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Copulators (J&K) #154: Genuine,deep,REAL.that's the LOVE they share.

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Honorary members

1. Matthew Fox
2. Evangeline Lilly
3. Josh Holloway
4. J.J. Abrams
5. Gregg Nations
6. Damon Lindelof
7. Michael Ausiello
8. Kristin Veitch
9. Michael Canfield
10. Jimmy Kimmel
11. Ellen Degeneres
12. Saturday Night Live Writers
13. Chris Carabott

Jaters on the Island
1. Jack Shephard
2. Kate Austen
3. James 'Sawyer' Ford
4. Charlie Pace
5. Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes
6. Ana-Lucia Cortez
7. Ben Linus/Henry Gale
8. Juliet Burke
9. Tom







Favorite J/K related quotes
Matthew Fox:

~Josh Holloway: You’re going to get her [Kate], in the end.
Matthew Foxy: You know, I will. We all knew that from, day one. (Museum of Television, 2005, Season one DVD extras)
~Matthew Fox: “This is my personal opinion but I think that is Jack and Kate are this over-arching, longterm thing on the show.
~ Matthew: You realize he (Jack) cares for her so freakin' much- more than he wants to.
~ Matthew Fox: Yeah, I think that these two people have reached a point where they are more accepting of who the other person is. When that happens, then there is a really deep attraction, not just physically, but emotionally - a need.
~Matthew Fox: They are now emotinally conected more then they have ever been. If you removed all the circumstances that are getting in the way of them beeing together romantically. I think they could be together at this point. But there are so manny things going on and so many things recuiring their attention and their energy, it like two ships constanely passing in the night, but they really are connected trought time and space almost.
~Foxy on Kate's 'choice' "It gets resolved. Not, because she decides. But, because of circumstances, that are out of her, control. In fact, it won’t leave it that resolved in the end, at all really. "
~Matthew: "Because of the circomstances of the show this fall and where they find themselves it SEEMS like the Kate and Sawyer story is sorta gonna continue but I think in the end it's gonna be the Jack and Kate thing."
~Jeff Jensen: What’s your take on the fabled, Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle?
Matthew Fox: Honestly, and I don’t know, exactly how this will sound. The honest truth is that, I don’t think of it as, Jack, Kate and, Sawyer. I think of it as, Jack and Kate. The Sawyer element of it, I don’t even consider a reality.
~Matthew Fox: They’re drawn to each other, in a really intense way. (E! Online, in response to the Jack/Kate relationship)
~Matthew Fox: I have a feeling, that in the near term, it’ll be Sawyer and Kate. And, in the long term, it’ll be Jack and Kate. (Entertainment Weekly, 2005)
~Matthew Fox: He’s clearly uh, attracted to her, but, doesn’t want to be, on some level. (Ellen, 2006, in response to why Jack's so hard on Kate, and how he truly feels about her)

Evangeline Lilly:

~Evangeline(about a Jack & Kate romance): It will happen. Just wait for it - it will happen.
~Evangeline:I feel like she’s getting there, though. You can see the changes in Kate and you can see her growing and developing a confidence around Jack that basically has gotten to a level where she’s saying ‘You know what, you are just as screwed up as I am, and who are you to be above me?’ and I think once they get past that, it could be really amazing.
~Evangeline: “Let’s just say Kate hasn’t given up on her other beau”
~Question: Will Kate and Sawyer, be a happy couple?
Evangeline Lilly: Well, we have a-a, con-artist, and a convict. So, I don’t know, if happily ever after, is really in the cards, for those two. But, um, I, you know, I’ve told, and teased before, that Kate, hasn’t just, let go of Jack. She hasn’t just, left him in the dusk. And, thought, well, this is it, it’s me and Sawyer. She’s obviously, conflicted. And, um, so, we’re going to see that, play out, especially in the first five episodes back. That conflict between, which man, her loyalties lie with. (American Online Interview, 2007)
~Evangeline Lilly: I don’t think, that book [Jack and Kate] is, closed, at all, says Lilly. Kate has a real journey, to go on, with Jack, in that, they’ve never addressed the underlying current, of attraction and love, between them. It has, to be addressed. (Entertainment Weekly, 2007)
~Evi on Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in S3: I don’t know, if you can say resolution, because that would mean, it’s permanent. But, there is some sort of a, temporary conclusion, because I do end up, with someone.
~Interviewer: Do you think Kate will be pissed, or upset if she finds out about, what happened between, Sawyer and Ana Lucia?
Evangeline Lilly: I think, Kate is not invested enough, in the romance with Sawyer. I’m not convinced that she is there, romantically. I think, romantically, her heart’s more with, Jack. That’s my own, personal opinion.
Interviewer: I always think so too, because opposites attract.
Evangeline Lilly: I agree. I think, that there’s something about Sawyer, that’s so much like her. That her love for him is, almost like a sibling. You know, like a brother."



The Writers/Creative Team:

~ Damon Lindelof:But then the more time spent on the island, the more Jack would sort of represent to Kate what she would want--stability and comfort and a real adult love, as opposed to that kind of lusty, frothy, "make out in the middle of a torture session" kind of thing.
~Damon Lindelof:On the other hand, Jack and Kate are a classical and romantic couple. They are amazed by each other, and as the time runs, they start to depend of each other, care about each other, the connection between them is getting stronger this season. There is always something, someone in their way. That makes the audience support them all the time"
~JJ"You could put, Jack and Kate on a, NYC street, and have them pass each other, at rush hour, on a Wednesday morning. And, they would stop, and turn, slowing to watch each other go by. They know each other within the context, of a universal recognition. They have met before, this life. And, they will meet again, in another."
~Nevertheless, says exacutive producer Carlton Cuse, the bond between Kate and Jack "is the kind of ultimate relationship."
~Carlton Cuse: "It would be a bad assumption to assume the triangle was over.For that moment in time, Sawyer was the right choice. But that's not the end of it, but any means whatsoever."
~Damon Lindelof: Jack, is the guy, that she should, be with. She does, genuinely love him. And, she knows, that he would take, excellent care of her. (Lost Survival Guide, 2007)
~Damon Lindelof: He [Sawyer], may have won the battle, for her affections. But, he ain’t won, the war. (Online Interview, in response to, Kate’s ‘choosing’ Sawyer in season three, 2006)
~Carlton Cuse: Jack and Kate are kind of the ultimate relationship.
~Gregg Nations: There are so many emotions playing underneath, what they are actually saying. It truly is a testament to both Matthew Fox, and Evangeline Lilly’s skills, and talent, as actors. They make you, care about them as characters. And, you just want to step inside the scene, and make everything, all right. (Fuselage, 2007, in response to the Jack/Kate reunion scene from "I Do")


LOST cast:


~Danielle Hine: So, with the whole, Jack verses Sawyer thing, if you were a lady, who would you go for?
Josh Holloway: Man, that’s a hard one, to answer. Let me, think. I think Jack’s, a keeper. And, Sawyer’s a, fun weekend.
~Josh "I loved Jack and Kate’s kiss. They really captured that moment, how it should be. And, that’s tricky."
~Question: Will Kate and Sawyer, be a happy couple?
Josh Holloway: Of course not. No. [Josh laughs.] I don’t know. I’m sure, Sawyer’s gonna ruin it, right away. Uh. I just hope he gets, uh, at least a couple of weeks, together. [Josh laughs.] I don’t know. But, um, being, knowing, Sawyer, he’s definitely going to ruin it, somehow. They’ll be something, he’ll do. I don’t know when, but, it’ll be quick. [Josh laughs.] (American Online Interview, 2007)

Media:

~Kristin Vietch on Kate's 'choice' in season 3 "As far as “choices” go, I’d say, a passionate presumed pre-death romp, is not exactly proof, that you’ve, found your soul mate."
~Sabrina Rojas Weiss: And, Kate really does, love Jack. At least, that’s how, Sawyer and I are interpreting Kate’s tears. Man, ABC shows do know how, to turn surgery tales into, the best love poems! (TV Guide Online, 2007)
~Kristin Veitch: You see that Kate does have, very strong feelings for, Jack. And, they’re sorta, kinda displayed, in front of, Sawyer. (E! Online, 2007)
~Michael Canfield: Kate doesn’t love Sawyer, although she is, attracted to him. She may, or may not, have admitted it to herself yet, but Kate loves Jack. Here’s why I think so…first, I think, that Kate slept with Sawyer because, as she keeps saying to him, she didn’t want, him to give up, and die.That, along with the tension of imprisonment, and fearing for their lives, gets them together. But, it doesn’t mean, she’s, in love, with him. Furthermore, we saw in the flashback, that she ran away from her husband, Nathan Fillion’s character [Kevin]. Kate doesn’t think she deserves, anything or anyone good. Jack is, good. At least, in Kate’s mind. So, there’s more of a reason, she would go toward Sawyer, when she really loves, Jack. You still might argue that she prefers a bad boy, like Sawyer. But, she gives herself away, when she tells Jack over the walkie-talkie, that she won’t, leave without him. She does not say, “We won’t leave without him.” She’s only thinking, about Jack at that point. She’d rather die, than leave without Jack.(Online Interview, 2006)
~Jimmy Kimmel: All right. I’m gonna tell you, who I, think it is. I’m gonna make, another prediction. I think, it’s gotta be, Sawyer. Because, everyone wants it to be, Jack. (Jimmy Kimmel, 2006, in response on who Kate's 'choice' in S3 would be)
~Interviewer: Jack’s love for Kate, comes through, and hers for, him, as she remembers, his story. Sawyer sees the connection, in Kate’s eyes, and is understanding, but not thrilled. The spoiler is that, Kate will continue to have a Jack connection, and there will a cloud of sorrow over her relationship, with Sawyer until, Jack is returned. (Contender’s Lost Spoilers Online, 2007, in response to the Jack/Kate walkie-talkie moment at the end of “Not in Portland”)
Chris Carabott: Matthew Fox continues to do a fantastic job, portraying an angry Jack Sheppard. But, what really hits home is, Jack’s willingness to sacrifice himself, for Kate. If it hasn’t been beaten over our heads enough, Jack truly does, love Kate. And, even though she has “chosen” Sawyer, he still wants, to protect her. His final words to Kate, not to return to Other-Island, are emotionally charged, beautifully acted, and heart wrenching. (ING Online, 2007, review of "Not in Portland")
~Jack: "I see...I do think she cares...I think she truly loves Jack...you can see it in her face, from the start when she sewed him up. They've had some bumpy spots in the road like when she didn't listen to him, it was almost like a husband and wife thing...he cared about her & didn't want her getting hurt...but he truly...like you can see...you can see when they came into the glass, you can see it in their faces...they're..." Jay: "Uh huh, there was something..." Jack: "...they love each other. And Sawyer cares about her, but I don't see it lasting...he has Cassidy and he has a baby with her so maybe he can go back to her"
~Jay: "My pick, is Jack and Kate as well cause...in the end, I think they're gonna be together...I just think its one of those things in a tv show, thats whats gonna be the ending"















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#103: Her heart and her home are both with him.
#104: Because season 3 will prove they're fate!
#105:They may be lost but they've found eachother
#106: Their story is just getting started!
#107: Because chemistry just comes natural to them
#108: Because they only have each other!
#109: Because fighting for it will only make it better!
#110: When time comes, her choice will be right before her eyes
#111: It's such a powerful love they barely understand it themselves
#112: 'Cause another love interest would just make the decision easier
#113: Because she's underneath his skin
#114: Everything
#115: He is the future she longs for instead of the past she runs from.
#116: Because being apart will eventually bring them together.
#117: Because everyone knows she's his weakness.
#118: Kate's only choice is whether to jump Jack now or later
#119: They'll find each other because they are a part of each other
#121:Because the longer separation the sweeter reunion
#122: :Because he's the home her heart searched for so long
#123: Even without a book of his past, she's written in his future.
#124: She keeps her heart locked up, but he has the key
#125: Jate reunion is coming. Ya'll best get used to the idea!
#126: They've met before this life, and they'll meet again in another!
#127: She'd withstand all hell to hold his hand.
#128: Maybe time waits for no one, but love does and never dies
#129: Because he'd wait forever just to touch her.
#130: "Live together, die alone."
#131: Jack doesn't need to fight for her. He already has her.
#132: Love is like war: Easy to begin but hard to end.
Copulators (J/K)#133: Because the glass couldn't stop the lovin'!
Copulators(J/K)#134: They waited their entire lives for a love like that, we can too
#135: Because true love stories never have an ending
#136: Because no matter what - she will always come first.
#137: Because she's waiting to say 'I love you' to the right one
#138: Because she can't leave without him
#139: The darkest hour is the one before the sunrise.
#140: There's some good left in this world,and it's worth FIGHTING for
#141: You never forget the first time you meet the love of your life.
#142: Of all the people she never wants to lose he's the one she can't
#143:Love is like a star, can't always see it, but it's always there.
#144: What's a choice compared to a path?
#145: WE ARE JATERS
#146: It´s only a matter of time
#147: All the roads lead back to Jate
#148: "I think in the end it'll be the Jack and Kate thing." ~Foxy
#149: heartbreaking.tender.powerful.epic.
#150: lets just say kate hasn't given up on her beau ~ evi
#151: It'd be a bad assumption to assume the triangle was over ~Cuse
Copulators {J&K} #152: "Jack and Kate is kind of the ultimate relationship" ~Cuse
#153: She didn't tell him the story, she told him THEIR story.


TITLE SUGGESTIONS
Because they're trapped in their own little, magic world (by beloved)
Because jack is her everything (by beloved)
They are perfect for each other becuase they are everything the other isn't (by beloved)
Jack's her future. Everyone can see that (by Shiran)
It'll be the greatest love each of them has ever experienced (by Shiran)
She steals his heart and he takes her breath away (by Tia)
In his eyes she sees her future in an instant (by Tia)
They hear each other when they don't say a word (by Tia)
They're always saving each other from themselves (by Tia)
He didn't fix her, they fixed each other (by Tia)
His love makes her see who she really is at heart (by Tia)
They're complete, now that they've found each other (by Tia)
He believes in her, even if nobody understands (by Tia)
Within his darkness, she's the light that shines the way (by Tia)
She came and breathed new life into his lonely heart (by Tia)
Because there are voices inside of them that want to be heard (by jabs)
It's more than just physical, deeper than spiritual (by jabs)
He makes her weak with desire (by jabs)
Two Halves of a Whole (by franci)
He's her sanity (by jabs)
His life with her means everything, so he won't give up so easily (by Tia)
They can't let this love get away from them (by Tia)
Because like her, we have to believe (by MadisonL)
Because even if she runs, she's waiting for him to catch her (by MadisonL)
Because he would sacrifice himself to keep her safe (by MadisonL)
Because if Ben was a betting man, he would put his money on them (by MadisonL)
Because they still remember his story from their first meeting (by MadisonL)
Because she stitched his wounds, literally and figuratively! (by MadisonL)
Simply the best, better than all the rest (jabs)
He's the one who sets her free (jabs)
Love is not a victory march (jabs)
Love covers over a multitude of sins. (Franci)
Because they have what it takes (franci)
Because Jack has the bigger 'boat' (Liesbeth)
Over it is not (Franci)
It's gonna be Jack (Franci)
Everyone can hit a ball. But that's not GOLF (Carla)
Their love and connection is beyond circumstances
First it must hurt, for all it'll be worth
Don't underestimate what they're willing to do for each other
Now Kate will do anything to get the dashing doctor back! (all of those by jabs)
It can't be a closure when none of them wants it to end (Shiran)
Because Jate OWN. (christine)


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Thanks for the new thread!
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New Thread thanks for starting it Em

I love it that even though s/k had sex everyone is using the word LOVE for kate and jack i guess we're not blind then.

I'm bringing this post from the fuselage 'cause I haven't heard this thing put any better yet.

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The real love story of Lost is b/w Kate and Jack b/c they are the two characters who must go through the most development to be with each other. As SO many have said before, Kate and Sawyer could have been together in the real world, but only the island could bring two people like Jack and Kate together...two souls that are strikingly alike at their cores, but b/c of circumstances in the real world, never would have stood a chance of being together.
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No problem

Me too. We were right all along.

That's beautiful and so true.
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Love the new thread. I seriously love all our quotes.

I don't fully agree with that recent one though...I think Jack and Kate would have happened before the crash, in the 'real' world.
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Me too. They're lovely.
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hey guys! for new thread! i disagree with them not happening in "the real world" but the rest of the quotes are awesome! i havent checked in since the ep.. so, i know its delayed but... SQUEE! im not gunna lie.. i got emotional.. and i loved the look on sawyers face when she was telling jack the story.. it was truely an "oh sh**, i dont stand a chance" look! and like hell she wont go back for him!
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Well,i agree with that quote. fate brought together two people that should NOT have met..(and should not have fallen in love). They were destinated to meet ,like they were destinated to survive to the plane crash.The island gave them their second chance in each other. THAT's why they would not have worked in the real world, because they would not have MET.
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New thread! Love the title.

That quote is great, I completely agree with it. Well it's still too early to say if there's a pre-island connection between jate but I kinda like the idea that they wouldn't have met off the island. And that wouldn't really make sense cause I KNOW that if they had met, they wouldn't have been able to take their eyes off of each other. There's this some kinda universal recognition about them... That's why they will make through all the brainwashes and everything that comes in their way.

I watched HOTRS and The Moth just a few hours ago and that Locke's moth speech to Charlie really hit home for me in terms of jate. Struggle is nature's way to strengthen and Jack and Kate's relationship is struggling right now. There could probably be ways to ease the situation contemporarily, but if their love was 'freed' now it would still be too weak to survive FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. you know what I'm saying? Jate is for life and their relationship is getting stronger and preparing itself for that.

God, I love this couple.
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Great post Anne. I completely agree with you.
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I guess, I just see them as, they are so meant to be, they didn't need to have this crash, in order to bring them together. It would have happened in some other way, just reguarding these two. But then again, I'm not big on fate.
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New thread! Thanks Emma
I the title!
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No problem, Giuly.

The title is really pretty.
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yippie thanks Emma
and the title is so true
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New thread! Love the title.
if they had met, they wouldn't have been able to take their eyes off of each other.
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