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Old 06-22-2007, 03:43 PM
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Copulators(J&K)#218: The world seems to stop when they meet again

Welcome to the Copulators thread


They have struggled to survive, together.
They have faced the unspeakable, together.
Chance has separated them.
Now, nothing in the world will keep them apart.
~ABC Promo 2007~




"I think, romantically,
her heart’s more with Jack.
That’s my own personal opinion."
~Evangeline Lilly~


My own opinion is that I think that the Jack and Kate thing
will be an over-long, over-arching, long-term thing on the show.
~Matthew Fox~



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You could put Jack and Kate on a
New York City street and have them pass each
other at rush hour on a Wednesday morning.
And they would stop and turn,
slowing to watch each other go by.
They know each other within the context,
of a universal recognition.
They have met before this life.
And they will meet again in another.
~JJ Abrams~


Words of Love


Jack & Kate are...



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2. Evangeline Lilly
3. Josh Holloway
4. J.J. Abrams
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1. Dr. Jack Shephard
2. Kate Austen
3. James 'Sawyer' Ford
4. Charlie Pace
5. Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes
6. Sayid Jarrah
7. John Locke
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9. Ben Linus
10. Juliet Burke
11. Tom "Mr. Friendly"
12. Danielle Rousseau
13. Shannon Rutherford




On the other hand, Jack and Kate are a classical and romantic couple.
They are amazed by each other, and as the time runs,
they start to depend of each other, care about each other,
the connection between them is getting stronger.
There is always something, someone in their way.
That makes the audience support them all the time.
~Damon Lindelof~


















Jack is the guy that she should be with.
She does genuinely love him.
And she knows that he would take excellent care of her.
~Damon Lindelof~

I feel like she’s getting there though.
You can see the changes in Kate.
And, you can see her growing and
developing a confidence around Jack.
That basically has gotten to a level where she’s saying,
You know what? You are just as screwed up as I am.
And who are you to be above me?"
and I think once they get past that it could be really amazing.
~Evangeline Lilly~





Then the more time spent on the island,
the more Jack would sort of represent to Kate
what she would want, stability, and comfort, and a real adult love,
as opposed to that kind of lusty, frothy, "make out in the middle of a torture session" kind of thing
~Damon Lindelof~
They are now emotionally conected more
than they have ever been. If you removed all
the circumstances that are getting in the way of them
being together romantically, I think they could be together at this point.
But there are so many things going on and
so many things requiring their attention and their energy.
It's like two ships constantly passing in the night,
but they really are connected through time and space almost.
~Matthew Fox~




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I loved Jack and Kate’s kiss.
They really captured that moment, how it should be.
And that’s tricky.
~Josh Holloway~

The bond between Jack and Kate
is kind of the ultimate relationship
~Carlton Cuse~



#155: He didn't fix her, they fixed each other
#156 Becuase Jack is her everything
#157: Because he is her lobster.
#158: I can guarantee you that Jack and Kate will connect again.~Foxy
#159: 'But, I will come back here, for you' ~ Jack
#160: So Jack does know the whisper in the ear technique.
#161: Two Words: Hand Holding!
#162: Nothing in the world will keep them apart!
#163: Pooltable+Handcuffs.Mmmh.kinky
164: Team Kate!
#165: "She Loves Jack For Who He Is" -Evie
#166: They will always go back for each other!
#167: Jate closure? Well, it's the FOURTH time this season!
#168: Through Thick And Thin, They Will Always Lean On Each Other !
#169:What she feels for Jack is more pure and right-Evi
#170: She will ALWAYS have his back
#171: Without him, she can't see the sky from the ground -Evi
#172 Because Kate deserves something good - Cassidy
#173 Jate? Straight ahead, turn right at FATE sign
#174: Epic: (n) The relationship of Jack and Kate. See Jate
#175: They Are Spoon-Licking Good!
#176: Unbreakable
#177: We'd cry too if we thought we'd lost Jack
#178: You can't make love to one person when you're in love with another
#179: Kate's longing for Jack is transparent. - TV GUIDE
#180: Caution! Jate maybe closer than it appears
#181:Because her eyes are always wandering to him
#182: We must endure some pain for the greatest of happiness
#183: Free Jack and Kate from season 3!!!
#184: Will Jack and Kate reveal their true feelings? -sky
#185 Quality over quantity
#186: We're dying to see Jack finally steal Kate away from Sawyer-Cosmo
#187: Because everyone is still waiting for the ULTIMATE!
#188: Because his trust in her is about to be restored.
#189 Because Kate wants Jack. IN PRIVATE!
#190 When everyone else turned their backs, SHE still believes in him.
#191:A promise, a look...what will happen this season finale?
#192: "You guys are going to love the finale" ~Gregg
#193: Because it's time for clarifications and declarations.
#194: FINALE FEVER!!!
#195: Good things come to the ones who Jate.
#196: Because they both like blowing people to hell!
#197: Because every finale is OURS!
#198: No Matter How Far Apart, She Will Run Back To Him
#199 In Love and War
#199.1: Kate genuinely loves him.. Jack truly loves her." ~D&C
#199.2: How can I stand here with you & not be moved by you?
#200: I LOVE YOU
#203: He's Willing to Put Everything Behind Because He Loves Her
#204: Because when he says I love you, her looks say it all
#205: A glimpse into the future...and it's Jate!
#206: Their Love Will Save Them All!
#208:Because Jate is canon ON and OFF the island
#209: Jack was made for Kate in this world, and Kate was made for Jack
#210:"You know where..."
#211: She's the only one who can fix his wounds and heal his heart
#212: Team Jate!
#213 Love is reaching for someone's hand and holding their heart
#214: What does Kate know about Jack? She knows his heart
Copulators (J&K) #215: The best is yet to come...
#216 Because Jack didn't let go, even though she wanted to run
#217: Never Underestimate Fate


I don’t think that book is closed.
Kate has a real journey to go on with Jack
in that they’ve never addressed the
underlying current of attraction and love between them.
It has to be addressed.
~Evangeline Lilly~



Because they're trapped in their own little, magic world (by beloved)
They are perfect for each other becuase they are everything the other isn't (by beloved)
Jack's her future. Everyone can see that (by Shiran)
It'll be the greatest love each of them has ever experienced (by Shiran)
She steals his heart and he takes her breath away (by Tia)
They're always saving each other from themselves (by Tia)
His love makes her see who she really is at heart (by Tia)
It's more than just physical, deeper than spiritual (by jabs)
He makes her weak with desire (by jabs)
Two Halves of a Whole (by franci)
He's her sanity (by jabs)
They can't let this love get away from them (by Tia)
Because even if she runs, she's waiting for him to catch her (by MadisonL)
Simply the best, better than all the rest (jabs)
He's the one who sets her free (jabs)
Love covers over a multitude of sins. (Franci)
Because they have what it takes (franci)
Because Jack has the bigger 'boat' (Liesbeth)
Everyone can hit a ball. But that's not GOLF (Carla)
Their love and connection is beyond circumstances
Don't underestimate what they're willing to do for each other (all of those by jabs)
It can't be a closure when none of them wants it to end (Shiran)
Because Jate OWN. (christine)
Two completely different people, one unifying soul (Diana)
Love makes you do stupid things. (Diana)
Jack and Kate: Abrams' Masterpiece! (Anji, inspired by Giuly)
She had dreams of raising a family of wee doctors and fugitives. (Katie)
Sometimes you've to lose somebody so you can figure out what they really mean to you
You don't know what you got till it's gone (Liesbeth)
What does Kate know about Jack? She knows his heart. (Diana)
Once you own a heart, you always will (AlexandraMavier)
Because he doesn't treat her like a sextoy
He treats her as his equal (both by Shiran)
They can live with other people but they can't live without each other (Ale)
Always, All Ways (Diana)
The show isn't over because Jate isn't together (Jenna16)
Because there is no way that those looks can ever fail us (dancer150)
Jate VS Crappy Future (franci*)
We'll Rewrite History Together (franci*)
Best.Team.Ever (franci*)
It's THEIR story (Liesbeth)
Because he's her yin and she's his yang (Nora)
Because he loves her unconditionally (Nora)
Because she is the one person he needs to survive (Nora)
He's her Knight in Shining Whatever (Diana)
They are intoxicated by the sight of each other (Lovey)
Our Secret Place..
Jack and Kate both can show each other just how much they are worth (Ash)
He needs to risk actively loving Kate by moving toward her unconditional love with the same. (Laklost at Sledgeweb)
Jack spent the finale with his beloved Kate at his side




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Old 06-22-2007, 03:44 PM
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You're welcome!

I like the title cause it applies to a lot of scenes: the hydra, the piano/gameroom scenes in TMFT, and then the FF scene in TTLG.

So let me tell you how to start a thread: you go to the first post w/ all the stuff on it and click "reply with quote" then you copy that info and past it into a new thread (click "post new thread" button). Make sure to erase the quote tags at the beginning and end. Then you copy the address of the current thread (so for this one I copied 217) and paste it under the rest of the "previous threads" in a url tag. That part isn't as important as the initial moving all info to the new thread. As long as you do that and remove the quote tags, then put the title in, its ready to go!
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New thread! thanks Diana!
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No prob, always a pleasure

Was listening to this song and thought its a good one from Kate's perspective:

Naked - Avril Lavigne

I wake up in the morning
Put on my face
The one that's gonna get me
Through another day
Doesn't really matter
How I feel inside
This life is like a game sometimes

Then you came around me
The walls just disappeared
Nothing to surround me
Keep me from my fears
I'm unprotected
See how I've opened up
Oh, you've made me trust

'Cause I've never felt like this before
I'm naked
Around you
Does it show?
You see right through me
And I can't hide
I'm naked around you
And it feels so right

Yeah, yeh

I'm trying to remember
Why I was afraid
To be myself
And let the covers fall away
Guess I never had
Someone like you
(To help me) To help me fit
In my skin

I've never felt like this before
I'm naked
Around you
Does it show?
You see right through me
And I can't hide
I'm naked
Around you
And it feels so right

I'm naked
Oh, oh yeah
Does it show?
Yeah, I'm naked
Oh, ooh, oh
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
Oh, ooh, oh
I'm naked around you
Does it show?

I'm so naked around you
And I can't hide
You're gonna, you're gonna see right through
(You see right through me and I can't hide)
You're gonna see right through (I'm naked around you)
Oh yeah

I'm so naked around you
And I can't hide
You're gonna see right through baby
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new thread! Thanks Diana! That song is so Jate It's like only he can see who she truly is - she can let her guard down around him, and he doesn't judge her one bit.
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Hey everyone! Man, this thread is quiet. Well, I'm finally back from my trip and my main internet connection is down. I miss talking to you guys! I'm still going to try to hop on the thread some though until it gets fixed.

So what has been going on? Nothing much I suspect since we're only one month into the hiatus.

Diana, that is a perfect Kate song.

Since I've been absolutely addicted to Maroon 5 lately I found another song for Future!Jate. I imagine this song applies to the situation between Jack and Kate in the FF because it's obvious that there was something going on between them before they were forced apart. And since they can't be together for whatever reason they'll still be there when the time comes when they find their way back.

Maroon 5 - Sweetest Goodbye

Where you are seems to be
As far as an eternity
Outstretched arms open hearts
And if it never ends then when do we start?
I’ll never leave you behind
Or treat you unkind
I know you understand
And with a tear in my eye
Give me the sweetest goodbye
That I ever did receive

Pushing forward and arching back
Bring me closer to heart attack
Say goodbye and just fly away
When you comeback
I have some things to say

How does it feel to know you never have to be alone
When you get home
There must be someplace here that only you and I could go
So I can show you how I...

Dream away everyday
Try so hard to disregard
The rhythm of the rain that drops
And coincides with the beating of my heart
(I love this line. Brilliant, just brilliant.)

I’ll never leave you behind
Or treat you unkind
I know you understand
And with a tear in my eye
Give me the sweetest goodbye
That I ever did receive

Pushing forward and arching back
Bring me closer to heart attack
Say goodbye and just fly away
When you comeback
I have some things to say

How does it feel to know you never have to be alone
When you get home
There must be someplace here that only you and I could go
So I can show you how I feel


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Hi Ash!

Aw, great song!

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It's like only he can see who she truly is - she can let her guard down around him, and he doesn't judge her one bit.
I still can not understand to this day why some people say Jack doesn't accept Kate for who she is, especially from Evie for God sakes! WTF show was she talking about? Jack has never EVER deliberately tried to "change" Kate. He's been disappointed in her actions before, but he's never told her he didn't like the person she is. And a good, healthy relationship should inspire growth. It would horrible for him to be like "Oh, you're a criminal and that's all you'll ever be, but I still love you" WTF? Um, no. That's NOT beneficial for anybody. So yeah, that one still stumps me.
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ITA. I think they both inspire each other to grow. Jack is so serious and Kate helps inspires him to lighten up a little and enjoy life more. It's no wonder they are the canon of the show. They really do balance each other in all ways. That's why the FF was so off. They didn't balance at all. I can't wait to see that change.
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Originally Posted by watchmebleed (View Post)
So let me tell you how to start a thread: you go to the first post w/ all the stuff on it and click "reply with quote" then you copy that info and past it into a new thread (click "post new thread" button). Make sure to erase the quote tags at the beginning and end. Then you copy the address of the current thread (so for this one I copied 217) and paste it under the rest of the "previous threads" in a url tag. That part isn't as important as the initial moving all info to the new thread. As long as you do that and remove the quote tags, then put the title in, its ready to go!
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He's been disappointed in her actions before, but he's never told her he didn't like the person she is. And a good, healthy relationship should inspire growth.
Exactly. Jack doesn't take crap from her. He has never let her get away with stuff. Her "fugitive" tendencies never worked with him. Like the WTCMB episode. That was such an angsty episode for them. Because 1. Kate was playing Jack trying to get the plane.2. Jack caught her and didn't let her get away with it. It would've worked with anyone had it not been Jack. They inspire each other to be better people. And like Ash said, it's BOTH not just Jack inspiring Kate. Kate has always been with him every step of the way to let him know he doesn't have to do it alone. She is the only one who truly takes care of him. They just so beautiful and I mean that not in a physical sense(but they are but emotionally. Two kindred souls that when they FULLY connect. They're going to be complete.
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Yes, exactly you guys! The ying and the yang They are two halves of a whole!! That's why they are never truly complete/happy without the other. Which is WHY they should have kept the Moth scene where Kate tells she felt like a goose just walked over her grave after the cave in just happened.

And its great that neither of them let each other get away with crap. Jack called out Kate on the briefcase thing and she made him talk to her in THP and she owned up to her transgression and apologized. I think that was a big thing for her and it probably wouldn't have happened if what occured in WTCMB never happened.
It's interesting that this season showcased their biggest issues and showed them doing the opposite because of/for each other. Jack let Kate go both in I Do/NIP and perhaps also in TTLG in a way w/ the ILY scene. And Kate didn't want to run for once when Jack wanted her to, and even though she did, she ran right back for him.
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I love the connection between these two!! Those are such great points guys! I can't wait to see where they're going to go in season 4. I think they've finally realized that they have to have each other to be complete.

I love what you said Carlie about Kate being the only one to take care of Jack. It's so true. He's always taking care of other people and looking out for them. That's constantly what he did with Sarah but she didn't return the favor. She really turned all his care against him...but that's another can of worms. Sarah is not on my good side. Kate on the other hand realizes Jack needs someone to care for him just as much as he cares for others. She knows him like that. I love in ATBCHDI where she calls him on his crap. She's trying to get him to talk to her and he won't stop because he wants to find Charlie. Then she says "Stop it." And he says, "What?" Kate: "That." And he knew right then and there what she was talking about.
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!!!! I love that scene! It totally shows how they know each other so well. It's hard to describe really, but it's almost like they can read each other so well, that they are especially perceptive to each other's thoughts and feelings. Although I think we were all surprised when Jack said ILY - Kate especially. It was kind of out of the blue, but it was sort of his (well, not-so)subtle way of telling her that the "kiss" she was gawking at () was nothing compared to what he felt/feels for her.
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