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OUAT Spoilers & Speculation #86: "Whoever holds the magic, controls the fate of them all."
credit: MaybeLove. CAST Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina Jared Gilmore as Henry Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby Emilie de Ravin as Belle Colin O'Donoghue as Captain Hook CREW Adam Horowitz, executive producer and writer Jane Espenson, writer Liz Tigelaar, writer Andrew Chambliss, writer promotional pictures of the cast Comic Con Posters Show Posters Official Season Two Posters Master storytellers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz ("Lost," "Tron: Legacy") invite everyone to Storybrooke, Maine, a small town that probably won't show up on one's GPS, but it's a place where magic is coming! UPCOMING EPISODES CASTING & GUEST STARS SET PICS
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probably why we cant compare the character in the story to Real Life issues. In real life we'd treat Rumple, Regina and Hook differently. and the relationships. __________________
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Thanks for the new thread!
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RumplestiltskinBelle. "Love only brought me pain. My walls were up. But you brought them down. You brought me home. You brought light into my life and chased away all the darkness" ~ Rumplestiltskin
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Also the poorest thing to do is compare characters on the show to real life situations, that's why it's a show based on fairy tales. |
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Since Hook and Rumple are probably never going to die nor leave I say they handle this in one of two ways. Call a truce or Gold can draw a big line in the middle of the town and they can't cross the line dividing up the territory. Granny's restaurant can be the middle ground.
That's the 5 year old way to handle disputes. Though I am pretty sure soon enough they will bury the hatchet because that's part of Hook's journey letting go, moving on, and finding something else to live for like Rumple has. |
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Nah, Rumple's just too complicated to summarize and I was working on a deadline. Just to say it, I know I sounded negative on Hook. But, it's a lot easier for me to just see him as a TV character we have differing views on so long as I get those reassurances. On Regina--I see her as having a very messed up childhood. It might be better to say that her view of the world is very self-centric rather than to say she's selfish. Regina sees things in terms of how they effect her. It's not just there in terms of her being a villain. Think of an abused child (which Regina was) who learned to view everything in terms of whether or not it would be dangerous to her. We're talking about a child with a certain degree of learned helplessness. She doesn't defy her mother because she's learned it's useless--or worse--to do so. For the same reason, she doesn't feel the same responsibility a normal person might have felt to interfere in things her mother did to others. I'm not saying she should have, I'm saying that a person without a sense of learned helplessness, even if nothing could be done, would likely feel frustrated and upset about not doing something to stop Cora. Regina learned not to feel that, to accept what she couldn't do. The problem with learned helplessness, is that you can continue in that framework even when things change and you have options. Regina became a queen and a powerful witch, but she still has a very narrow view of things. Again, she sees them mostly in terms of how the effect her--especially if she sees them as threats. So, she sees Neal's connection to Henry--and Henry's connection to Rumple--as threatening to diminish her connection with Henry. She doesn't see it as something that gives her a tie to people who had been enemies and who may, consequently, be easier to work with or (if you want to be negative) make them less likely to retaliate over past wrongs. But, if her view were different, she might clue in that getting rid of everyone Henry loves will not make him love her more. Rumple: Rumple is complicated. His motives look so good. He loves Belle and is trying to help her. He needs her. But, will he destroy what is left of his soul to get her back? And how many cane bruised guys will be lying in the streets of SB by the time we find out? |
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I doubt Hook and Rumple will make peace any time soon. But it will be interesting to see what leads them into this temporary alliance with Regina and everyone else.
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I wanted to address Kelaine's above post concerning Regina where he/she said that he/she doesn't see Regina as a true sociopath because she (Regina) can feel empathy for Henry.
I did a quick search to see whether or not sociopaths were capable of feeling empathy, and they are; it's just that they can only feel empathy if certain 'criteria' are met. An example that was used in the search result that I clicked on is family members. Regina clearly sees Henry as family... therefore, as a sociopathic individual, she would be capable of feeling empathy for him but not for anyone else in town. __________________
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