Lost - Copulators {J&K} #252: "There's More To Come." - D&C - Page 4

**pendragonღ** · 10-02-2007, 09:07 PM

Thanks for the caps!

Gah....the lip look! The whisper! The hand-holding!

That scene is absolutely amazing.

I love how he tries to hold back and the minute her hand goes into his he just holds on to her for dear life.

**Carlie06** · 10-02-2007, 09:11 PM

^ Uh-huh.

Like really. It's so GOOD.

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love how he tries to hold back and the minute her hand goes into his he just holds on to her for dear life.

OMG. I know. How he holds his breath when she gets so close.

**pendragonღ** · 10-02-2007, 09:17 PM

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OMG. I know. How he holds his breath when she gets so close.

And how he has to look down and close his eyes when she touches him. (Just like she did in the FF. Mirroring.

)

And how her back straightens when he whispers in her ear, and she leans into his face.

**Carlie06** · 10-02-2007, 09:27 PM

Uh-huh.

How she stills after getting so close to him like she's just taking it in.

We could go on and on .....

**pendragonღ** · 10-02-2007, 09:35 PM

It's like they were savoring every moment because they had been apart for so long, while still trying to keep up those walls and failing miserably.

What a great scene! You're right. We could spend forever talking about it.

I better get to bed.

What a nice scene I'll be dreaming about now.

Night Carlie!

watchmebleed · 10-02-2007, 10:12 PM

Aww, its such a beautiful scene! You guys got a lot of it covered and well, I babbled on about it in what could be considered a short essay so I won't add anything

franci* · 10-03-2007, 12:50 AM

Welcome to the group Scully_fan!

you wanna be added to the shipper list?!

btw,what an AMAZING post

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I have no worries as to its resolution either since Jack and Kate have always been OTP. Its undeniable tbh. We have all the tells of an OTP. Like the fact that Jack and Kate's relationship is usually only used to further the development of their bond and feelings towards each other, it isn't just used to further the story or inspire the motivations of another character. For example take the first kisses of the quadrangle couples.

Skate kiss in CM: Without doubt this is the episode (in fact scene) which seals Skate as a ship on Lost. Sawyer and Kate share a kiss which serves the purpose of showing that there is something between these two. But also, when Jack learns of this (like literally 2 minutes later) it makes him realise that actually he's jealous, in fact it adds to the jealousy he felt earlier when Kate does not deny that she and Sawyer share a connection. We are seeing that Jack probably feels more than he would like to about Kate. We are also seeing a development in the rivalry between Sawyer and Jack.

Jate Kiss in WKD: No one knows about the kiss except Jack and Kate, not Sawyer, not Juliet, not even the all knowing others, and so in my head the purpose of Kate kissing Jack in this scene was to only further the Jate relationship and how they react to each other in the coming episodes. It has nothing to do with anyone else, it doesn't effect anyone else. Its just Jate.

Jacket Kiss in TTLG: Well this kiss was most certainly not all about the ever blooming relationship that is Jacket! How many times did the camera cut to Kate in this moment? Who's reaction did Jack look for after Juliet kissed him? Not to mention that this is also probably a factor which made Jack decide to tell Kate he loves her.

So you see Jate just seems to be there to show Jate, whereas Skate/Jacket seem to be there to show other things wether it be to further the storyline or just the actions of other characters. If we also take into account the timings of each first kiss after they meet (Skate after a few days, Jacket about 2 weeks, Jate about 2 months) it just feels like the writers are taking more time and care over the Jate relationship. The writers are not forcing Jate to get together after a matter of episodes in cages, its not a ship brought into the middle of the show to make one particular character jealous, its a ship that has been there from the begining. Jate has been the constant and it is slowly, steadily building and growing as the show moves forward, the writers are taking care of this relationship and making it believeable, these imo are signs of an OTP.
Remember also that mostly all OTPs have gimmicks too, themes which recur often in the course of their storyline usually during times of great emotion. Off the top of my head for example Robbie/Cecillia (Atonement) 'Come back to me'. Does Jacket have one? Cheeseburgers, no. Skate? Fishbuiscuits/Strawberries no. Jate the story (1-5), live together die alone, yes. It just all seems to add up to Jate, I can't see any other solution to what we have been shown by the writers and I'm not being delusional! Eventually as we see the story of Lost unfold, we'll see the story of Jate unfold. Skate and Jacket are part of the Jate storyline, they are devices to delay the shows ultimate couple not to end it as we have already seen. I don't think they'll mess up Jack and Kate because Darlton have plans for Kate and someone (as stated in the podcast) its the couple they care about getting together propperly and to me that's not the couple who got together through manipulated cage sex.

ITA with everything,especially the bolded parts.what a beautiful way to put it!

what happens between Jate,stays between Jate.

rmc19945 · 10-03-2007, 04:53 AM

Omg, I had a dream that Kate really was pregnant with Sawyer. I hope not. Nightmareish.

Kate&Jack · 10-03-2007, 05:57 AM

It's outstandingly well structured

I'm speechless

On second thoughts, this interview of Carlton seems very positive to me. That's why i think it would be great to use this line :

Copulators {J&K} : "Who says they have no chance?" - Carlton

KATE ISN'T PREGNANT. THE END!

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Spoiler:

Question: Get to work. I want some Lost scoop. — Donny

Ausiello: They're currently shooting Episode 4, and multiple sources confirm that it's a Kate-centric outing that features flashbacks and/or flash-forwards. Also, two new, potentially recurring characters are being cast as we speak — and both are described as "military types" in their late twenties who follow orders without question.

newbie_Luby · 10-03-2007, 06:14 AM

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KATE ISN'T PREGNANT. THE END!

Maybe the FF we saw in the season finale is a year or more after they leave the Island...
So Kate wasn't pregnant when she left the island. But "now" she could be a mother, and his son is the HE waiting at home ...
If she and Jack had some sort of relationship after the Island, could be Jack's son not Sawyer's... Just thinking

Am I

?

Scully_fan · 10-03-2007, 06:24 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome guys! My name is Roseanne, people call me Ros for short though.

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Welcome Scully_fan!

Like you I'm a Huge Scully fan. I'm so xfiles fan that Scully is my nick over fuse

Awesome!

You have excellent taste!

as X-Files. is. the. best. show. ever!

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Spoiler:

Question: Get to work. I want some Lost scoop. — Donny

Ausiello: They're currently shooting Episode 4, and multiple sources confirm that it's a Kate-centric outing that features flashbacks and/or flash-forwards. Also, two new, potentially recurring characters are being cast as we speak — and both are described as "military types" in their late twenties who follow orders without question.

Spoiler:

Surprise, surprise episode 4 is Kate-centric!

I guess the military guys have something to do with Sam Austin.

They better not be two sides of that new triangle we've been hearing about and it better not involve Kate, unless its in a FB. It could then contrast with her issues on the Island, but I really want a Kate FF.

franci* · 10-03-2007, 06:34 AM

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And Kate really does love Jack.
At least, that's how Sawyer and I are interpreting Kate's tears.
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I feel like she's getting there.
You can see the changes in Kate.
And, you can see her growing and
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That basically has gotten to a level where she's saying,
You know what? You are just as screwed up as I am.
And who are you to be above me?"
and I think once they get past that it could be really amazing.
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Everyone can see it (Shiran)
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Kate&Jack · 10-03-2007, 06:48 AM

Welcome Ros, hi Franci and Luby

All i know, it's that if Kate is trully pregnant, she won't be in total-osmosis with the idea to have a child of a man, which she doesn't love sincerely

I'm in perfect serenity with my ship *zen*

Xinyue · 10-03-2007, 07:12 AM

Hi everyone and welcome Ros

ITA Pauline.

Me too, I'm feeling really peaceful and calm about the next step in our jate journey.

Kate&Jack · 10-03-2007, 07:17 AM

Em

It's me or Juliet isn't quoted in the sentence?

[ The Jack / Kate / Sawyer triangle ] NOT QUADRUANGLE! This little detail means a lot for me. Think about it: Kate certainly has to make a movement towards Jack, a sort of indication which it proves him her true feelings because otherwise Jack would be with Juliet but...DING DONG!

Juliet is out of the picture

Thus for me, Jack and Kate will get more closer, becoming more intimate but a problem, getting Sawyer ( Pregnancy storyline or something else), will inlay some skate scenes (Not romantic

) on the show!