursue the pop-culture thing and indulge yourself in it, go to all the events and get yourself on the cover of Us Weekly every week, that fame is fleeting,It's not a road you can navigate for a long time. People get tired of you and you burn out. Ben Mckenzie Last edited by LoveBEN : 10-08-2009 at 09:26 PM. | |||||||||
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| Thanks for the new thread Michal. Nice title! So true! And ITA! I hope we hear from Ben this weekend or next week about his feelings regarding the canceling of the show. __________________ I Ben!!!!!!! ![]() | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | You welcome ![]() I'm sure he's pissed. Cudlitz is. __________________ Icon:Hayat If you pursue the pop-culture thing and indulge yourself in it, go to all the events and get yourself on the cover of Us Weekly every week, that fame is fleeting,It's not a road you can navigate for a long time. People get tired of you and you burn out. Ben Mckenzie | |||
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| Oh, I'm sure he's INFURIATED!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ I Ben!!!!!!! ![]() | |||
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| Damned! ![]() ![]() ![]() I've just read all the news and I'm sad, very very sad. (But I'm in a hurry now, off to work and then away for the weekend, so I only want let you know that I'm not ignoring all this when you don't hear from me in the next days. ![]() __________________ icon: DeeGee | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ^I'm very upset about this too . Have fun on your weekend ![]() Southland’ Ends Before It Has a Chance to Begin Again New York Magazine’s entertainment blog Vulture reported this evening that NBC has given the ax to Southland before the second season even had a chance to premiere. According to the post, sources within NBC management thought the show featured too much adult content to be decent for network broadcast at 9 pm, the show’s timeslot in the wake of The Jay Leno Show’s hostile takeover of the 10pm weekday slot. Needless to say, I’m incensed. Southland was but one show I thought NBC treated really terribly last season (Chuck and Kings being the others), sticking it in a terribly competitive timeslot and debuting it randomly in the middle of the season. Watching it, though, I’m just glad they actually took a chance and put it into production; like its spiritual predecessor, NYPD Blue, the show was focused on being an intense look at the lives of beat cops, and it pulled no punches. From near nudity to bleeped profanities to subplots centering on real social issues, Southland was never easy to watch, but it was powerful, featuring exceptional performances from Regina King and Ben McKenzie in particular. In truth, it probably wasn’t right for the 9pm timeslot, even on a Friday when no one is watching TV anyway. But it might have still survived if NBC hadn’t pulled the Leno experiment, which I think we can safely say is a failure in every sense but a financial one. My one shred of hope for the show is a revival on one of NBC’s cable affiliates…Are you there, USA Network? It’s me, Austin! Weekend Watchers Blog Archive ‘Southland’ Ends Before It Has a Chance to Begin Again Southland Canceled: Is Leno Hurting NBC ? It was announced today that NBC has canceled the police drama Southland two weeks before its scheduled Season Two premiere. The show was well received by critics and did reasonably well in the ratings for a mid season replacement during its shortened first season earlier this year. The program was seen by many as offering a very realistic view of police work as seen through the eyes of rookie cop Ben Sherman (played by former OC star Ben McKenzie). It also featured a gay character as his partner, giving a different view of the world behind the badge. For me the show was quite entertaining, giving a look at both the world of the police officer on the streets as well as the complex problems this profession can create in their personal lives. While many think of Mr. McKenzie as being just a pretty boy actor I found him to be quite talented and with a strong stage presence. You wanted him to succeed and felt yourself rooting for him. His partner (played by Michael Cudlitz) presented a different angle on this theme, with his street image as an experienced ‘tough guy’ cop contrasting with his personal life as a semi-closeted gay man. Other characters gave us a look at a variety of personal and professional situations. Having conceded to being a big fan of the show so my view is somewhat biased but I think (and others seem to agree) that this could be a sign of problems at NBC with Jay Leno holding the 10pm slot. The issue with Southland was that it is (or was) a gritty drama with situations that might not be appropriate for the family viewing time. Since NBC can’t air any one hour show later than 9pm/8pm this becomes a problem and prevents them from keeping shows like Southland on the air. In addition the Leno show has not been doing that well in the ratings and often loses to more traditional programming on the other networks. I am not sure what deal NBC has with Leno but if this keeps up they may need to look into changing his schedule. Perhaps putting him in three days a week and leaving two slots open for shows like Southland. Given the quality of the show I expect someone like USA to pick it up, but NBC may have bigger problems if they can’t air anything with serious drama. Southland Canceled: Is Leno Hurting NBC ? | The Moderate Voice __________________ Icon:Hayat If you pursue the pop-culture thing and indulge yourself in it, go to all the events and get yourself on the cover of Us Weekly every week, that fame is fleeting,It's not a road you can navigate for a long time. People get tired of you and you burn out. Ben Mckenzie | |||
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| I hate The Jay Leno Show! It's boring. Please get rid of it!!! I hope Southland gets picked up by cable network. A show like that should air on FX or HBO or another cable network, anyway. __________________ I don't trash talk, I talk smack. They're totally different. Trash talk is all hypothetical, like, “Your mama’s so fat, she could eat the Internet.” But smack talk is happening, like, right now. Like, “You’re ugly and I know it for a fact ‘cause I got the evidence right there.” - Kelly Kapoor [The Office] |Zara| | |||
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| This is unbelievable! NBC are on the slippery slope to oblivion. They aren't a network any more, they're just farcical - and I always suspected NBC might pull something weird after John Wells made that remark about Leno a couple of months ago. Plus, ever since that TCA in the summer, NBC seems to have wanted/expected something different from the show's direction than what the producers/writers wanted/intended to do and that must have frustrated the creative team so much. But I am taking a little comfort from the fact that the actors are still under contract for the time being, and JW says they are actively looking for a new home. If anyone can pull that off, I think he can, with his contacts and reputation, plus that of the show and the actors involved. I think also the fact that NBC hasn't already aired any episodes of S2 will make it more attractive for a pick-up elsewhere as a new network/cable station would be getting the entire S2 as a fresh thing. It's mean, but I hope CBS buy it, promote the hell out of it and stick it up against L&O: SVU or Leno and smash their ratings. And heck, if we don't get it back for this season and it's relaunched on a different network next September that's better than not having it at all. Last edited by callieUK : 10-09-2009 at 02:01 AM. | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thanks for the new thread hun ![]() But what is I´m reading they CANCEL Southland what the ****?!? This makes me so sad no its making me mad that the NBC didn´t see the same as we did, that it is a really good show with alot of great actors. Why did they put Jay Leno first oh well its NBC ![]() But I really hope that Mr Wells find another network for the show. Love the NY Times article and thnks for all rest ![]() | |||
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| OH MY GOD!!! I just read the news in the previous news thread, and I'm both stunned and furious! WTF is NBC thinking??? Cancelling one of its most successful shows of recent years, and partly because the 10 p.m. timeslot is taken by a show that is TANKING in ratings??? The people running that network are MORONS!!! You know, I suspected something was up when no ratings had surfaced and the show was just a couple of weeks away from its season premiere. I'm so angry and disappointed!!! I'm going to call that phone number Michael listed on his Twitter account...This is just OUTRAGEOUS!OK, I'm editing this post so that I don't DP. I just called and left messages for Leslie and Wendy at NBC, courtesy of the phone numbers Michal provided (thanks, Michal! ). However, I was unable to leave a message on the NBC comment line because the voicemail box was full...Wouldn't it be great if it was full of messages from outraged Southland fans??? Anyway, I don't know how articulate I was in my messages and I didn't leave my number, BUT I didn't yell (amazingly! ) and I feel I made my point clear. I haven't yet been able to figure out how to leave comments on anyone's Twitter page, but if I can figure out how to do so, I'll ask Michael if he knows of a different comment line or different phone number in general for fans to call. I'm just so BUMMED, and BAFFLED!!! I could run the network better than the NBC execs! Seriously, WTF are they thinking??? ![]() Last edited by meganoster : 10-09-2009 at 07:11 AM. | |||
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| Good for you for being proactive, Megan. Have you managed to get through to a person yet, or are they all still hiding from the fans behind their voicemail? I love this article. I am so glad the media are pretty much on Southland's side. Quote:
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Here's a comment from Brook Willard, the DIT(DIgital Imaging Technician) on the Show: We were cancelled today. It's an enormous shame - this season's episodes are very strong. It was very sad and entirely unexpected news today. We just screened the first episode on Tuesday and it was absolutely freakin' awesome. We were all joking about how we were going to renegotiate our deals for the back 9 episodes because of the great work we were doing. And then... out of nowhere... cancelled. This article describes the situation best. I'll keep you guys posted on what happens, either here or on my site. We're half way through the sixth episode [directed by J. Michael Muro, I might add], which we will finish next Friday. This is a must read article from NPR http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2009/10...ender_is_a.html Vote in the poll below(with Michael's face) http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/southl...d-out-2750.html From Variety: 'Southland' Decision Further Frays NBC's Creative Ties The creative community is still smarting over NBC's decision to strip "The Jay Leno Show" at 10 p.m. Canceling the gritty John Wells-produced cop drama "Southland" before the show can begin its second season only exacerbates the sense that the network is in full-on cost-containment-over-quality mode. This is a series that not only opened to strong reviews (here's mine from last April) but carried an elite producer pedigree, with former "ER" exec producer and newly elected Writers Guild of America West President Wells at the helm, and Ann Biderman as its principal writer. Although some elements of the large cast worked better than others, Michael Cudlitz and Ben McKenzie were simply outstanding as the tough older cop nurturing the fresh-faced younger one. By acting to in essence cut its losses, NBC has sent a chilling message to drama producers and production companies, indicating that concepts that are moderately demanding have little future there. And while it's understandable that the network would worry about the prospects for such a dark series -- the proposed Friday timeslot was a bad idea from the get-go -- bailing out now amounts to not only a slap to the show's audience but a double whammy for writers disappointed that the former home of "L.A. Law" and "Hill Street Blues" abandoned 10 o'clock dramas. (See my earlier column on that topic.) Newly installed NBC overseer Jeff Gaspin clearly has his work cut out for him, but the "Southland" move -- almost certainly a bitter pill to swallow for Warner Bros. Television, which produces the program -- won't make the inevitable "We love you, bring us your best stuff" pitch from Gaspin and scripted chief Angela Bromstad any easier. Then again, "Southland" was notable for its realism, and in what looks like its last act the show's fictional cops have mirrored the lot of real ones: Despite admirably doing their jobs, they're faced with bean-counting cutbacks. Welcome to L.A. http://weblogs.variety.com/bltv/2009/10/so...ative-ties.html From NY magazine: After the Cancellation of Southland, John Wells and Jay Leno Probably Won’t Be Grabbing Drinks Anytime Soon ![]() While the news that NBC has decided to cancel its critically acclaimed drama Southland ranks as one of the biggest surprises in the world of television in recent memory, it's going to take weeks (and possibly months) to fully understand the ramifications of and fallout from this decision. However, one thing is certain: NBC has greatly damaged the relationship it had with John Wells, who has been one of the network's most successful creative partners for nearly two decades. In addition to creating network hits like ER and Third Watch, the Southland creator also spent a three-year tour of duty as the showrunner of The West Wing. But after his newest baby was unceremoniously shown the door before it even had a chance to stretch its wings, Wells had this to say to The Hollywood Reporter: "I'm disappointed that NBC no longer has the time periods available to support the kind of critically acclaimed series that was for so many years, a hallmark of their success." Translation? A big "F You" to Jeff Gaspin and Jay Leno. In a somewhat ironic twist, Wells — who also happens to be the president of the Writers Guild of America, West — was complaining about NBC's decision to cede five hours of programming to Jay Leno in August. He told the Los Angeles Times that "We lost five hours' worth of time periods that have been known throughout the history of the network for putting some really terrific shows on. I wish NBC and Jay Leno well; personally, he's a very nice guy, but I hope he falls flat on his face and we get five dramas back." Sadly for Wells and fans of quality television, NBC's decision that Southland is "too dark and gritty for 9 p.m." means that, unfortunately, Jay Leno gets the last laugh in this situation. We're betting it's the only laugh he'll get tonight. After the Cancellation of Southland, John Wells and Jay Leno Probably Won’t Be Grabbing Drinks Anytime Soon -- Vulture __________________ Icon:Hayat If you pursue the pop-culture thing and indulge yourself in it, go to all the events and get yourself on the cover of Us Weekly every week, that fame is fleeting,It's not a road you can navigate for a long time. People get tired of you and you burn out. Ben Mckenzie | |||
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Thanks, Callie! I actually didn't leave my last name OR my phone number in either message. I know I may be paranoid, but earlier this week I landed a job in the public relations field, and on the very SMALL chance that I would one day be working with any of these people (I know, I know...I'm totally paranoid, HA HA! But this is my dream job)...I just don't want to risk any of them recognizing my name. I haven't yet tried to call the opinion line again, so I have no idea if it's opened up or not. My hope is that the mailbox is full because so many Southland fans have called that line to complain. | |||
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