The X-Files - X-Files Discussion - If Mulder have never been abducted....

Ice Queen follower · 11-07-2004, 11:48 PM

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Debate #2 If Mulder have never been abucted, and Scully never got pregnant would that have effected the story line for better or for worse and why and what do you think the show would have been like?

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-CherryPixie- · 11-08-2004, 05:01 PM

Hmm...interesting question. I guess if Scully wounldn't have gotten pregnant I think they would have never really admitted their love for each other. And also the whole Mulder abduction made Scully weak and she saw how much she needed him. So I think if he'd never been abducted they'd still be clueless about their affections for eachother. And also I think Scully would still be her old strong and tough self.

Plus the X-Files would not have lost so many fans and the show would not have gone so downhill

girl in a cardigan · 11-08-2004, 07:34 PM

Okay, if we are going to assume that Mulder had never been abducted, does that mean we are assuming that David was going to stay or that Mulder's disappearance would have been explained in a different way?

Ice Queen follower · 11-08-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by -Jenn-
Okay, if we are going to assume that Mulder had never been abducted, does that mean we are assuming that David was going to stay or that Mulder's disappearance would have been explained in a different way?

More as Mulder never dissapeared and David didn't leave ya know. What do you think would have gone differently with the show?

Ice Queen follower · 11-08-2004, 08:03 PM

I myself feel if Mulder never dissapeared and Scully never got pregnant it would have been completely different.

You are right with Mulder gone Scully was weak she showed her weakness more than she had before. Yes the whole thing made them realize the feelings for one another but it lacked the basics of the show. I believe if Mulder was still there, Doggett and Reyes could have still been added on and I think it would have rocked. I was hoping for more of the similar stories like the earlier seasons but really it ended only being about where did Mulder go and Scullys pregnacy, I think they lost viewers and a reason for the show ending after season 9.

girl in a cardigan · 11-09-2004, 03:30 AM

Ah, okay, well, then if David had stayed and Mulder had never disappeared, I think there would have been ridiculous storylines. I don't think it was David leaving and Scully being pregnant that gave us the buttgenie.

As far as Mulder and Scully's relationship, I think it would have continued to progress as it had been. We'd get tiny peaks at their personal life, but not so much that anyone would be able to say concretely that they. are. together.

I would have loved to have seen a storyline where Mulder deals with his overprotectiveness. He's always had it, but you know that if he and Scully had been in the field when they really started to get serious, he would flip out. We saw that in Requiem. I would have also liked to have seen Scully's reason for her reaction to that. I mean, Mulder told fiercely independent Scully, "You're not going back out there. I'm NOT GOING TO LET you go back out there." and she said okay. When did the softening of her character come in?

lollies · 11-09-2004, 09:02 AM

If Mulder had never left the show I think Season Eight would have probably been a repeat of Season Seven, in terms of episode quality and maybe episode structure. I don't think they would have had many mythology episodes and I don't see your Monster of the week episodes improving a whole lot. Although I don’t think it would have been that bad as to lose as much of the fan base that the show did lose in the final two seasons.

Regarding Mulder and Scully's relationship I agree with what you said Jenn. I think the writers would just continue to tease us. Damn them!

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Mulder told fiercely independent Scully, "You're not going back out there. I'm NOT GOING TO LET you go back out there." and she said okay. When did the softening of her character come in?

I've never thought of that before regarding that scene, but that's a really good point, it continued in the following seasons and it never sat with me well. It would have been great to see them explain what happened to cause that change in her character.

girl in a cardigan · 11-09-2004, 09:22 AM

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it continued in the following seasons and it never sat with me well. It would have been great to see them explain what happened to cause that change in her character.

Scully became passive for some reason towards the end of season seven (from what I remember...it's been quite a while since I've seen anything from that season besides Requiem) and I can only assume it had something to do with her relationship with Mulder. Something must have happened, some fight, some situation where they came to an agreement or an understanding. Or perhaps it had nothing to do with Mulder and more to do with what Scully's like in a relationship. Anyway, it's definitely something I would have like to have seen explored as part of the show.

**neel luvs tony** · 08-19-2008, 07:28 AM

erinw · 08-19-2008, 06:13 PM

This is another great topic, but one I will have to give some serious thought to before responding.

However, I do want to respond to this comment:

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Scully became passive for some reason towards the end of season seven and I can only assume it had something to do with her relationship with Mulder. Something must have happened, some fight, some situation where they came to an agreement or an understanding. Or perhaps it had nothing to do with Mulder and more to do with what Scully's like in a relationship.

I never really noticed her becoming more passive in season 7, so I am quite curious about this perception. It wasn't really passiveness I noticed, but more a weariness. Like she had had about enough of all of it and was getting tired. I perceived it like she was ready to move on in some ways. And if she and Mulder became lovers this season, as we all assume, then that makes sense. She was over the endless hunt for the truth and wanted to settle down- with him.

Cindy3138 · 08-19-2008, 10:15 PM

I don't think the show would've improved much. The tone of the show changed after the first movie and they did try to go back in S8 and S9 but it felt more like The Outer Limits than the early X-Files. The one thing that would've improved (IMO) is the mythology.

WyldIce · 08-20-2008, 12:17 AM

I don't think Scully's pregnancy would have affected the show too much, I quite liked that storyline anyway. I think the show would have been greatly improved however, if Mulder had not been abducted, because I'm not sorry to say, that Mulder and Scully were half the show and it just wasn't the same with half the team missing. Plus, I hated how Scully became a believer almost overnight. It was like she was trying to make up for Mulder not being there.

Dr.Brightside · 08-20-2008, 02:27 PM

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I never really noticed her becoming more passive in season 7, so I am quite curious about this perception. It wasn't really passiveness I noticed, but more a weariness. Like she had had about enough of all of it and was getting tired. I perceived it like she was ready to move on in some ways. And if she and Mulder became lovers this season, as we all assume, then that makes sense. She was over the endless hunt for the truth and wanted to settle down- with him.

I wholeheartedly agree with the weariness statement...as S7 wound down and Mulder disappears, the burden of the search without him for "the truth" weighs on Scully. Plus, I'm sure she wished he was present for the entirety of the pregnancy.

Plus, I think for Scully, she believed and participated in the quest for "the truth" because she believed in Mulder, trusted him, loved him. Without him, what was she supposed to do, other than either carry on his quest and be a "believer" or give up? I think if she gave up, she also gave up on him.

Which we know she wouldn't do