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Old 04-09-2009, 06:57 PM
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Also Bram who was stood with Alana. Did I dream that I saw him with the 70's Dharma inductee's in Namaste?
I think so cause I kinda remember going that's Owen Rowan (from October Road lol) a couple weeks back. So when I did it again today I was like wait... this has happened before.
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Old 04-09-2009, 07:35 PM
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Awesome episode last night.

Ben was great as usual. I actually felt bad for him. After seeing Alex it put the fear of god in him. I use to find Locke annoying but lately not so much. I liked how he and Ben switched roles. Locke had the answers and Ben was forced to follow.
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:58 PM
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I have one question. When Lapidis got hit what was that question about?

They asked "what lies in the shadow of the statue?" and I didn't understand that question being asked by them, or why they were so desperate to get guns. It occurred to me that maybe they've been on the island before too and somehow found out about the Ajira flight. Why else would they ask such a weird question about the statue?
Paul, my opinion on that question is that it was a code. Ilana and Bram must have come with a whole team of people on the plane. But for security reasons they might not have known who's involved in whatever they're about to pull off. So whoever employed them must have given them a secret question, which if the other person answers correctly, it would mean that he/she is a part of their conspiracy or whatever they are on the island to do. My guess is that they're Charles Widmore's people. It's just like the question Desmond asked of Locke in Season 2 " What did one snowman say to the other?" It was designed to be answered correctly only by Desmond's replacement for the Swan hatch.

As for what is the answer to the question "What lies in the shadow of the statue?", my guess is Jughead.

Where did you see this Bram guy amongst the Dharma inductees? I don't recall.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:17 AM
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Ben/Locke love-hate relationship is the best thing on the show. Glad they went back to that, now just get the rest of the cast away from the Dharma bores and back in present time and I'll try to forget all the boring episodes this season
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:22 AM
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I just saw the episode. It was pretty awesome. That scene with Ben watching Alex get killed all over again had me tearing up. And with his theme playing. Frak it all! I hate this show.

Also, Locke is creeping me out. Hardcore. But I love that he's the HBIC in charge now. And Sun needs something to do other than saying Jin's name every 5 minutes, lol.

And I knew Desmond whooped Ben's little ass. I knew it! <3333
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:33 AM
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Yeah, I really like his theme. In the last episode when Sawyer and Kate have that whole "innocence will be lost" convo with Richard, that theme seemed so appropriate.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:48 AM
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Ben's theme is one of my favorite's on this show. It's very sad and kinda haunting.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:12 AM
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Paul, my opinion on that question is that it was a code. Ilana and Bram must have come with a whole team of people on the plane. But for security reasons they might not have known who's involved in whatever they're about to pull off. So whoever employed them must have given them a secret question, which if the other person answers correctly, it would mean that he/she is a part of their conspiracy or whatever they are on the island to do. My guess is that they're Charles Widmore's people. It's just like the question Desmond asked of Locke in Season 2 " What did one snowman say to the other?" It was designed to be answered correctly only by Desmond's replacement for the Swan hatch.

As for what is the answer to the question "What lies in the shadow of the statue?", my guess is Jughead.

Where did you see this Bram guy amongst the Dharma inductees? I don't recall.
Oh ok, thanks. That makes a lot of sense and is most probably correct. It definitely makes things a lot more clear.

It also explains why they knew that container would be full of guns. Perhaps they brought the guns with them and we already know Charles is trying to get people on the island. Could Sun have told him?

The only other explanation besides Charles is Elouise. She could be making a play of her own too, although maybe the Oceanic 6 was her play since she helped them.

Brad William Henke appears in Namaste (despite being uncredited) and I checked that out on Lostpedia, because I thought I was going nuts. What I can't work out is if I saw him with the crash survivors or with the Dharma people. I could have sworn it was Dharma people, but I need to go back and watch the episode again.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:24 AM
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Could that large container carry a nuke?

Here is Brad William Henke in Namaste. He was with the survivors of Ajira plane on the beach.

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Old 04-10-2009, 01:38 AM
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Could that large container carry a nuke?

Here is Brad William Henke in Namaste. He was with the survivors of Ajira plane on the beach.
Ok well that confirms that then.

I thought the container had the guns and that's what they were going on about. There's already jughead, would there really be another bomb?

Oh and did anyone else think it was awesome how Ben faked Caesar out with his story to get a read on him? It was such a great bluff. He set things up and just knew how it would play out. Like Ben or not, the guy is a genius and a master tactician of battle.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:40 AM
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Well, when Caesar was killed I mentally made a note, "one down, two to go". The two being Illana and Bram, since they're the only prominent ones, I figure.

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Yeah, that was awesome. If there's a war coming, the Losties definitely need Ben. Ironic, huh?
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:47 AM
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I don't think Caesar is dead.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:55 AM
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With Caesar it would take some body armour to save him from a double barrel shotgun at that range. Although if the island has a role for him he'll live I guess.

It will definitely be a little ironic, but Ben is certainly the only battle tactics expert they seem to have. Although if they have the Others too then Richard might count in that area as well.

I think it will come down to this. They will need Richard's wisdom, Ben's tactics, Locke's island connection, Sawyer's cunning/conning and also Jack's inspirational ability to give never say die speeches. It's still always been shown to be Jack's destiny to lead in flashbacks and it's a role that Locke has always wanted him to take on as well, even if he hates it. Really though it will take all those elements for them to win the war. Kate I think will bring peace and balance to the table. I don't think anyone else will be able to keep Jack and Sawyer working together harmoniously, but they will do things for her that they wouldn't for anyone else.
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the episode was creepy. but I LOVEEEEEE IT
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