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Old 01-22-2006, 08:14 AM
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I don't know man... I just have a really bad feeling. I really do think that they are going to hook Jackie and Fez up but they could just be trying to mess with our Zennie minds.
Unfornately, I'm getting the feeling that the writers don't care about us enough to do that.. I'm holding on to a tiny glimmer of hope that I will be pleasantly surprised!
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Old 01-22-2006, 08:47 AM
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One way I can still see it going is Fez going to confront Hyde. Fez has to be pissed now that Jackie doesn't want to be with him because he said and did things to her that Hyde egged him in to doing. So while Fez is still upset over Jackie, he's probably going to be angry with Hyde. Something is going to have to come of that. Maybe Fez will go to Hyde and ask him why he made him do those things, because now Jackie's really hurt and doesn't want to be with him. This could all result in unresolved feelings surfacing on Hyde's part, and Fez could pick up on that. Fez has always been able to read Hyde fairly well, so you'd think Hyde's constant bitching about Jackie and mocking of his past relationship with her, acting as though memories of it are equivalent to war flashbacks when Fez knew first hand how much Hyde loved her and that they were happy together, that he would pick up on it all eventually and call Hyde on it.


The thing is though, that after all of this, I don't care anymore. I really hate what the writers have done, because they've made Hyde so unlikable for me right now. I just don't care if he gets back with Jackie at this point, because I don't think he deserves to be with someone who loved him as much as she did when he can be such a callous bastard in return. And it bothers me because Callous Bastard Hyde is REALLY OOC Hyde. He's definitely had his jerk moments in the past, just like all the other characters have, but one part of Hyde's major appeal was that you knew underneath the extra rough exterior was a genuinely great guy who truly cared about all of the people in his life. That was all clearly evident in the first seven seasons. This final one? Not so much.
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Old 01-22-2006, 10:15 AM
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Ok so I heard on another board from someone who said they went to the last taping that they announced that Ashton was coming back for the finale but Topher isn't? Is this true?? I'd thought I'd ask here first to make sure..
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Old 01-22-2006, 01:35 PM
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Jackie/Kelso I'd understand. Jackie/Hyde I'd understand. I'd be happy with either of those (of course, I'd prefer Jackie/Hyde but Jackie/Kelso would make sense, at least). But Jackie/Fez? A couple that have never been together, and not in a *triestothinkofanexample* Phoebe/Joey or Mulder/Scully kind of way, doesn't make sense.

I'm still going to try and think positively. I mean, if Kelso is back for the finale, maybe he & Fez will straighten Jackie/Hyde out, as they BOTH have done in the past. Jackie/Hyde aren't good at putting aside their stubbornness without someone else's help, so that might be something positive to look at.
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Old 01-22-2006, 02:05 PM
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Ok so I heard on another board from someone who said they went to the last taping that they announced that Ashton was coming back for the finale but Topher isn't? Is this true?? I'd thought I'd ask here first to make sure..
The only thing that I've heard is that Ashton is officially coming back. They are still working on Topher but nothing is final yet.
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Old 01-22-2006, 02:06 PM
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Jackie/Kelso I'd understand. Jackie/Hyde I'd understand. I'd be happy with either of those (of course, I'd prefer Jackie/Hyde but Jackie/Kelso would make sense, at least). But Jackie/Fez? A couple that have never been together, and not in a *triestothinkofanexample* Phoebe/Joey or Mulder/Scully kind of way, doesn't make sense.

I'm still going to try and think positively. I mean, if Kelso is back for the finale, maybe he & Fez will straighten Jackie/Hyde out, as they BOTH have done in the past. Jackie/Hyde aren't good at putting aside their stubbornness without someone else's help, so that might be something positive to look at.
I completely agree. It just makes absolutely no sense at all to end a show with a never-been-together couple. Especially when one of them is part of a couple that has been together and has been/is very popular.

What I'm hoping is that we've gotten our Kelso/Jackie "closure" with his proposal and her rejection of it. I really don't think we need to go down the Jackie/Kelso road again. But I really like the idea of him and Fez helping Jackie/Hyde come together is good and makes sense...you're right...they've both done that before, and it would be fitting to have it happen again now.

We certainly haven't gotten Jackie/Hyde closure, so I figure this has got to be leading to that, one way or another. So either we get a reunion or at least them coming to terms with one another....ideally, a reunion! Of course, maybe I'm giving the writers entirely too much credit!
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Old 01-22-2006, 02:16 PM
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One way I can still see it going is Fez going to confront Hyde. Fez has to be pissed now that Jackie doesn't want to be with him because he said and did things to her that Hyde egged him in to doing. So while Fez is still upset over Jackie, he's probably going to be angry with Hyde. Something is going to have to come of that. Maybe Fez will go to Hyde and ask him why he made him do those things, because now Jackie's really hurt and doesn't want to be with him. This could all result in unresolved feelings surfacing on Hyde's part, and Fez could pick up on that. Fez has always been able to read Hyde fairly well, so you'd think Hyde's constant bitching about Jackie and mocking of his past relationship with her, acting as though memories of it are equivalent to war flashbacks when Fez knew first hand how much Hyde loved her and that they were happy together, that he would pick up on it all eventually and call Hyde on it.


The thing is though, that after all of this, I don't care anymore. I really hate what the writers have done, because they've made Hyde so unlikable for me right now. I just don't care if he gets back with Jackie at this point, because I don't think he deserves to be with someone who loved him as much as she did when he can be such a callous bastard in return. And it bothers me because Callous Bastard Hyde is REALLY OOC Hyde. He's definitely had his jerk moments in the past, just like all the other characters have, but one part of Hyde's major appeal was that you knew underneath the extra rough exterior was a genuinely great guy who truly cared about all of the people in his life. That was all clearly evident in the first seven seasons. This final one? Not so much.
i think that Felicity Nerd is right that maybe fez and kelso are going to bring them 2gether like they've done in the past and maybe they just eric will come back and surprise them
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Old 01-22-2006, 02:17 PM
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One way I can still see it going is Fez going to confront Hyde. Fez has to be pissed now that Jackie doesn't want to be with him because he said and did things to her that Hyde egged him in to doing. So while Fez is still upset over Jackie, he's probably going to be angry with Hyde. Something is going to have to come of that. Maybe Fez will go to Hyde and ask him why he made him do those things, because now Jackie's really hurt and doesn't want to be with him. This could all result in unresolved feelings surfacing on Hyde's part, and Fez could pick up on that. Fez has always been able to read Hyde fairly well, so you'd think Hyde's constant bitching about Jackie and mocking of his past relationship with her, acting as though memories of it are equivalent to war flashbacks when Fez knew first hand how much Hyde loved her and that they were happy together, that he would pick up on it all eventually and call Hyde on it.


The thing is though, that after all of this, I don't care anymore. I really hate what the writers have done, because they've made Hyde so unlikable for me right now. I just don't care if he gets back with Jackie at this point, because I don't think he deserves to be with someone who loved him as much as she did when he can be such a callous bastard in return. And it bothers me because Callous Bastard Hyde is REALLY OOC Hyde. He's definitely had his jerk moments in the past, just like all the other characters have, but one part of Hyde's major appeal was that you knew underneath the extra rough exterior was a genuinely great guy who truly cared about all of the people in his life. That was all clearly evident in the first seven seasons. This final one? Not so much.
i think that Felicity Nerd is right that maybe fez and kelso are going to bring them 2gether like they've done in the past and maybe they just eric will come back and surprise them
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Old 01-22-2006, 02:24 PM
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The only thing that I've heard is that Ashton is officially coming back. They are still working on Topher but nothing is final yet.
I honestly don't remember them saying that Ashton was signed on. I remember someone saying that they were working on both of them right now and that Ashton is probably the better bet at getting back. They need to work extra hard on Topher because of his commitment to Spider-Man 3. I hope Topher comes back to give the show some type of closure but I'd totally understand if he didn't want to be associated with this piece of crap season considering what the writers have done to his character.
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Old 01-22-2006, 02:31 PM
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I still have hopes of them spending at least 5 minutes doing a futuristic look at what they all end up doing in the finale. It makes sense, since they actually can go into the future and know what will happen.
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JackieHydeLover, j/w, what exactly was in that packet you gave the writers?
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JackieHydeLover, j/w, what exactly was in that packet you gave the writers?

Well, I posted on some threads that I was giving everyone on the forum an option of PMing me any comments that they had of the shows writing. Mostly what was sent to me were people upset over the way the show was writing J/H/F. Some was on character development of all the characters and have everyone was OOC this season. If you want to see my opening statement to the writers explaining the packet I can either post it or PM you. That goes to everyone who wants to see it.
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Jackie slept with Kelso, that was crazy enough to make Hyde marry a tripper.


Jackie didn't sleep with Kelso, Hyde just assumed like in You Shook Me.
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So I just read a transcript, and yeah she didn't altho where i found out they did was on this board back when the first spoilers for this season started.

so he married a stripper and followed through on the marriage when Jackie did nothing? why didn't he just send th stripper away?? So he married her in Vegas, that's what annulments and divorce are for. or just "not have sex"

wow i used to have some sympathy now i just dont know

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Jackie slept with Kelso, that was crazy enough to make Hyde marry a tripper.


Jackie didn't sleep with Kelso, Hyde just assumed like in You Shook Me.
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So I just read a transcript, and yeah she didn't altho where i found out they did was on this board back when the first spoilers for this season started.

so he married a stripper and followed through on the marriage when Jackie did nothing? why didn't he just send th stripper away?? So he married her in Vegas, that's what annulments and divorce are for. or just "not have sex"

wow i used to have some sympathy now i just dont know

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Old 01-22-2006, 04:19 PM
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I still have hopes of them spending at least 5 minutes doing a futuristic look at what they all end up doing in the finale. It makes sense, since they actually can go into the future and know what will happen.
A look in the future of the gang's lifes will be great, but only if we find out Jackie as Mrs Hyde...

Ok, i know there are just 45 min. of taping, but they've already make a reunion in less than that, think of J/K season 3, or E/D season 5, J/H season 6 and 7, not very great stuff, apart BIGLY, but who cares?

I still think Hyde he's acting with Fez and Jackie like he has done with Kelso and her in seas 2, and we all know he was sabotaging Kelso!!

And i still think something has to happen...
Because: Why is Hyde single again if not for coming back at his early idea; propouse to Jackie
Because Jackie deserves a real good lover, not a funny buddy!
Because if the Formans go to FL, and will give their house to Hyde; with whom is going to live in there?
Because for the final they need a tested hot cute couple...
Because screw Wilmer!! Jackei plus Hyde and Danny plus Mila HAVE A VERY MUCH LARGER FAN BASE!!!
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