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Old 05-07-2008, 10:37 PM
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I didn't know about Ephemeral. Thanks for that link, Cindy. Arguing about the color of the sky? Oh you two girls.

I finally got around to watching a few more episodes of season 5; they were fantastic! Funny, angsty, and too weird. A lovely mix of episodes.

1) 'Joy to the world / There's our FBI guy and girl / Stuck in a forrest, cuddling and scared / Joy to shippers everywhere!' I loved this episode. The funny lines from Mulder and the sleeping bags comment alone makes the semi-lame monster plotline look great. wo guys get killed by something in the woods. Later on a father and son go hunting and the father disappears leading to a search that derails Mulder, Scully, and 2 FBI extras from getting to a teamwork seminar (aww, shucks and we all know how much Mulder wanted to go there. ) I think Scully's voice is very nice, and it was good that they mentioned the cancer arc, if only briefly. As I said, this episode was wonderful; pure shippy awesomeness: innuendo, a smattering of angst and a hint of fluff when they cuddled in the woods. Detour

2) I sense a mytharc afoot. Didn't we just finish a huge mytharc the episode before last? In any case, this 2-parter takes place around the holidays and we get a nice dose of Scully angst (plus an incontinuity with her necklace). Christmas Carol starts off with Scully and her mom visiting Big Brother Bill and his pregnant wife for Christmas, then Scully gets a phone call from a familiar voice (sounded like her dead sister!) who tels her that someone needed Scully's help and she had to go to her. She traces the call to an apparent suicide but gets told no one called from that residence so she just leaves. She calls Mulder and though he picks up, she doesn't answer him. Coward! Just tell him how you're feeling, Scully! *sigh* When she gets back to the table, Pregnant Tara depresses Scully with her preganacy gushing. Now, as a semi-feminist, I have to say Tara's little speech on how she was all fulfilled after she became pregnant annoyed me. It really did. I know this was supposed to be a catalyst for Scully revealing to her mother that she couldn't have kids but that irked me too. Where does it say that you need to have children to have a meaningful life? I would've thought Scully, of all people, was more self-assured. She's a kick-ass agent who already has an overgrown kid to take care of - Mulder! Good God, I should stop before this turns into a mini-rant; it's already taken up too much summary space. Anyway, Scully deduces that the suicide victim, Mrs Sim, was actually murdered possibly by her husband, and when she finds out their daughter Emily was adopted (and Emily looks an awful lot like a young Melissa), Scully gets a test done to determine that Emily's biological mother is actually... Melissa! BUT WAIT, there's more! Emily's dad didn't kill the mother, and the mysterious men who presumably killed her, killed him too when he was arrested. Scully tries to adopt little Emily but a Child Services lady gives plenty of good reasons why she shouldn't, among them being that Emily is really sick and needs constant supervision from someone who isn't a workoholic. In the end it turns out that Melissa Scully is not the mother... but Dana Scully is! This would make an AWESOME Jerry Springer subject!

3) We start with a melodramatic opening where Scully is monologue-ing about... something. If it's about her biological clock ticking I swear... Mulder finally joins up with Scully to meet Emily! Love his Mr. Potato Head impression! He would make the funniest, sweetest, most paranoid father ever! He's not enthusiastic about Scully wanting to adopt Emily and he tells a judge about Scully's ova that was extracted when she was abducted which was then used to create her. He leaves out the part about Emily being an alien/human hybrid. That's the only smart thing he's done so far (I can't believe he didn't tell Scully all this beforehand. BTW, did he ever return her ova? I mean, is he just keeping it in his kitchen freezer or something because that's a little weird. ) Another mysterious phone call leads the two agents to find a feverish Emily. At the hospital (and I must note how sweet it is that the doctor mistook them for Emily's parents) they try and cut off a familiar green goo filled cyst on her neck; a nurse gets a face load of toxic alien blood gases and she falls. The doctor who'd been treating Emily before, refuses to send the hospital her medical records so Mulder goes over to persuade him with a nice kick to the stomach. Awww, I'm gonna add "insanely protective" to the list. The doctor gets away but ends up getting killed by what I assume to be an Alien Bounty Hunter. Yeah, the doctor was a hybrid as well. One of the Bounty Hunters morph into the doctor and goes to visit Emily with a needle. To wrap this up, Mulder finds out that the women who supposedly gave birth to all these hybrids are elderly women! In this same nursing home, he also discovers some kind of vial of green liquid (and a fetus in a jar!) along with a folder on Scully. There's a confrontation between a clone and Mulder but the detective that's been helping out Scully in this 2 parter comes in to distract the clone and get himself severly injured which gives Mulder the chance to get out of there with the vial that could save Emily's life. Except he never gets to use it because Scully realizes the poor girl was not meant to live in this world with all that pain. Mulder doesn't even tell her about the vial. He's gonna probably put it next to Scully's ova. Beats collecting stamps, I suppose. In the end, of course, Emily dies. Scully is depressed, Mulder tries to comfort her and I can't help but wonder how crappy the new year is gonna be for them.

4) This is a whole new level of bizarre, up there with the Jose Chung episode, but bizarre in a good way. How can I not love an episode with crazy locals, some MSR dancing, Jerry Springer and Cher? (Alright, a Cher impersonator. ) Scully reading that letter to Mulder in the car set the unbelievable/silly mood for the rest of the episode. Mulder's getting quite a reputation. That's cool. They soon question the woman who sent the letter and between her bizarre story involving a frying pan and peanut butter, I almost miss Mulder saying that he's not sure he believes in aliens anymore. Say what? Is this what one of you meant (I think Neel) when you said he begins to question his beliefs? Because this is the oddest episode to make that kind of revelation and believe me, for Mulder that's a big thing. As the episode goes on, all I can say is that even though some of it didn't make sense, alot of it made me giggle (Mulder and Scully popping their head out of a hallway, to the diner scene were Mulder gets coffee poured in his lap, to the little scene after Mulder and Scully get knocked unconscious by the gas. ) Really, there are too many little scenes tha I liked, of course the best one being the dance with our favorite pair. I wish we had the color version too but that's my only complaint. (The Post-Modern Prometheus)

You know, I just realized that it's been a while since Mulder met his sister in the D3P-Redux, and there's been no mention of it. You all know how Samantha apparently lives with the CSM but know that he's "dead" what happened to her? Was she *really* his sister? I thought his search for his sister was supposed to drag on a bit longer. I'm sure he talks about her in the movie. I don't mind spoilers I just need to know. And an answer to the "Scully's ova in his freezer" would help out too. Many thanks!
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Where does it say that you need to have children to have a meaningful life? I would've thought Scully, of all people, was more self-assured.
You know, I get what you mean, and it's not only related to having children. Actually there isn't ONE thing exactly, that you have to do or have for your life to be meaningful. But having children, being successful at what you do, getting married, these are all things that we all expect to achieve. We may say we don't, or that it's not necessary, but the truth is we'll all feel frustrated if we don't get these 3 things done, it feels like failing. And for a woman to know that she can't ever have kids, I can't even imagine how much that hurts One thing is to not have kids because you choose not to, another thing is not being able to do it at all I guess that's what hurts the most, knowing that you don't have a choice about that, it feels like a part of your life has been decided in spite of you

I don't know, that's just how I interpret this, but I don't know if it makes sense to you It just makes me very sad
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^ I understand exactly what you mean and I think everybody deep down feel that way.
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1) 'Joy to the world / There's our FBI guy and girl / Stuck in a forrest, cuddling and scared / Joy to shippers everywhere!' !
you write, THE BEST songs ever haha
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In his freezer. From what I remember Mulder takes the ova to a specialist to see if they are still viable (we see him telling her in one of Scully's flashbacks during Per Manum). About the Samantha in Redux, I think in Season 4 they pushed the boundaries of how far Mulder was willing to go to find Samantha (Paper Hearts and Demons) so by S5 Mulder's quest to find his sister started to loose it's intesity and the writters started to focus more on the actual conspiracy. There are mentions of Samantha here and there but not until Sein Und Zeit and Closure (season 7) are there episodes that specifically deal with the search for his sister.
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Nosce Te Ipsum
RATING: R for language and sexual situations
CLASSIFICATION: Vignette; Mulder/Scully Romance
SPOILERS: Per Manum mostly. There are references from a number of episodes.(all things, the Emily story arc,
Milagro, Millenium, Never Again, One Breath, probably some others.)
SUMMARY: Scully comes back home after receiving disappointing news from Dr. Parenti. Some angst, some love.


onpaperfirst: Maps - Post episode of Hollywood AD.

I've never read either of those fics. I'll have to check them out!

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I think it's light blue too but then again, it depends on what part of the day we're talking about. Sometimes when I get home from work I watch the sunset for a little while and we have all kinds of colors there
Yes, it does depend on the time of day!
Sunset is quite lovely, so is dawn. It depends on whose with me and where I am for me to choose which I like better. Lots of pretty colors in each!

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2) I sense a mytharc afoot. Didn't we just finish a huge mytharc the episode before last? In any case, this 2-parter takes place around the holidays and we get a nice dose of Scully angst (plus an incontinuity with her necklace). Christmas Carol starts off with Scully and her mom visiting Big Brother Bill and his pregnant wife for Christmas, then Scully gets a phone call from a familiar voice (sounded like her dead sister!) who tels her that someone needed Scully's help and she had to go to her. She traces the call to an apparent suicide but gets told no one called from that residence so she just leaves. She calls Mulder and though he picks up, she doesn't answer him. Coward! Just tell him how you're feeling, Scully! *sigh* When she gets back to the table, Pregnant Tara depresses Scully with her preganacy gushing. Now, as a semi-feminist, I have to say Tara's little speech on how she was all fulfilled after she became pregnant annoyed me. It really did. I know this was supposed to be a catalyst for Scully revealing to her mother that she couldn't have kids but that irked me too. Where does it say that you need to have children to have a meaningful life? I would've thought Scully, of all people, was more self-assured. She's a kick-ass agent who already has an overgrown kid to take care of - Mulder! Good God, I should stop before this turns into a mini-rant; it's already taken up too much summary space. Anyway, Scully deduces that the suicide victim, Mrs Sim, was actually murdered possibly by her husband, and when she finds out their daughter Emily was adopted (and Emily looks an awful lot like a young Melissa), Scully gets a test done to determine that Emily's biological mother is actually... Melissa! BUT WAIT, there's more! Emily's dad didn't kill the mother, and the mysterious men who presumably killed her, killed him too when he was arrested. Scully tries to adopt little Emily but a Child Services lady gives plenty of good reasons why she shouldn't, among them being that Emily is really sick and needs constant supervision from someone who isn't a workoholic. In the end it turns out that Melissa Scully is not the mother... but Dana Scully is! This would make an AWESOME Jerry Springer subject!

Yes, we DID just have a big mytharc, but TPTB decided to have another one right away! I'm not complaining because this mytharc was one of my favorites. The first part was quite good, lots of lovely Scully angst. I liked the flashbacks and how the creepiness with the phonecalls just builds and builds.

About the Tara-pregnancy-gushing, I can totally see where you're coming from, but I beg to differ. I don't think that it was meant to imply that "very woman needs to have children to be fulfilled. That's not how it came off to me. Every woman, every man, is different and we each find meaning in our lives through different things. For Tara, having a child gave her life meaning. Scully wonders if that's what she needs. All of that is perfectly fine. Some women, and some men, don't feel perfectly content with their lives until they have children. On the other hand, many women and many men are perfectly happy living without children. They find meaning through other things. Neither way is right and the other wrong. It's all a matter of what is right, what is meant for each individual. Everyone has the ability to choose, or rather decipher what is best for themselves. And isn't that one of the main points of feminism? That a woman has the right and the ability to choose what she will, be it a career, marriage,motherhood, all of the above, part of the above, or something entirely different? I didn't feel as if the episode was saying that women can only find fullfilment through motherhood. It was just saying that some women find fulfillment that way. I hope you're not offended by me going off on such a tangent about this. I realize how upset you were by this, and I was attempting to maybe shed a different light on the situation(which is kind of the point of a discussion thread, no?) that would possibly change your mind and make the episode more enjoyable. These are just my views on the episode of course. If you disagree, that's fine. I respect your views and I believe that I truly CAN see where you're coming from.

Getting back to the rest of the episode, didn't you just want to HIT that child-services lady? I mean, I GET why it would be unwise to go around giving sick children to people who don't have time to properly care for them and nurture them, but REALLY? This is SCULLY! She's able to handle Mulder, so a small child should be no problem at all! And also, I've known of many children raised by their stay-at-home birth mothers and not received nearly the amount of love they should have. Scully would make a wonderful mother, and what's more, stupid social service lady, it's HER daughter! HERS! If she wants to keep her, she should be allowed to! But of course, this lady is not privileged to this knowledge. Why can't every character in the series know what we, the viewer, know? Things would work out much more happily in circumstances like this. Even if completely openess and knowledge would ruin most of the series as a whole.

I went on a bit of a ramble there!
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3) We start with a melodramatic opening where Scully is monologue-ing about... something. If it's about her biological clock ticking I swear... Mulder finally joins up with Scully to meet Emily! Love his Mr. Potato Head impression! He would make the funniest, sweetest, most paranoid father ever! He's not enthusiastic about Scully wanting to adopt Emily and he tells a judge about Scully's ova that was extracted when she was abducted which was then used to create her. He leaves out the part about Emily being an alien/human hybrid. That's the only smart thing he's done so far (I can't believe he didn't tell Scully all this beforehand. BTW, did he ever return her ova? I mean, is he just keeping it in his kitchen freezer or something because that's a little weird. ) Another mysterious phone call leads the two agents to find a feverish Emily. At the hospital (and I must note how sweet it is that the doctor mistook them for Emily's parents) they try and cut off a familiar green goo filled cyst on her neck; a nurse gets a face load of toxic alien blood gases and she falls. The doctor who'd been treating Emily before, refuses to send the hospital her medical records so Mulder goes over to persuade him with a nice kick to the stomach. Awww, I'm gonna add "insanely protective" to the list. The doctor gets away but ends up getting killed by what I assume to be an Alien Bounty Hunter. Yeah, the doctor was a hybrid as well. One of the Bounty Hunters morph into the doctor and goes to visit Emily with a needle. To wrap this up, Mulder finds out that the women who supposedly gave birth to all these hybrids are elderly women! In this same nursing home, he also discovers some kind of vial of green liquid (and a fetus in a jar!) along with a folder on Scully. There's a confrontation between a clone and Mulder but the detective that's been helping out Scully in this 2 parter comes in to distract the clone and get himself severly injured which gives Mulder the chance to get out of there with the vial that could save Emily's life. Except he never gets to use it because Scully realizes the poor girl was not meant to live in this world with all that pain. Mulder doesn't even tell her about the vial. He's gonna probably put it next to Scully's ova. Beats collecting stamps, I suppose. In the end, of course, Emily dies. Scully is depressed, Mulder tries to comfort her and I can't help but wonder how crappy the new year is gonna be for them.
Poor Mulder and Scully! This episode always makes me cry! So sad!
Mulder was so awesome in this episode! So protective and, for the most part, supportive! Yeah, he didn't tell her about the ova thing earlier, but I can see why. Not every individual would appreciate knowing there were potentially hundreds of their offspring out there in the world, created without their knowledge, using alien hybridization. I never considered what happened to her ova though. What DID he do with it, exactly? Hmm, maybe it explains a little about how William came to be later?

And yes, Mulder would make an amazing dad albeit an odd one!

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You know, I just realized that it's been a while since Mulder met his sister in the D3P-Redux, and there's been no mention of it. You all know how Samantha apparently lives with the CSM but know that he's "dead" what happened to her? Was she *really* his sister? I thought his search for his sister was supposed to drag on a bit longer. I'm sure he talks about her in the movie. I don't mind spoilers I just need to know.
I'm not up on the full details of the situation, but I can tell you that no, she was not his real sister. She was a clone. He mentions her-briefly-in the film. Her storyline is resolved in season seven. I can give you more information if you want, but I'm warning you, it's VERY spoilery.

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You know, I get what you mean, and it's not only related to having children. Actually there isn't ONE thing exactly, that you have to do or have for your life to be meaningful. But having children, being successful at what you do, getting married, these are all things that we all expect to achieve. We may say we don't, or that it's not necessary, but the truth is we'll all feel frustrated if we don't get these 3 things done, it feels like failing. And for a woman to know that she can't ever have kids, I can't even imagine how much that hurts One thing is to not have kids because you choose not to, another thing is not being able to do it at all I guess that's what hurts the most, knowing that you don't have a choice about that, it feels like a part of your life has been decided in spite of you
I think that this is mostly true. Even if, in her heart, a woman feels perfectly happy being a single,childless, career gal, she almsot always has those moments when she questions her happiness because of the way our society is composed. Marriage and motherhood are held up as examples of life's greatest joys to women, and to a much smaller degree, men from childhood onwards. Part of this is because, in truth, the majority does find happiness in these things. It's ingrained in us naturally as a species so that we will mate and procreate and keep the human race alive. Now, this is not to say that a person who does not feel the desire for marriage and/or children is unnatural. I'm speaking in general terms for every individual is different. Fact is, with these things pushed on us from such a young age, it is common for one to feel somehow...less if umarried or childless at a certain age. In Scully's case, the matter was made worse because her mother so obviously wanted all her children to have children. Added into her own disappointment was the totally irrational and yet oh-so human fear that she might disappoint her mother in some way and be less loved for not having children. The whole situation was difficult for Scully. Worst of all though,(Agreeing with you,again Ju! ) was that she was unable rather than unwilling to have children. Even if a woman never intends to have children, it's hard not to resent being denied the option by an external force. And for Scully, a woman who wanted children, it is possibly the worst pain of all. I can't imagine what that feels like! I hope I never have first-hand experience.


Oh dear! I hope I didn't annoy anyone! I went on a quite a little speech there! For the record, once again, no disrepect was intended. I realize what a touchy matter this is. I am a woman, and I consider myself a certain kind of feminist. I respect the rights of all individuals to choose or not choose marriage, parenthood, etc. What's right for some in these matters, isn't for others, and that's fine. These are just my views, and I'm open to hearing any others respectfully. This is some of the best discussion I've had in ages!
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There are a few websites. There's The Gossamer Project (contains thousands of stories), Ephemeral (if you want the latest fanfiction and it also has a recomendation system which is sometimes handy), X-Files Fan Fiction Archive |?fugues in the key of x (this site only has a select few but I like that you can download the text file), X-Files 2 Movie Fan Fiction Archive - XFN Network :: (which only hosts fanfiction for the second movie), and a section over at The X-Files: I Want to Believe - Nbr 1 site about The X-Files, David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson. There's also author run sites but there are too many for me to post.
Thank you so much for these links. I have a lot of reading to do!
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I think that this is mostly true. Even if, in her heart, a woman feels perfectly happy being a single,childless, career gal, she almsot always has those moments when she questions her happiness because of the way our society is composed. Marriage and motherhood are held up as examples of life's greatest joys to women, and to a much smaller degree, men from childhood onwards. Part of this is because, in truth, the majority does find happiness in these things. It's ingrained in us naturally as a species so that we will mate and procreate and keep the human race alive. Now, this is not to say that a person who does not feel the desire for marriage and/or children is unnatural. I'm speaking in general terms for every individual is different. Fact is, with these things pushed on us from such a young age, it is common for one to feel somehow...less if umarried or childless at a certain age. In Scully's case, the matter was made worse because her mother so obviously wanted all her children to have children. Added into her own disappointment was the totally irrational and yet oh-so human fear that she might disappoint her mother in some way and be less loved for not having children. The whole situation was difficult for Scully. Worst of all though,(Agreeing with you,again Ju! ) was that she was unable rather than unwilling to have children. Even if a woman never intends to have children, it's hard not to resent being denied the option by an external force. And for Scully, a woman who wanted children, it is possibly the worst pain of all. I can't imagine what that feels like! I hope I never have first-hand experience.
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I know! I think that's my longest MSR post yet! I was waiting for inspiration to strike me so I could make one of my trademark lengthy-posts here, and it came!

You wouldn't believe how good it felt to write all of that too! I love it when I can say something of depth in relation to my series and ships as much as I enjoy the short, lighter posts.

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Hey, I got Lauren and Ju to agree. Cool! And as I'm only a semi-feminist, I'm not offended by what you gals said. I wouldn't be even if I was a fill blown feminist. I understand your explanations and agree. (I liked your long post, Lauren! Good read!) I defnitely get that this is just one of those things where everyone expects it as the norm and who knows - maybe my POV will change in 8-10 years when my biological clock kicks in.
I just know that right now, I cannot imagine having kids and I've felt this way for so long. I wonder if I need some big life-altering change to get my "mommy reflexes" churning. Hey, maybe I'll be abducted and have my eggs harvested!
(Note to self: Freeze a couple of my ova. Probably not in my fridge like Mulder. But if I do meet a guy like Mulder who's willing to keep my reproductive material safe for me, I might give that baby thing a go. *wink wink*!)
You know, when I tried to tell my mom how I felt about not wanting children (about a year ago I believe) she was rather surprised and said I shouldn't say things like that. Of course, she quickly clarified that I'd probably feel differently in a few years and agreed I should concentrate on finishing school, getting a good job, and (oh yeah) maybe *actually dating*. Just a bit of my personal life affecting how I view that scene. And now I'll move on to some MSR.

For those who live in the U.S and/or watch the Sci-Fi channel, it's going to give Arcadia on Monday! I know it's a ways off from my episode watching schedule but since it's a Monster of the Week episode, I'm sure I'll understand what's going on. I can't wait to watch it at 4 pm!

**Sorta random question**: Mr. and Mrs. Petrie or Mr. and Mrs. Spooky?
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You wouldn't believe how good it felt to write all of that too! I love it when I can say something of depth in relation to my series and ships as much as I enjoy the short, lighter posts.
I know, it always amazes me how a tv show and fictional characters can lead to such in depth discussions sometimes it feels like literature to me, you know, like when I was in college, and we would discuss about those poems and novels, and we would interpret every single detail and what it could mean, and then the many interpretations that could come out of that, and it always amazed me how that unreal world made us think about real life itself, how our interpretation of art ended up reflecting the way we'd see that same fact if it were real, you know what I mean?

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You're welcome honey Now I hope you could understand the first part of my post too

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It is indeed

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I know, that's a huge accomplishment for you, huh??

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Just what I said before about how we see fiction the same way we see real life

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**Sorta random question**: Mr. and Mrs. Petrie or Mr. and Mrs. Spooky?
I'll go with Mr. and Mrs. Spooky though I love both names What about you?
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:29 PM
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1) 'Joy to the world / There's our FBI guy and girl / Stuck in a forrest, cuddling and scared / Joy to shippers everywhere!' I loved this episode. The funny lines from Mulder and the sleeping bags comment alone makes the semi-lame monster plotline look great. wo guys get killed by something in the woods. I think Scully's voice is very nice, and it was good that they mentioned the cancer arc, if only briefly. As I said, this episode was wonderful; pure shippy awesomeness: innuendo, a smattering of angst and a hint of fluff when they cuddled in the woods. Detour
Lovely episode with lots of funny banter...very funny opening scene..after the teaser.

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Agent Kinsley: "I couldn't believe how hard it was not to use the word 'but'."
Mulder: "I'm having that same problem right now..."
Got to love a sarcastic Mulder

Semi-lame Hestia?? you are being kind. The monster was absolutely lame. But the episode is all about the shippiness.

It was one of the times when you really wish something x-filey would happen but it doesn't. Remember the time when toads fell from the sky?? Why couldn't sleeping bags fall this time? Probably because there was a mud/tree-monster watching them.

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Mulder: "Go girl! Hey, who did you identify with when you were a kid, Wilma or Betty?"
Scully: "I identified with Betty's bustline."
Mulder: "Yes! I did, too."


I love the painful look mulder has on his face when Scully starts singing. It's hard to say if it was from the injury or because Scully was singing...but then she did warn him

Mulder before Scully starts singing...


Mulder when Scully starts singing..


Christmas Carol and Emily These two episodes, I might be in the minority but I was never a fan of Christmas Carol and Emily except for a few bits. I just didn't get the whole plot why bring in a daughter and then have her killed. It just annoyed me that they wanted to dump another tragedy on Scully, we get it she is tough, give her a break. I know the episode was supposed to explain why they took her ova or what they did with it but I didn't like it. Although Hestia has brought up another X-file...where did Mulder keep the eggs ?? Very good question that

The parts l like ...angsty Scully always good to watch, Mulder being a dad, he was so sweet Also this episode is a set up for a later episode in the season where Scully questions here faith in God.

Hmm.. the show started as " I want to believe" and now it is at "I don't know what to believe"


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4) This is a whole new level of bizarre, up there with the Jose Chung episode, but bizarre in a good way. How can I not love an episode with crazy locals, some MSR dancing, Jerry Springer and Cher? (Alright, a Cher impersonator. ) Scully reading that letter to Mulder in the car set the unbelievable/silly mood for the rest of the episode. Mulder's getting quite a reputation.. As the episode goes on, all I can say is that even though some of it didn't make sense, alot of it made me giggle (Mulder and Scully popping their head out of a hallway, to the diner scene were Mulder gets coffee poured in his lap, to the little scene after Mulder and Scully get knocked unconscious by the gas. ) Really, there are too many little scenes tha I liked, of course the best one being the dance with our favorite pair. I wish we had the color version too but that's my only complaint. (The Post-Modern Prometheus)
But I absolutely love this one..."What's not to love:?? The ending is just pure


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That's cool. They soon question the woman who sent the letter and between her bizarre story involving a frying pan and peanut butter, I almost miss Mulder saying that he's not sure he believes in aliens anymore. Say what? Is this what one of you meant (I think Neel) when you said he begins to question his beliefs? Because this is the oddest episode to make that kind of revelation and believe me, for Mulder that's a big thing
Yes that was me. It's just the beginning..sort of a set up to what's going to come in a later conspiracy episode (Patient X and Red and The Black). This episode is where they introduce to the "I don't believe in aliens anymore Mulder" who is snarky and even more sarcastic if that's possible. This might also answer your next question..

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You know, I just realized that it's been a while since Mulder met his sister in the D3P-Redux, and there's been no mention of it. You all know how Samantha apparently lives with the CSM but know that he's "dead" what happened to her? Was she *really* his sister? I thought his search for his sister was supposed to drag on a bit longer. I'm sure he talks about her in the movie.
This is just my POV but after the last D3P ( I spelled it right this time ) we know that Mulder is at odd with his won beliefs. He is starting to believe that there may have been no aliens just a hoax and then that would mean his sister was not abducted by aliens. I guess just for a while during season 5 and 6 he stops obsessing over his sister and tries to sort out his thoughts and make sense of all this new info. There are a couple episodes that will talk about his family in the next season but anything relating to Samantha will happen in season 7. Hope that made sense.
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Old 05-10-2008, 12:01 AM
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I also love the face he makes when she starts singing.
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Love the pics. They fit to my signature....
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