Lost - Copulators (J&K)#168: Through Thick And Thin, They Will Always Lean On Each Other

rmc19945 · 04-08-2007, 10:07 PM

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Jack/Kate Related Quotes:

Matthew Fox:

~Matthew Fox: Acting is ultimately, like a dance, and takes two people. When it works well, it requires both people to be participating, sort of "feeling the other person out", through the process. It’s something you need to be conscious of, that you have to be, connected.” (Lost Magazine, on his on-screen chemistry with Evi, portraying Jack and Kate)
Matthew Fox: I think, there is a huge, unknowable, draw for Jack to Kate. At the same time, it’s there, and there’s a real, internal, within him, and between, the two of them. (Lost Magazine, on how Jack's drawn to Kate)
~Matthew Fox: I think, that these two people have reached a point, where they are more accepting, of who the other person is. When that happens, then there is a really deep attraction, not just physically, but emotionally, a need. And, getting to be more accepting, of each other’s shortcomings leaves that desire, which has always been there. And, if anything, has only been growing for an emotional connection, and leaves it more open, for that to happen. Right now is the closest they, have ever been. (Lost Magazine)
~Matthew Fox: They are now emotinally conected more then they have ever been. If you removed all the circumstances that are getting in the way of them beeing together romantically. I think they could be together at this point. But there are so manny things going on and so many things recuiring their attention and their energy, it like two ships constanely passing in the night, but they really are connected trought time and space almost.
~Interviewer: Do you think, Jack and Kate will ever, act on their mutual attraction?
Matthew Fox: I think, that’s definitely where the show’s, heading. But, they’re obviously attracted to each other. And, they can’t get over it. It’s something we’ll get to, when the show ends.
~Matthew Fox: My own opinion is, that I think, that the Jack and Kate thing, will be, an over-long, over-arching, long-term, thing on the show. I think, a lot of fans, want to see that happen. So, um, you know, they’ll probably, you know, they’re two people, that are obviously, very drawn to each other. And, they’ll come and flow, until they finally, end up together, at some point.
~Matthew Fox: He’s clearly attracted to her, but, doesn’t want to be, on some level. (Ellen, 2006, on Jack's feelings for Kate)
~Interviewer: Who’s Kate going to pick: Jack or Sawyer?
Matthew Fox: All I’ll say is she’s going to make her choice. It gets resolved. Not because she decides. But because of circumstances, that are out of her control. In fact, it won’t leave it that resolved in the end at all, really. (2006, in response to Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in S3)
~Robert Iger: There’s a lot of intrigue already about your relationship. Do you two end up together maybe a little bit...from that angle.
Matthew Fox: I think, eventually that probably happens. And, because of the circumstances of the show, this fall, and where they find themselves, it seems that the Kate and Sawyer story is sort of gonna continue. But I think, in the end, it’ll be the Jack and Kate thing.
~Interviewer: Why Kate went for Sawyer, instead of Jack...
Matthew Fox: That choice was made out of necessity. They were caged together. And Jack was in solitary. But, I can guarantee you that Jack and Kate will connect again. (Woman Celebrity Magazine, 2007, in response to Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in S3)

Evangeline Lilly:

~Interviewer: What have been your personal highlights, of this season?
Evangeline Lilly: This season, it’s probably a much, simpler moment. When Kate told Jack, "I’m sorry for kissing you." (Lost Magazine, 2006)
~Evangeline Lilly: He’s become attracted. (Lost Magazine, on how Jack feels about Kate)
~Evangeline: I feel like she’s getting there though. You can see the changes in Kate. And, you can see her growing and developing a confidence around Jack. That basically has gotten to a level where she’s saying, You know what? You are just as screwed up, as I am. And, who are you, to be above me?", and I think once they get past that it could be really amazing.
~Interviewer: Do you think Kate will be pissed, or upset if she finds out about, what happened between, Sawyer and Ana Lucia?
Evangeline Lilly: I think Kate is not invested enough in the romance with Sawyer. I’m not convinced that she is there, romantically. I think, romantically, her heart’s more with Jack. That’s my own personal opinion.
Interviewer: I always think so too, because opposites attract.
Evangeline Lilly: I agree. I think, that there’s something about Sawyer, that’s so much like her. That her love for him is almost like a sibling. You know, like a brother. (E! Online)
~Interviewer: Are we going to see resolution to your love-hate triangle, with Jack and Sawyer, this season?
Evangeline Lilly: I don’t know if you can say resolution, because that would mean it’s permanent. But there is some sort of a temporary conclusion, because I do end up with someone. (Philippine Daily Inquirer, 2006, in response to Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in S3)
~Evangeline: Let’s just say, Kate hasn’t given up on her other beau. (E! News, 2007, in response to the Jack/Kate romance, after her 'choosing' Sawyer in S3)
~Question: Will Kate and Sawyer, be a happy couple?
Evangeline Lilly: Well, we have a, con-artist, and a convict. So, I don’t know, if happily ever after, is really in the cards, for those two. But, I, you know, I’ve told, and teased before, that Kate, hasn’t just, let go of Jack. She hasn’t just, left him in the dusk. And, thought, well, this is it, it’s me and Sawyer. She’s obviously, conflicted. And, so, we’re going to see that, play out, especially in the first five episodes, back. That conflict between, which man, her loyalties lie with. (American Online, 2007)
~Evangeline Lilly: I don’t think, that book is, closed, at all, says Lilly. Kate has a real journey, to go on, with Jack, in that, they’ve never addressed the underlying current, of attraction and love, between them. It has, to be addressed. (Entertainment Weekly, 2007, in response to the Jack/Kate romance)
Evangeline Lilly: She may have fornicated, the relationship with Sawyer, but I don’t think that negates the fact that she has certain feelings for Jack. And I think you’re gonna see, in this episode that Kate is very determined still as she was last week to go back and rescue Jack. (Good Morning America, 2007, in response to Kate's feelings for Jack)

The Writers/Creative Team:

~J.J. Abrams: You could put, Jack and Kate on a, New York City street, and have them pass each other, at rush hour, on a Wednesday morning. And, they would stop, and turn, slowing to watch each other go by. They know each other within the context, of a universal recognition. They have met before, this life. And, they will meet again, in another.
~Damon Lindelof: The original plan in season one was, to definitely get them, together. Then the more time spent on the island, the more Jack would sort of represent to Kate what she would want, stability, and comfort, and a real adult love, as opposed to that kind of lusty, frothy, "make out in the middle of a torture session" kind of thing. (Online Interview, 2006, in reponse to the Jack/Kate romance happening over time)
~Damon Lindelof: On the other hand, Jack and Kate are a classical and romantic couple. They are amazed by each other, and as the time runs, they start to depend of each other, care about each other, the connection between them is getting stronger. There is always something, someone in their way. That makes the audience support them all the time.
~Damon Lindelof: They also want Jake and Kate, to get together. (in repsonse to what the audience wants)
~Damon Lindelof: He may have won the battle for her affections. But he ain’t won the war. (Online Interview, 2006, in response to, Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in S3)
~Carlton Cuse: It would be a bad assumption to assume the triangle was over., warns Carlton Cuse. For that moment in time, Sawyer was the right choice. But that’s not the end of it by any means whatsoever. (TV Guide Online, 2007)
~Carlton Cuse: Nevertheless, says executive producer, Carlton Cuse, the bond between Kate and Jack is the kind of ultimate relationship. (TV Guide, 2007)
~Damon Lindelof: Jack is the guy that she should be with. She does genuinely love him. And she knows that he would take excellent care of her. (Lost Survival Guide, 2007)
~Damon Lindelof: Nothing sort of, reactivates a romantic interest, than you know, a romantic rival. (E! Online, 2007, in response to Juliet entering the equation and making the Jack/Kate/Sawyer triangle a square, and how it will affect the Jack/Kate romance)
~Kristin Veitch: Kate loves Jack?
Damon Lindelof/Carlton Cuse: True. (E! Online, 2007)
~Gregg Nations: From what was written, in the script, I think it’s clear that Sawyer correctly guessed that Kate did sleep with him because he was going to die. (Fuselage Online, 2007, in response to Sawyer/Kate having sex in S3)

The Lost Cast:

~Danielle Hine: So, with the whole, Jack verses Sawyer thing, if you were a lady, who would you go for?
Josh Holloway: Man, that’s a hard one, to answer. Let me, think. I think Jack’s, a keeper. And, Sawyer’s a, fun weekend.
~Interviewer: What have been your, personal highlights, of this season?
Josh Holloway: I loved, Jack and Kate’s kiss. They really, captured that moment, how it should be. And, that’s tricky. (Lost magazine, 2006)
~Josh Holloway: Sawyer will always screw it up, because he’s, Sawyer. I can pretty much determine that, I ain’t gonna get her. (Lost Magazine, in response to why Sawyer/Kate won't last)
~Question: Will Kate and Sawyer, be a happy couple?
Josh Holloway: Of course not. No. I don’t know. I’m sure, Sawyer’s gonna ruin it, right away. But, being, knowing, Sawyer, he’s definitely going to ruin it, somehow. They’ll be something, he’ll do. I don’t know when, but, it’ll be quick. (American Online, 2007)
~Interviewer: So, you and Kate, hooked up on the show?
Josh Holloway: It was the old "I’m gonna die." story so, Kate, would make out, with me. It took all that, just to get some, sympathy love. (Cosmopolitan, 2007)
~Josh Holloway: I’ve said, this before, Sawyer’s a good time, on the weekend. Jack’s, a keeper. But, more than likely, he’ll be an ass, and ruin it. (2007, in response to how Sawyer/Kate won't last)

Media/Other:

~Jimmy Kimmel: I think it’s gotta be Sawyer. Because everyone wants it to be, Jack. (Jimmy Kimmel, 2006, in response to which guy Kate would 'choose' in S3)
~Michael Ausiello: Don’t be too sure about Kate’s decision to choose Sawyer over Jack. A girl can change her mind. (TV Guide Online, 2006, in response to, Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in S3)
~Michael Canfield: Kate doesn’t love Sawyer. She may, or may not, have admitted it to herself yet, but Kate loves Jack.(Online Interview, 2006)
~Kristin Veitch:Kate is really in love with Jack! Think about it. She never answered Sawyer when he asked if she really loved him. She never said the magic "L" word. As far as "choices" go, I’d say a passionate presumed pre-death romp is not exactly proof that you’ve found your soul mate. (E! Online, 2006, Lost "I Do" Review)
~Jack: I see, I do think, she cares, I think, she truly loves, Jack. You can see it, in her face, from the start, when she, sewed him up. It was almost like, a husband and wife thing. He cared about her, and didn’t want her, getting hurt. But, he truly, like you can see, you can see, when they came into the glass, you can see it, in their faces.
Jay: There was, something,
Jack: They, love each other. And, Sawyer cares about her, but I don’t see it, lasting.
Jay: My pick is, Jack and Kate, as well. ‘Cause, in the end, I think, they’re gonna, be together. I just think, it’s, one of those things, in a TV show. That’s, what’s gonna be, the ending. (ABC.com, 2007, Lost "I Do" Podcast)
~Kristin Veitch: You see that Kate does have very strong feelings for Jack. And they’re sorta kinda displayed in front of Sawyer. (E! Online, 2007)
~Question: I have enjoyed Lost, from the beginning. But, I can’t believe with the chemistry, and history, Jack and Kate have that you would put Kate and Sawyer together. Please make us romantics happy, by putting Jack and Kate together.
Interviewer: As Eko himself, has said, "Don’t mistake coincidence for fate." (Lost Magazine, 2007)
~Sabrina Rojas Weiss: And, Kate really does, love Jack. At least, that’s how, Sawyer and I are interpreting Kate’s tears. Man, ABC shows do know how, to turn surgery tales into, the best love poems! (TV Guide Online, 2007, Lost "Not in Portland" Review)
~Kevin Williamson: Matthew Fox and Evangeline Lilly on Lost: As Jack and Kate, he is the doctor, compelled to fix everyone around him, while she is the fugitive, who has long since been broken. This season has seen Kate, seemingly pair off with bad boy, Sawyer. But, don’t expect that to endure. The Hollywood love triangle is governed by simple logic: The girl doesn’t end up with the guy she hooks up with, midway through the story. The final romantic outcome, is always saved for a (hoped for), emotional climax. (Calgary Sun, 2007)
~Narrator: They have, struggled to survive, together. They have, faced the unspeakable, together. Chance, has separated, them. Nothing in the world, will keep them, apart. (ABC Promo, 2007, in reference to the Jack/Kate romance and second reunion in "The Man from Tallahassee")
~Sabrina Rojas Weiss: But every scene between Kate and Jack made me forget about those silly details, too. Heart-rending looks, the unspoken accusation about Kate’s night with Sawyer and Jack’s last whisper in her ear about coming back for her. Sure, it’s kinda the stuff of romantic novels. But I got shivers just the same. And, I enjoyed the jealous look on, Juliet’s face, too. (TV Guide Online, 2007, Lost "The Man from Tallahassee" Review)
~Interviewer: Alright, the scene between Jack and Kate, where to begin? First off, if you didn’t love this scene, you probably also kill puppies, for fun. Awesome scene on just about, every level; it had a little mystery, a little romance, a little of everything, phenomenal, just a great scene. (TMZ.com, 2007, Lost "The Man from Tallahassee" Review)
~Kristin Veitch: Kate and Juliet fight over Jack, in the jungle. And, just to calm down those of who flew through the roof because I didn’t mention the Jack and Kate mushiness last week (yes, it was good), let me just say, that in my personal opinion, not as a "journalist" but as a fan, I hope Kate takes Juliet down in a blaze of glory. (E! Online, 2007)

Fanart of the Thread

*Made by LostforJate*

#155: He didn't fix her, they fixed each other
#156 Becuase Jack is her everything
#157: Because he is her lobster.
#158: I can guarantee you that Jack and Kate will connect again.~Foxy
#159: 'But, I will come back here, for you' ~ Jack
#160: So Jack does know the whisper in the ear technique.
#161: Two Words: Hand Holding!
#162: Nothing in the world will keep them apart!
#163: Pooltable+Handcuffs.Mmmh.kinky
164: Team Kate!
#165: "She Loves Jack For Who He Is" -Evie
#166: They will always go back for each other!
#167: Jate closure? Well, it's the FOURTH time this season!

Because they're trapped in their own little, magic world (by beloved)
They are perfect for each other becuase they are everything the other isn't (by beloved)
Jack's her future. Everyone can see that (by Shiran)
It'll be the greatest love each of them has ever experienced (by Shiran)
She steals his heart and he takes her breath away (by Tia)
They're always saving each other from themselves (by Tia)
His love makes her see who she really is at heart (by Tia)
It's more than just physical, deeper than spiritual (by jabs)
He makes her weak with desire (by jabs)
Two Halves of a Whole (by franci)
He's her sanity (by jabs)
His life with her means everything, so he won't give up so easily (by Tia)
They can't let this love get away from them (by Tia)
Because even if she runs, she's waiting for him to catch her (by MadisonL)
Simply the best, better than all the rest (jabs)
He's the one who sets her free (jabs)
Love covers over a multitude of sins. (Franci)
Because they have what it takes (franci)
Because Jack has the bigger 'boat' (Liesbeth)
Everyone can hit a ball. But that's not GOLF (Carla)
Their love and connection is beyond circumstances
Don't underestimate what they're willing to do for each other (all of those by jabs)
It can't be a closure when none of them wants it to end (Shiran)
Because Jate OWN. (christine)
Two completely different people, one unifying soul (Diana)
Love makes you do stupid things. (Diana)
Jack and Kate: Abrams' Masterpiece! (Anji, inspired by Giuly)
She had dreams of raising a family of wee doctors and fugitives. (Katie)
Sitting on it was the wrong use of that pool table. (Shiran)
Jate? Straight ahead, turn right at FATE sign. (Franci)
Caution. Jate may be closer than it appears (Franci)
Because she knows he's a good kisser.
Sometimes you've to lose somebody so you can figure out what they really mean to you
You don't know what you got till it's gone (all of those by Liesbeth)
What does Kate know about Jack? She knows his heart. (Diana)
What goes around, comes around or maybe
Once you own a heart, you always will (both by AlexandraMavier)
Because Kate deserves something good ~Cassidy (Franci)

CREDITS
Head banners by: Iola
Copulators, quotes and suggestions banners by: Whatsername
Fanfiction, fansites, soundtracks, reasons and previous threads banners by: Shiran
Music videos and memories banners by: Katie
Title by: Katie
And last but not least - live it, love it, memorize it. THE promo.

**Ash_lost** · 04-08-2007, 10:10 PM

New thread! Thanks Rosie!

rmc19945 · 04-08-2007, 10:13 PM

No problem!

watchmebleed · 04-08-2007, 10:18 PM

Thanks for starting us off Rosie!

btw I love watching your icon!

Ronnie, I know exactly how you feel about the procrastination! It's so hard to focus on school stuff when we've got lots of beautiful Jate to focus on instead!

rmc19945 · 04-08-2007, 10:24 PM

No problem! Isn't that icon amazing? I definitely didn't make it.

ronniekins77 · 04-08-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by watchmebleed (View Post)

Ronnie, I know exactly how you feel about the procrastination! It's so hard to focus on school stuff when we've got lots of beautiful Jate to focus on instead!

Yea, it's pretty rough. I'm doing a research paper and it's tough even though I chose the topic because a) my topic is a disease, so there's lots of medical jargon that's hard to understand and b) my friend died from this disease so it's bringing up a lot of memories.

If only I could just discuss Jate all day long, LOL. And btw, I agree with your take on Jack's and Kate's ages in the last thread. 10 years really isn't THAT much of an age difference, especially when their spirits are so kindred.

watchmebleed · 04-08-2007, 10:30 PM

Aww, I'm sorry to hear about your friend hun.

Good luck on the paper! Let us know if we can help in anyway!

Jaters have to stick together! (Or "lean on each other" if you will

)

Wouldn't it be AWESOME if there was a Jate/Lost CLASS?!

I would ACE that sucker!!

You know what though? Maybe I'm just weird but the age difference thing makes it hotter for me!

I guess I just like older men!

Jlaigle · 04-08-2007, 10:31 PM

Wow! They're ten years apart? I didn't know that. They don't seem like it at all. 10 years really isn't a big deal....their maturity levels are pretty much the same and that's all that really counts

**Ash_lost** · 04-08-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by watchmebleed (View Post)

You know what though? Maybe I'm just weird but the age difference thing makes it hotter for me!

I guess I just like older men!

That's not weird at all Diana. In fact, I think I agree.

watchmebleed · 04-08-2007, 10:38 PM

Good! Glad I'm not alone!

Hey Jlaigle!

Don't see you around these parts often! Have you been added to the list?!

If not, would you like to be?! Either way, don't be a stranger!
(that sentence was kind of weird no? I sound like I'm interviewing her!

)

franci* · 04-08-2007, 11:53 PM

Hey Coppies

NEW THREAD! yayz!

thanks for starting it Rosie

Jlaigle! are you new around here?!

Jlaigle · 04-08-2007, 11:59 PM

Hey! Yeah...I just signed up a few days ago...trying to make my way around a bunch of threads to see where I'm comfortable. I would love to be added to the list! I've always been a Lost fan....but just recently made up my mind on the whole Kate/Jack/Sawyer craziness...lol

watchmebleed · 04-09-2007, 12:15 AM

Aww...that's so awesome! I'm glad you made the "right" choice!

*giggles* Well welcome!

Rosie will add you when she comes back around!

Hey Franci!

Okay, I'm annoyed, I think I had something to say and I can't remember it now!

innocent_chick · 04-09-2007, 12:19 AM

Thanks for the new thread!
Hi guys! i've forgotten some of your names again...

welcome Jlaigle!

hmm..i never though about Jack/Kate's ages..i'll catch up from the last thread now

Cathangel · 04-09-2007, 12:23 AM

I don't know if this has been said already, but Kristin from E!Online has already uploaded her new Vine show focused on her visit to the set of Lost. Nothing related to Jate, Skate or Jacket and nothing really new, so it's up to you if you want to check it out anyway. I'm waiting for her weekly spoiler chat to get the good stuff and Christ, even Ausiello does a better job of getting spoilers than her.

So I'm actually really waiting for Wednesday.

Hi Jaclyn!

I see that you've also found this thread. Fan Forum has a really neat group of Jaters, doesn't it?

edit: The age difference between Jack and Kate is actually really hot. Girls in general tend to go for older men because men are actually 3 years younger in maturity than girls of their own age.