WonderlandGabby

I love Hook but he is like the worst villain and i'm really disappointed. They made it seem like he was going to be the crazy threat, and all that's happened is his plans failing and getting his ass kicked by everyone. And now if he does team up with the charmings...the though makes me want to pull my hair out. I want a GOOD villain ( and by good I mean horribly evil)

FAU

I don't think torture would help.

If he does join, hopefully his character will start to be competent for once.

bluefox

you know they must have a plan....maybe they want Regina and trying convinced him to help them by telling him that they can kill rumple....
and cora she was an powerful witch he may think she is alive or he doesn't care because she betrayed him and want revenge so he takes it from Regina and help them at the same time...

Lucas4Brooke

Unfortunately they got rid of the only good villain they had:Cora. I just can't see Rumple or Regina as villains anymore. They started out that way but both of them have been put on the path to redemption for awhile now. Regina may have lost her way recently but I think something is gonna make her change and go back to the path she was on. Rumple, I expect him to have slip ups hey, being evil for 300 years has got to have left a mark on him. I don't expect his journey to be perfect but I don't think he's gonna veer as way off as Regina has but we'll see.
Hook? he's a laughable villain, like you say always bested and his plans never go to hand. Tamara, she's not my kind of villain but I'll see if I change my mind as the next eps air. The writers need to bring a good, better, eviler villain next season. Someone to keep our characters on their toes the entire season.

FAU- I know, torture is not gonna help at all but I want her to wake up somehow. Maybe Henry's abduction and her unlikely alliance with the Charming's/Rumple will start opening her eyes.

Gwen107

I agree and I agree with the others who said they don't like torture scenes too.

For when they give Regina a love interest, I hope it is a new character. From the characters on the show now no one is a good love interest for her in my opinion.

I also think it is not good if the love interest wants to change a person. All the villains (for me Hook is a villain too) must want to change for themselves first! The person who is their love interest can help them, but if they don't want it for themselves and they only do it because their love interest wants it it's not good for them and not good for their loved one too.

ElizaSparrow

Well, sorry hun, but it definitely won't be Hook I like Hook as he is because he's the only one right now (IMO of course^^ ) who brings some fun to the show. I see him more as the "grey area" type character so I don't care if he fails all the time as a villain, it kind of makes him human. But I agree that it'll be good to see him succeed sometimes

Exactly

Belleislove: Yeah, I'm sure that's what he's thinking right now (well, after watching them in the sneak peek ^^) He doesn't know how wrong he is

Rhonwen: I totally agree with everything you just wrote
I didn't mind that much when Rumple took his tongue in FTL as the DO, but I did mind when he started torturing him as Gold in SB for no real reason than his own anger for not having Belle. If the Sheriff of Nottingham doesn't die though, I don't think he's irredeemable, he'd just have to apologize and give him his tongue back, which of course is very, very hard for Rumple, but I could see him going that far eventually

Oh!! I just realized you were talking about him torturing Robin Hood!!! Yeah, I'll admit I didn't like it either, though RH did try to kill him... So, again, I guess there was a reason to it, eventhough of course it doesn't excuse him for it

And continuity is definitely a problem with the Writers

I definitely think there's a way to get Belle back, showing him his good side, or maybe just showing her how much he loves her (the real her ) not sure how that works, but I'm sure there's a way. I definitely think that Charming's advice was a good one eventhough it didn't work immediately

I want to see Hook kick Greg/Tamara's ass too I don't really like them for the moment (though I do like Greg a bit more than Tamara)

Gwen: ITA

Wingster

In other stories Hook gets owned by a 12 year old so...

as for Regina...she's never been on a redemption path. She's just been on a "do whatever Henry wants" path

Rumple...not on one either..but he at least owns that he did bad things

Rhonwen

I dont think the Keith will die. I'm kind of hoping that Rumple heals him and gives him his tongue back. Kind of just dismisses it to Lacey that he doesnt want any more legal trouble. Of course the moment at the car when Gold started his monolgue about no point in being on his best behaviour that's when Keith should have just ran..lol

oh yeh the torture I was talking mostly about Robin Hood. That bugged me. More than the stuff with Keith. Though his beating him in SB out of frustration and anger over Lacey's rejection is wrong.

I hope there's a way, right now I think Gold believes he has to be bad to spark Lacey's interest and that will damn him and most likely his relationship with Belle, for awhile anyway.

But he may have a plan, I think that's been hinted at. I hope, I never expect him or Regina or Hook for that maatter to ever be completely good, that wouldbe no fun. But I would hate to see Rumple fall off the wagon so soon after getting Bae back, and right behind Regina's fall.

The next few episodes look great. I cant wait to see how all this plays out. Except that it will mean summer hiatus then..

ElizaSparrow

I have a question: Who's that on your icon?? I've always wondered

I really hope he won't, that would just be kind of too tragic and too dark even for Rumple IMO
I love the scenario you just wrote, I hope that's what will happen

Yeah, I get how the torturing of RH could have bugged you more. I was just glad he didn't kill him or that RH wasn't really a "villain" as I thought he would be to tell the truth

I really hope he has a plan because this relationship with Lacey definitely won't be good for him
I also think the fun with Regina/Hook/Rumple is that they'll never be completely "good" like Snow or Charming. It's what I like about them. But I really love too when they're fighting to be better persons

Rhonwen

That is what makes them fun. Because you can see how their lives were before, the person they wanted to be. Still want to be. We haven't with hook yet, but that's probably in his back story.

Will we get anymore sneak peaks? I am hoping for some more..

Wingster

Buster Bluth from Arrested Development

Belleislove

It's hard to tell. The photos we have seem to hint that Belle is back to being Belle in the finale, and she's hugging Gold outside his shop and walking with him arm and arm on the docks, looking like Belle, so it may be that whatever he does in the next few episodes doesn't have any kind of detrimental effect on his relationship with Belle.


Doesn't bother me a bit if a person tries to change for another person. And if you love someone you should want them to be the best person possible and not want to kill others. But I'm fine with someone changing "for" another person. They've still changed.

Kelaine

Hook: I'm not trying to rehash the differences of opinion, here. Just, promise me, everyone who accepts Hook as more the swashbuckling pirate hero or anti-hero, if you are ever on a jury and a guy defends himself by saying he wasn't shooting to kill when he shot a girl in the back, YOU WON"T BELIEVE HIM.

Especially if he did it in poor lighting. And if he has a history of violence.

And, promise me, if you ever find yourself alone with a guy who makes crude, sexual remarks about women no matter how inappropriate the circumstances--like, say, to a woman when her husband, a cop, is present and they're investigating the site where he tortured a guy into giving him information on someone he's stated repeatedly he means to kill--you will be dialing 911 and putting as much distance as possible between you.

Regina: I've kind of given up on looking for redemption for Regina. I still don't think she's a sociopath in the strict sense--she is capable of feeling empathy for Henry--but her utter selfishness where everything in the universe is judged by how it impacts her (murder all of SB and not have competition for Henry's affection equals good in her mind) is too much. She could become Mother Teresa right now and I wouldn't turn my back on her. Ever.

FAU

I guess so, but considering he just failed from a weakened Rumple, that's not much of a record to go on.

Yeah, Idk where exactly they're going with her character.

When he's constantly getting thwarted, it becomes repetitive and annoying. Do something with his character at least.

Roswell Dream Girl

Time for a new thread!