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Old 08-06-2017, 10:13 AM
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lucas got his dad (keith) killed bc of Dan, he probably never got over that and his little sister never got to know her dad he probably never forgave him!
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:04 AM
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He had no reason to. No one did, really.
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Old 08-06-2017, 02:11 PM
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Yep, I find it really dumb that some people hate Luke for not forgiving Dan.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:05 AM
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Seriously? The man murdered Lucas' father figure. He had every reason to despise him.
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:41 AM
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Not to mention abandoned him before he was born. Some people just hate him for the sake of it.
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:01 PM
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That doesn't even surprise me, tbh. Some people will look for any reason. The Dan situation though... Lucas was clearly the one in the right.
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Old 08-09-2017, 01:57 AM
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I can understand hating for the cheating and all, but to hate him for thinking his godson shouldn't be hanging out with an murderer? That's just dumb and I doubt people would hate Nathan for it if the roles were reversed.
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Old 08-09-2017, 11:42 AM
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They probably wouldn't
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Old 08-09-2017, 02:34 PM
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Yep, the double standards of some sections of this fandom drives me insane.
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:15 PM
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I think the THING that hurt me the most about this Dan killing Keith thing is that it COULD have gotten avoided, and I realized that more as I got older and re-watched it.

I find what Dan did as pretty much unforgivable so I didn't care for the redemption nonsense but I feel the distance between Keith and Dan started a long time ago with Karen of course. And that can sort of be Karen's fault because she never told Keith about Dan actually wanting to be in Lucas life so Keith grew up hating his brother for no reason.

Than of course later on in life, Keith sleeps with Dan's wife, Deb.

So this turns Dan to even MORE of a villain because he starts believing that Keith literally wants EVERYTHING that he has, from Karen, to his son, Lucas, to even sleeping with Deb. It makes Dan even more aggressive and hell bent on destroying Keith's life they way he felt his brother was trying to destroy's his.

And then the season 2 finale, the fire happens... someone leaves Dan for dead and that's what takes Dan down the darkest path he's ever went through because he needs to know WHO killed him. At first he believes it's Lucas but of course eventually he learns that it's not so in his mind, he officially HAD the killer as Keith.

So I feel even if it wasn't at school, it would have been some other time he would have tried to kill Keith... and it's ALL because he believed that Keith tried to kill him at the dealership only to find out it was Deb the whole time. When he finds out about Deb, I think that's when REAL remorse and guilt starts...

Before that, he just felt he killed the person who was going to kill him.

So, the worst about this whole situation is how it could've be avoidable and how in some sad way it felt like years in the making.

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Old 08-09-2017, 11:48 PM
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^ Yeah that's definitely true, but I still think Dan didn't really want to be apart of Luke's life, since if he really wanted to be, he would have shown Karen that he did. Instead he gave up and pretty much showed that Karen was right to not want to be apart of Luke's life.
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:51 PM
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Yeah, if Dan really wanted to be a part of Lucas' life he would have fought for it. I think all Dan wanted from that was to control Karen and Lucas.

And to me, it doesn't really matter what Dan thought Keith had done when he killed him, even if he did have vague evidence, which he didn't, two wrongs don't make a right.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:15 PM
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^ Yep and when he didn't get that, he just decided to control Nathan and Deb instead.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:03 AM
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If he honestly thought Keith had tried to kill him he should have left it to the police. He didn't because he was a bad person. And he definitely used it as a means of control.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:53 PM
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Yep and that's not forget that he tried to kill Lucas too and probably would have done it if it wasn't for Peyton.
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