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OUAT Spoilers & Speculation #86: "Whoever holds the magic, controls the fate of them all."


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CAST
Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan
Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret
Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David
Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold
Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina
Jared Gilmore as Henry
Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby
Emilie de Ravin as Belle
Colin O'Donoghue as Captain Hook


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Adam Horowitz, executive producer and writer
Jane Espenson, writer
Liz Tigelaar, writer
Andrew Chambliss, writer

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Master storytellers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz ("Lost," "Tron: Legacy") invite everyone to Storybrooke, Maine, a small town that probably won't show up on one's GPS, but it's a place where magic is coming!

To ensure that no one in fairytale land – especially Snow White – had any more "happily ever afters," Evil Queen Regina cast a curse which trapped the fairytale characters, frozen in time, and brought them into our modern world. Although still alive, they had no knowledge of their former selves and were sleepwalking through life – ageless -- for 28 years, until a savior arrived in the form of Emma Swan. Unbeknownst to Emma, she was the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming, who had whisked her out of fairytale land and into our world as an infant to save her from the curse. Abandoned as a baby, Emma's life was anything but magical; her last job was as a bail bondsperson, but she mostly drifted without much of a life plan. When her 10-year-old son, Henry -- whom she had given up for adoption years earlier -- appeared on her doorstep with a book of fairytales and a wild story about how Emma was the progeny of fairytale characters trapped in a town called Storybrooke, she thought he was crazy. But curiosity got the better of her, and when she brought Henry back to the town – where Regina, ever the control freak, had made herself mayor and was also Henry's adoptive mother -- Emma soon discovered that Storybrooke was more than it seemed. Over time she came to believe the stories were true, began to see cracks in the curse, and was finally able to break it.

Reality and myth were merged as the fairytale characters began awakening, once the curse was lifted, and remembered who they were. But to their dismay they were not transported back to fairytale land. And to make matters worse, Rumplestiltskin – aka Mr. Gold – in an effort to gain the upper hand in his power struggle with Regina, introduced magic into the town. In fairytales magic has its place, but in our world it can have unfathomable consequences. Now the fairytale characters must contend with magic in their quest to find a way home, as new fairytale characters are revealed, old acquaintances are revisited, and some we had come to believe could be trusted will turn against their own kind.

"Once Upon a Time" stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.





UPCOMING EPISODES

2.21 Second Star to the Right

"Second Star to the Right" - Emma, Mary Margaret and David go in search of Regina when they discover that she - along with some magic beans - have gone missing. But against Neal's protests, Emma still believes that Tamara had something to do with Regina's disappearance; and Mr. Gold contemplates telling Lacey the truth about his ability to conjure magic. Meanwhile, after Rumplestiltskin abandons his son and lets him travel alone through a portal, young Bae finds himself back in 19th century London and is taken in by the Darling family -- befriending their daughter Wendy -- on "Once Upon a Time," SUNDAY, MAY 5 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

"Once Upon a Time" stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O'Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

Guest starring are David Anders as Dr. Whale/Victor Frankenstein, Keegan Connor Tracy as Mother Superior/Blue Fairy, Michael Raymond-James as Neal Cassidy, Dylan Schmid as young Baelfire, Ethan Embry as Greg Mendell, Christopher Gauthier as Smee, Sonequa Martin-Green as Tamara, Freya Tingley as Wendy, Benjamin Cook as Michael, William Ainschough as John, Andrew Airlie as George and Karin Inghammar as Mary.

"Second Star to the Right" was written by Andrew Chambliss & Ian Goldberg and directed by Ralph Hemecker.


  • For episode 2.21, the role of Heidi is being cast. She's 13, British, and also described as being compassionate, mischievous, and somewhat naive about how dangerous the world can be. (Source)


2.22 Straight on 'Til Morning
  • For Once Upon a Time episode 2.22, a few teen boy roles are being cast that might be recurring. One of the boys is named Felix, and he's their leader. (Source)







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SEASON 2 SPOILERS
  • We will find out about the book and who wrote it.
  • There are “major plans” for Cora this season (possible 3-episode arc)
  • Question: I have a burning Once Upon a Time question — was the outside world affected when the curse was broken? —Jen
    Ausiello: That’s what EP Adam Horowitz referred to as “an excellent question” when it was lobbed to him at Comic-Con over the weekend.
    “I think the best way to answer that,” he responded, “is to say that that will be explicated rather quickly.” Explicate: To analyze and develop (an idea or principle) in detail. (Source)
  • Question: Any scoop on August from Once Upon a Time? Please don’t say they’re not bringing him back. —Rae
    Ausiello: “We are definitely going to tell what happened to Pinocchio,” EP Edward Kitsis assured us at Con. “The last we saw, he was wood.”
    Added Horowitz: “We gotta figure out what happened to him. We started the story and we intend to finish it.” (source)
  • Alexa: What's next for Snow and Charming on OUAT?! Please tell me they won't be getting new love interests!
    Relax! It seems like the show's creators are more interested in exploring the relationship between the couple and their daughter than any prospective love interests. "There's a lot of challenges, in terms of this new relationship with their daughter. Rather than focusing on last season, where it was they didn't know who each other were and whether they'll get together and will we overcome the Kathryn of it all, this year it's a whole different set of challenges that this new familial relationship presents," Adam Horowitz explains. (Source)
  • Will anything surprise us about the upcoming episodes of Once Upon a Time? — Megan
    NATALIE: We know that the flashbacks lead to Regina enacting the curse, but coming trips to the past may surprise you. "We're going to show you some things in our world that you didn't even think were an option," executive producer Edward Kitsis says. Will we see flashbacks to other lands — say, Oz? Kitsis remains coy. "[They'll] center on our characters, but in surprising ways." (Source)
  • Now that Once Upon a Time‘s Hook is out in the open, will we get to see him interact with the other residents of Storybrooke? –Stefanie
    You mean, presuming he survived getting mowed down by The Outsider, right? (Of course he lives.) Well, to perhaps – perhaps! – answer your question, I’ll offer up this scooplet. “Emma’s love life is going to get really complicated,” series cocreator Adam Horowitz told me last week. In fact, across Storybrooke at large, he said, “The permutations of romance will continue to turn as we move forward.” (Source)
  • What time will the Once Upon a Time Lightning Round article be posted? —Hannah JoAnn, via Twitter
    NATALIE: Soon, Hannah. Better yet, because I'm feeling generous today, I will give you a sneak preview! Will poor Belle ever get her memories back? The answer is... yes! "If it was permanent, that would be the most bleak end," executive producer Edward Kitsis says, noting that how Gold helps her gets her memory back will certainly be a story line to watch out for. Let's take a moment to breathe a sigh of relief. Good? OK. (Source)
  • Any plans for Mulan to return to Once? — Alyson
    “We’re not going to rule anything out and there are some surprises we want to keep in store for characters who may be coming back later in the season,” says executive producer Adam Horowitz. “So we’re not going to rule anything out nor will we confirm or deny.” Source
  • Now that Once Upon a Time‘s Emma has disappointed Henry by lying to him about his father, will Regina have a chance to really reconnect with her son? –Vicki
    That is totally where I thought this was going, too, but it appears we’re both wrong. As Jennifer Morrison explained to me, “Unfortunately for Regina at this point, she is so wrapped up in her own sort of mess with her mother being in town and the complications of that relationship, and sort of her failing at trying to not use magic, she sort of misses seeing her opportunity [with Henry]. She does make a move to get him back, but she doesn’t necessarily make the most strategic move, based on the circumstances.” (Source)
  • Once Upon a Time | Since many – myself included – have speculated that Cora cast some sort of spell on her daughter, and that’s why Regina seems to have abandoned her redemption tour, I asked the series’ creators if we are onto something. Short answer: Nope. As Eddy Kitsis reminds, “In Episode 9, we saw Regina say, ‘I have to kill you, Mother. Your grip on my heart is too strong.’ So while the audience is right to be wary of Cora, and Regina is right to be wary of her mother’s true intentions, we can never forget how important the need to get your mom’s approval and love is.” Adam Horowitz meanwhile offered this teaser for fans of Lana Parrilla’s ever-unpredictable alter ego: “We’re going to see some Regina unleashed!” Source
  • OMG, is Once Upon a Time going to Neverland?! —Jayma
    NATALIE: Based on the final two episode titles, it certainly sounds like it. But I have some bad news about the finale. If last year's was about breaking the curse, this year's is a little more ominous than that. "At the end of last year, Mr. Gold said magic was coming. Now that magic is here, it always comes with a price. In the finale, we'll see that price," executive producer Edward Kitsis tells me. Does that mean someone is going to die? Executive producer Adam Horowitz adds, "We should always be worried about death, but I would say that there are things to be worried about that you are probably not worried about yet, but you will be!" Source
  • Will Neal’s fiancée play a role in future Once Upon a Time episodes? –Devin
    Yes — though probably not in quite the way you expect. And that’s all I’ll say, for now, on the matter… so here’s series cocreator Eddy Kitsis, pre-PaleyFest: “Tamara’s not going anywhere anytime soon…. We’re very excited for the audience to see what she’s all about.” (Ooh, Devin, you came so close to asking the question I have a tantalizing response for. Maybe next week….) Source.
  • I know we’re going to see Regina and Snow feuding more than ever now that Snow killed Cora, but are we going to get to see Regina mourn a little? -- Trish
    For sure. In fact, Lana Parrilla tells me that even though we’ll see Regina having a bit of a “one track mind” when it comes to revenge, “you’re definitely going to see [her pain.] There’s a moment of grieving and mourning her mother’s passing,” she says. Source
  • If Once Upon a Time‘s Tamara basically has been lying to Neal about everything, then she also possibly lied about Hook. Any scoop on him? –@onceuponamirror
    Your hypothesis would seem to be sound, about lying liars and the lies they tell and all. As for scoop on Hook himself, I can promise you’ll never guess where he next turns up. BONUS SCOOPLET: This just in from Deadline: Brit Michael Socha (aka Tom from the UK’s Being Human) has been cast as The Knave in the Wonderland-centric Once spin-off. Source
  • I about died when I saw the beautiful Tom Ellis (The Fades, Merlin) in the Once Upon a Time promo. Do you have any scoop on his Robin Hood character? –Sandi
    While Adam Horowitz says that Ellis is “amazing” in the role and Eddy Kitsis teases that he figures into “a very fun scene with Rumple,” the series’ creators stress that the Rumple/Belle-centric episode (airing April 21) will not delve into the Prince of Theives’ backstory. “It’s done in the spirit of what we did a lot in Season 1 — bringing in a character and mashing him up with our story without having to do ‘the Robin Hood story,’” says Kitsis. “But now there is a character in our universe who, should the time arise, we would love to delve into further.”Source
  • We were given a hint about a connection between Once Upon a Time’s Neal and Hook in Neverland. Do you have any scoop about what their history might be? – Stef
    I kinda sorta do, and I share it in the next episode of Spoiler Alert! But until that goes live, I can share that the dots will be connected in this season’s penultimate episode, “Second Star to the Right.” Source
  • Dina: I am going through Once Upon a Time withdrawals. Got any scoop on what to expect?
    A trip to a new land…possibly a permanent one! "They sort of set up that we are maybe heading to another land. They've teased that at the end of season two," Jennifer Morrison teases of season three. "I will be interested to see how we are all impacted by that new land. I think whenever we're in a place where everyone's relationships are impacted by their environment and it heightens the stakes for everyone, it becomes very interesting drama." Source
  • Question: Got any scoop on Revenge, Once Upon a Time, Nashville, Hannibal or Orphan Black? —Danae
    Ausiello: On the Once Upon a Time front, expect to see Mulan, Aurora and Prince Phillip once again, before the season is over. And lest you think Regina’s “trigger” to implode Storybrooke is just a MacGuffin for us to gaze upon and imagine its potential, ”We’re definitely going to see what that black diamond does,” EP Eddy Kitsis warns. Source



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Hook: I'm not trying to rehash the differences of opinion, here. Just, promise me, everyone who accepts Hook as more the swashbuckling pirate hero or anti-hero, if you are ever on a jury and a guy defends himself by saying he wasn't shooting to kill when he shot a girl in the back, YOU WON"T BELIEVE HIM.

Especially if he did it in poor lighting. And if he has a history of violence.

And, promise me, if you ever find yourself alone with a guy who makes crude, sexual remarks about women no matter how inappropriate the circumstances--like, say, to a woman when her husband, a cop, is present and they're investigating the site where he tortured a guy into giving him information on someone he's stated repeatedly he means to kill--you will be dialing 911 and putting as much distance as possible between you.

Regina: I've kind of given up on looking for redemption for Regina. I still don't think she's a sociopath in the strict sense--she is capable of feeling empathy for Henry--but her utter selfishness where everything in the universe is judged by how it impacts her (murder all of SB and not have competition for Henry's affection equals good in her mind) is too much. She could become Mother Teresa right now and I wouldn't turn my back on her. Ever.
You forgot the paragraph about Rumple...
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You forgot the paragraph about Rumple...
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probably why we cant compare the character in the story to Real Life issues. In real life we'd treat Rumple, Regina and Hook differently. and the relationships.
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probably why we cant compare the character in the story to Real Life issues. In real life we'd treat Rumple, Regina and Hook differently. and the relationships.
Yeah, in Real Life they'd probably all be in jail somewhere (or worst, maybe even dead in some countries where punishment of death still exists )
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Yeah, in Real Life they'd probably all be in jail somewhere (or worst, maybe even dead in some countries where punishment of death still exists )
true.. or if you're a woman stoned to death..
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You forgot the paragraph about Rumple...
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Mais oui! (I failed French class.) In an upcoming TVLine Q&A, Lana Parrilla has plenty of wonderful things to say (and tease) about the final three episodes, including how the May 12 finale features “a very sobering moment, where the audience will be very surprised to see some characters have to come together, to work together, to save one another.”
Well clearly we more than likely know what this is referring to.

Also the poorest thing to do is compare characters on the show to real life situations, that's why it's a show based on fairy tales.
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Well clearly we more than likely know what this is referring to.

Also the poorest thing to do is compare characters on the show to real life situations, that's why it's a show based on fairy tales.
I agree. There's no way in the world I'd love Rumple, like Regina and Hook if this were real. The fun is that it's tv and they are fun.
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Since Hook and Rumple are probably never going to die nor leave I say they handle this in one of two ways. Call a truce or Gold can draw a big line in the middle of the town and they can't cross the line dividing up the territory. Granny's restaurant can be the middle ground.

That's the 5 year old way to handle disputes.

Though I am pretty sure soon enough they will bury the hatchet because that's part of Hook's journey letting go, moving on, and finding something else to live for like Rumple has.
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You forgot the paragraph about Rumple...

Nah, Rumple's just too complicated to summarize and I was working on a deadline.

Just to say it, I know I sounded negative on Hook. But, it's a lot easier for me to just see him as a TV character we have differing views on so long as I get those reassurances.

On Regina--I see her as having a very messed up childhood. It might be better to say that her view of the world is very self-centric rather than to say she's selfish. Regina sees things in terms of how they effect her. It's not just there in terms of her being a villain. Think of an abused child (which Regina was) who learned to view everything in terms of whether or not it would be dangerous to her. We're talking about a child with a certain degree of learned helplessness. She doesn't defy her mother because she's learned it's useless--or worse--to do so. For the same reason, she doesn't feel the same responsibility a normal person might have felt to interfere in things her mother did to others. I'm not saying she should have, I'm saying that a person without a sense of learned helplessness, even if nothing could be done, would likely feel frustrated and upset about not doing something to stop Cora. Regina learned not to feel that, to accept what she couldn't do.

The problem with learned helplessness, is that you can continue in that framework even when things change and you have options. Regina became a queen and a powerful witch, but she still has a very narrow view of things. Again, she sees them mostly in terms of how the effect her--especially if she sees them as threats. So, she sees Neal's connection to Henry--and Henry's connection to Rumple--as threatening to diminish her connection with Henry. She doesn't see it as something that gives her a tie to people who had been enemies and who may, consequently, be easier to work with or (if you want to be negative) make them less likely to retaliate over past wrongs.

But, if her view were different, she might clue in that getting rid of everyone Henry loves will not make him love her more.

Rumple: Rumple is complicated. His motives look so good. He loves Belle and is trying to help her. He needs her. But, will he destroy what is left of his soul to get her back? And how many cane bruised guys will be lying in the streets of SB by the time we find out?
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I doubt Hook and Rumple will make peace any time soon. But it will be interesting to see what leads them into this temporary alliance with Regina and everyone else.
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I wanted to address Kelaine's above post concerning Regina where he/she said that he/she doesn't see Regina as a true sociopath because she (Regina) can feel empathy for Henry.

I did a quick search to see whether or not sociopaths were capable of feeling empathy, and they are; it's just that they can only feel empathy if certain 'criteria' are met. An example that was used in the search result that I clicked on is family members. Regina clearly sees Henry as family... therefore, as a sociopathic individual, she would be capable of feeling empathy for him but not for anyone else in town.
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