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Austenphile 03-31-2018 04:10 PM

OUAT Spoilers & Speculation 479: “As long as we’re together, we will always find a way back home.” ~ Anastasia

Spoilers & Speculations

Season Seven

Welcome to Storybrooke, a small town in Maine that you won’t find on any map. This town is full of magic, populated by fairytale characters once cursed by the Evil Queen Regina to live in our world—deprived of their memories and happy endings. Until Emma Swan came to town and changed everything. With the help of her son, Henry, Emma embraced her true identity as the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming—the Savior destined to break the Curse. But even after returning everyone’s memories, Emma’s mission was far from over. With the Curse broken, Mr. Gold (aka Rumplestiltskin) was free to bring magic to Storybrooke. And magic ALWAYS comes with a price…

After six seasons, the residents of the enchanted forest face their greatest challenge yet as The Evil Queen, Captain Hook and Rumplestiltskin join forces with a grown up Henry Mills and his daughter Lucy on an epic quest to once again bring hope to their world and ours. Along the way, new fairy tale characters and old search for true love, find adventure and once again take sides in the struggle of good against evil, as classic tales are once more twisted and reimagined.

“Once Upon a Time” stars Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Andrew J. West as Henry, Alison Fernandez as Lucy and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

7.18 - " The Guardian " written by David H. Goodman & Bridgette Hales | Airdate: 4/20/18


“The Guardian” – Following Nick’s death, Weaver discovers the Dark One Dagger has been taken and sets out to get it back, even if it means betraying Roni’s trust. Meanwhile, Margot takes Tilly on a date, but their time together takes an unexpected twist. In a flashback, Rumple, desperate to be reunited with Belle, pays Alice a visit, on “Once Upon a Time,” FRIDAY, APRIL 20 (8:00–9:01 p.m. EDT), on The ABC Television Network, streaming and on demand.

“Once Upon a Time” stars Lana Parrilla as Regina/Roni, Robert Carlyle as Rumpelstiltskin/Weaver, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook/Rogers, Andrew J. West as Henry Mills, Dania Ramirez as Cinderella/Jacinda, Alison Fernandez as Lucy and Mekia Cox as Sabine/Tiana.

Guest starring in this episode are Rose Reynolds as Alice/Tilly, Tiera Skovbye as Robin/Margot, Daniel Francis as Dr. Facilier/Mr. Samdi, Nathan Parsons as Nick Branson/Jack and Jeff Pierre as Naveen/Drew.

“The Guardian” was written by David H. Goodman & Brigitte Hales, and directed by Geofrey Hildrew.
  • February 7 - Colin filming x with Jeff Pierre x
  • February 8 - Rose filming at Fremont Troll set x. With Robert x
  • February 8 - Rose and Tiera on location x
  • February 9 - Daniel Francis x
BTS Pics/Videos/Stills:

Tiera and Rose

Promo pics

7.19 - "Flower Child” written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz | Airdate: 4/27/18
  • February 26 - Rose and Colin on location x Emma also there x
BTS Pics/Videos/Stills:

7.20 - "Is This Henry Mills?” written by Dana Horgan & Leah Fong | Airdate: 5/4/18

  • Jared returns as Henry in SB flashback x
  • Beverley returns as Granny x
  • March 5 - Graveyard filming x Lana and Alison x
  • March 5 - Lana and Emma outside Roni’s x
  • Filming at Regina’s SB House x
  • March 6 - Lana as SB Regina in the mansion x with Jared x
  • March 7 - Rose x
  • March 7 - Lana and Emma x
  • March 7 - Emma’s last day filming x
  • March 8 - Filming at UBC x Jared as Henry on college tour x
  • March 8 - Lana and Jared at UBC x
  • March 9 - Daniel x
  • March 9 - Jeff, Tiera, Rose, Alison, Dania and Andrew x
BTS Pics/Videos/Stills:

7.21 - "Homecoming” written by David H. Goodman | Airdate: 5/11/18
  • Jared Gilmore (Henry Mills), Bev Elliott (Granny), Lee Arenberg (Grumpy), Tony Amendola (Geppetto), and Keegan Connor Tracy (Blue Fairy), along with later additions Joanna Garcia (Ariel), Robbie Kay (Peter Pan), Sean Maguire (Robin Hood), and Victoria Smurfit (Cruella de Vil), are all set to return in one or both of the final two episodes of the series. x
  • March 9 - Day 1 x
  • Tiera filming near town line. x With food truck x
  • Jared filming as Young Henry x
  • Lana filming last day at Roni’s x
  • Colin filming x
  • Jared filming in a library x
  • Victoria as Cruella with Lana x
  • Lana as the Evil Queen x
  • Wish World Filming x
  • Keegan filming x
  • Lana and Beverley at Wish World Snowing statue x
  • Colin and Robert filming at a hovel as Rogers and Weaver x
  • Fremont Troll Bridge Filming x
  • Tiera, Rose and Mekia x
  • March 20 - last day this episode x
BTS Pics/Videos/Stills:

7.22 - " Leaving Storybrooke ” written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz | Airdate: 5/18/18

  • Ginny, Josh, Jen and Emilie to return x
  • Sean back and filming with Lana x
  • Possible Steveston Filming March 28 and 29 x
  • Joanna Garcia Swisher back as Ariel x
  • Colin filming in Rogers’ clothing chased by Black Knights on horses. x
  • Andrew in EF clothing on a horse same set. x
  • Jen, Colin and Dania in formal attire x
  • Lana and Bex filmed in SB. Lana wearing Roni’s coat and necklace. x
  • Tiera and Rose chased by dwarves with pic axes. Beverley as Granny x, x
  • Tony as Gepetto x
  • Colin, Andrew, Tiera, Rose, Raphael and Mekia filmed in Steveston x
  • Lana, Ginny, Josh, Robert, Colin, Bex, Andrew, Dania, Tiera and Rose on set x also Jared x
  • Big fancy party scene - Lana, Colin, Bex, Mekia, Alison, Andrew, Dania, Ginny, Josh, Keegan, Rose, Tiera, Chris Gauthier, Jared, Jen’s double. x , x, x, x, x, x, x
  • SERIES FINALE: The Charmings (Ginnifer Goodwin & Josh Dallas) Return to ONCE UPON A TIME For Series Finale
  • Colin and Rose in climbing gearx
BTS Pics/Videos/Stills:

SERIES FINALE: ONCE UPON A TIME in Steveston as Storybrooke With New Hook, New Henry, New Alice, New Robin & Archie

Steveston Photos

Once Upon A Time films series finale scenes with Rebecca Mader, Rose Reynolds & Tiera Skovbye. Bonus appearance - Lana Parrilla

Adam Horowitz & Eddy Kitsis interviews

cast interviews

casting & guest stars
  • Anything on Snow and Charming’s return for the final episode of Once Upon a Time? –Andrew
    Henry’s grandparents have “a critical role to play in the finale,” series co-creator Adam Horowitz shared during my visit to the set, where the ABC series’ very final episode was being filmed. Bonus scoop: Speaking of Henry, what if I told you that Andrew J. West and Jared Gilmore will have a scene with each other before the season as over…? ~ TVLine 4/9/18
  • Any Once Upon a Time scoop? — Aimee
    There will definitely be another life lost during Friday’s episode, and the blame will land squarely on a surprising beloved character. But not everything is as it appears on the surface, sending Rogers and Weaver on an even more desperate mission. ~ EW 3/15/18
  • Question: Any scoop on Once Upon a Time and Gothel’s plan for the Coven of Eight? — Mira
    Ausiello: Only that Gothel’s end game is quite grand — and perhaps thus fitting for the series’ very final conflict. As opposed to a typical supervillain plan, “She wants more than just taking over the world,” co-creator Eddy Kitsis ominously warns. ~ TVLine 3/14/18
  • Once Upon a Time scoop, pretty please. — Ashley
    We’re going to get a wealth of information on the Alice and Robin relationship in episode 14, which will reveal how the two first met. “The whole second half will be exploring the Alice-Robin relationship, so you’ll see them meet and fall in love in flashback,” executive producer Edward Kitsis says. “And you will see them, like Snow and Charming season 1, be cursed, but then pulled together in Hyperion Heights.” ~ EW 3/8/18
  • We haven’t heard anything about Once Upon a Time‘s Rumple in a while! Anything that can be said on what challenges will come up for him in his quest for the Guardian so he can unite with Belle? —Ashley
    “We know that he has a very tough mission, which is to resist his darker impulses so he can keep his heart clean and go back to Belle, and that is going to be challenged,” says co-creator Eddy Kitsis. “Whether as Weaver, as Rumplestiltskin or as Gold, he is the Dark One who wields the most powerful dark magic, and at some point someone’s going to want to take that knife. And so I would say that we’re going to see a couple of people go after him … and it is going to be very tough for him to not punch back.” Bonus scoop: The continuity nerds out there will be happy to know that an upcoming flashback will explain why Rumple was back to his scaly self at the time the new curse hit. ~ TVLine 3/2/18
  • Anything about Rumple and the Guardian please? Rumple’s the only Once Upon a Time character you haven’t asked about during the hiatus, so it’d be great if you asked one about him before Friday’s new episode! — Texas Oncer
    Truly sorry, but I hope I can now over-deliver on the Rumple scoop: “We know that he has a very tough mission, which is to resist his darker impulses, so he can keep his heart clean and go back to Belle,” EP Edward Kitsis says. “That is going to be challenged. The thing is, as Weaver, or as Rumple or Gold, he is The Dark One, which wields the most powerful dark magic, and at some point, someone is going to want to take that knife. We’re going to see a couple people go after him in this second half and it’s going to be very tough for him to not punch back.” The OUAT bosses also promise they will answer why Rumple had reverted to his old self in that midseason flashback. “There’s more scaly Rumple to come, don’t worry,” EP Adam Horowitz adds. ~ EW 3/1/18
  • Once Upon a Time scoop is welcome! — Bryan
    Suzy Joachim (Being Erica) has been tapped to play Madame Leota — ahem — whom I hear is described as a powerful gatekeeper to a haunted house. Not only will we meet the famed character from Disneyland’s Haunted Mansion, but we may also hear some iconic lines parkgoers will recognize. ~ EW 2/22/18
  • Can you tease anything about Once Upon a Time‘s LGBT romance? —Jadis
    Coming off the midseason finale’s reveal that said romance is between Not-Just-of-Wonderland’s Alice and Zelena’s daughter Robin, we will “absolutely” learn how it came to be, says co-creator Eddy Kitsis. “You’re going to see how they met, how they fell in love…. We’re going to show the entire relationship,” he assures. “We just wanted to do a time jump and then fill it out in the second half of the season (arriving Friday, March 2).” ~ TVLine 2/13/18
  • Anything new on the second half of Once Upon a Time Season 7? —Rachel
    As in, the second half of what is now Once‘s final season…? When I saw Mekia Cox at TCA, she previews the introduction of Tiana’s Prince Naveen, who apparently will pop up in Hyperion Heights (played by Beyond‘s Jeff Pierre). “There are some people that Sabine meets that might be familiar to the fans of Princess Tiana’s story — one in particular, who’s a love interest,” she teased. Similarly, Dr. Facilier (played by Daniel Francis) will be resurfacing with a cursed identity of his own. “It’s fitting, I’ll say that!” Cox teased of the soothsayer’s Hyperion Heights vocation. “I really like what they’ve done with his character. I think everyone will be pleased to see what he’s up to.” Bonus scoop: Episode 19, which is titled “Flower Child,” will feature a group of wood nymphs, the leader of which has a daughter who is anxious to explore the human world. ~ TVLine 2/13/18
  • Do you have any details on Regina’s new love interest on Once Upon a Time? — Sarah
    Just that we’re going to find out who the love interest is relatively soon — once the show returns, that is. And, as recently revealed in The Hot Seat, it is someone that we’ve already met on the show. “Roni, we’ll find out, has a past with someone that is complicated,” EP Edward Kitsis teases. Adds EP Adam Horowitz: “It’s hard to tease because the audience will react the way they react. We’re excited about the chemistry we’ve seen and the storytelling that grows out of this relationship we’re going to start to explore in the second half. We don’t really want to give away a lot about what it is right now. We think that it’s a lot of fun.” ~ EW 2/8/18
  • Is Henry going to die on Once Upon a Time? — Patrick
    If the cursed version of Henry knew that sacrificing himself would save Lucy, he would jump at the chance, so there is a strong possibility that could happen. “We saw in the flashback, when Henry was poisoned, that Henry would’ve been 100 percent willing to sacrifice himself for any member of his family, no questions asked,” Andrew J. West says. “Now, in the real world, Henry doesn’t yet know what’s going on, though he’s starting to have an inkling. There’s this child that he really has grown to deeply care about that is lost for the time being, and Henry would do anything in the world to save her, but he just doesn’t know what he can do yet. That’s his struggle. He doesn’t know what it could take, but he’s starting to explore the possibilities that he thought made no sense. Bottom line, he would do anything for his family; he would sacrifice himself if it came down to that.” ~ EW 2/1/18
  • Question: How much longer will Once Upon a Time make us wait for Henry and Jacinda to get together? —Meredith
    Ausiello: In a word, longer. And this is despite Lucy’s brush with death in the midseason finale. “The truthful answer is that I don’t even fully know — I’m a little in the dark on some of this stuff,” Andrew J. West shared with TVLine. “All I can tell you is that when we come back [on Friday, March 2), it’s still going to be pretty fraught with tension between the two of them. There are still issues that have to be overcome.” As for whether Henry himself is finally a True Believer (again), West said, “What we’re starting to see is the dam breaking a bit. But as we’ll see in the episodes to come, there are more hurdles to cross, in terms of getting him all the way ‘there’ to help his family.” ~ TVLine 1/31/18
  • Thanks for all the scoop on the 150th episode of Once Upon a Time, but do you have anything about the hours leading up to it? — Raina
    How about the hour directly before it? Titled “Breadcrumbs,” the 149th episode “is an epic adventure on the high seas with Henry and Hook as they venture into stormy waters more dangerous than they could possibly imagine,” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis tease. ~ EW 1/25/18
  • Will we see any interaction between Once Upon a Time’s Rumple and Zelena? Is their feud still going on? —Rebecca
    Rebecca Mader told me that yes, we will get to see Rumple’s reaction to Zelena’s appearance in Hyperion Heights. “Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They clock each other and they meet again,” she says. As for lingering tensions, “I mean, I accidentally sort of kind of killed his son!” she notes. Meanwhile in the other realm, we’ll get to witness to the first time Zelena laid eyes on Wish Hook, and be properly puzzled. “You see her not really understand who he is and why he is, and it’s a really funny moment. I really liked that scene, and I think the fans will get a kick out of it.” TVLine 1/19/18
  • Aside from the awesomeness that is Lana Parrilla’s directorial debut, any other surprises planned for the 150th episode of Once Upon a Time? — C
    There will be a very big introduction during the hour! “We’ve teased that Zelena has a fiancé, one who she has real feelings for,” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis tell me. “And who better to introduce the audience to that fiancé than the woman playing her big sister, Lana Parrilla in her directing debut.” Also, here’s Lana’s reaction to the big news: “I’m so honored for this opportunity and grateful to have my directorial debut on a show I call home!” ~EW 1/18/18
  • Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
    Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.” ~EW 1/11/18
  • The wait for Once Upon a Time‘s return is killing me! What do you know? — Derek
    The Coven of Eight is not the only threat fans should be worried about in the back half of the season. “The Coven is part of it, but it’s not necessarily hopefully what you expect,” EP Adam Horowitz says. “It’s not just going straight up against them. There’s a twist to it and a threat that comes from another direction.” Here’s a giant clue from EP Edward Kitsis about that other threat: “There is an awake fairy tale character that is out for revenge and starts to exact it in Seattle against people who have no idea what they’re up against,” Kitsis says, noting that said character “has a very specific target.”~ EW 1/4/18
  • I want to see who Zelena is marrying on Once Upon a Time. Is it someone we know, or someone new? —Candace
    Deep into Season 7B, “We are going to meet her (yet-to-be-cast) fiancé, and he is, as she said, someone from the real world,” Once co-created Eddy Kitsis confirms. “The last time we had someone fall in love with someone from the real world, they turned out to be a flying monkey, so we wanted to explore what would it really mean if you fell in love with someone who has no idea you’re the Wicked Witch — and if you told them would think you’re crazy!”~ TVLine 1/2/18
  • What can you tease for Zelena’s return to Once Upon a Time? — Oliver
    Hmm, let’s say you’ll first see her in a place that’s very unexpected. But the reason she returns is far less so. “In times of crisis, you reach out for family,” EP Edward Kitsis says. “Regina’s going to need her sister coming up.” Adds EP Adam Horowitz: “It’s about the strength of the sisters. That relationship becomes front and center and entirely important.”EW ~ 11/9/17
  • Question: What’s next in Once Upon a Time‘s Ivy/Henry relationship? I loved seeing these two interact in the last episode. —Zara
    Ausiello: As you may have surmised by the way Ivy smoldered at Henry over drinks, “She has her sights set on him,” says co-creator Eddy Kitsis. “How he feels about it, we’ll have to wait and see. But she definitely seems like she is interested.” And given the Jacinda/Cinderella of it all, “There is some conflict to come!”

    Question: Is there any chance Naveen from The Princess and the Frog could pop up in Once Upon a Time Season 7? —Lady Tremaine
    Ausiello: Indeed, the ABC series is currently seeking a thirtysomething African-American to fill the role of Naveen, a fun-loving adventurer who hides a tragic past. Series co-creator Adam Horowitz told Matt Mitovich we’ll meet Tiana’s would-be prince in the second half of the season. TVLine ~ 11/3/17
  • Question: Based on what the Once Upon a Time creators said about not ruining happy endings, might it be possible for Emilie de Ravin to appear later on in Season 6? —Betsy
    Ausiello: There are no plans to have Belle’s portrayer back following her Friday, Oct. 27 encore, “but that’s not to say that we won’t,” says Eddy Kitsis, noting: “We’re only halfway through [writing] the season.” Instead, find solace in the fact that Episode 4, titled “Beauty,” is being buzzed about as one of the fantasy drama’s very best hours, detailing as it does what happened to Rumple, Belle and their son after getting their happy ending in the May finale. But, how does Giles Matthey figure into it, as grown Gideon? “We don’t want to give away what’s happening in the plot,” says co-creator Adam Horowitz, “but you’ll get a deep dive into the Rumbelle life and what they’re doing with their child.”
    TVLine 10/19/17
  • Bonus scoop: In case you missed it, in the latest Ask Ausiello Live I shared that Once‘s winter finale will introduce a twentysomething female who is A) related to someone we know and B) will be a love interest to a character we’ll see this season.

    I am a huge Once Upon A Time fan, and was also a fan of Reign. Would you happen to have any scoop on Adelaide Kane as Drizella? –Marcos
    As both Drizella and Hyperion Heights’ Ivy, “She definitely puts the wicked in wicked stepsister, I can tell you that much,” Kitsis answers. “She’s not one to be underestimated — and certain characters make that mistake.” TVLine 10/12/17
  • Once Upon A Time EPs Talk About The New "Book," "Roni" & Returning Faces | KSiteTV ~ 8/09/2017
  • Once Upon a Time: Showrunners Answer 15 Burning Season 7 Fan Questions - IGN ~ 8/12/2017
  • New set ~ A. Horowitz
  • Once Upon a Time: Everything we know about season 7 so far ~ EW 7/03/2017
  • Once Upon a Time Season 7: Everything We Know So Far ~ TVLine 7/01/2017

Andrew J. West as Henry Mills
Alison Fernandez as Lucy
Gabrielle Anwar as Lady Tremaine
Dania Ramirez as Cinderella
Adelaide Kane as Drisella, wicked step-sister
Mekia Cox as Tiana
Rose Reynolds as Alice in Wonderland
Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina
Colin O'Donoghue as Captain Hook
Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold

ABC: Official Character Bios

Adam Horowitz, executive producer and writer | twitter
Andrew Chambliss, writer | twitter
Tze Chun, writer | twitter
Jane Espenson, writer | twitter
Leah Fong, writer| twitter
David H. Goodman, writer
Brigitte Hales, writer | twitter
Dana Horgan, writer | twitter
Robert Hull, writer
Paul Karp, writer | twitter | sdcc
Daniel T. Thomsen, writer
Bill Wolkoff, writer | twitter

Mark Isham, composer | twitter
Sarah McCulloch, production Leaf Lady | twitter
Jerome Schwartz, production | twitter
Helga Ungurait, production | twitter
Geoffrey Hildrew, post-production | twitter

Twitter: @OnceABC,
ABC Publicity: twitter
ABC TV: Once Upon A Time

Hashtags: #OnceUponATime

D23 Expo in Anaheim 2017 - July 14-16th
Panel video

San Diego Comic Con 2017 - July 20-23rd
Comic-Con 2017: The Complete TV Lineup

The panel interview:
Video Interviews:
TCA2017 - OUAT panel: source | report 'Once Upon a Time' could run for 'multiple years,' per ABC chief

New York Comic Con 2017 - October 6th
panel with Adam Horowitz, Edward Kitsis and Lana Parrilla


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Official Season Three promotional | Season Three Posters
Official Season Four Posters and Promotional Material
Official Season Five Posters and Promotional Material
Official Season Six Posters and Promotional Material:
Long Live the Queen | OUAT Musical/Wedding Episode

Official Season Seven Posters and Promotional Material

"We're going to switch to water." ~Emma "What, for drinking?" ~Hook
“Guilt can be as corrosive to the soul as revenge.“ ~ Captain Nemo
"Seek forgiveness. Because whatever happened, it will always stay with you." ~ Captain Nemo
"When it's not your story, bad things happen."
"Just because life isn't what you want it to be right now, doesn't mean you tear it down."
"Things can seem hopeless. When suddenly, someone, gives the rest of us...inspiration."
"Because the first step to a new beginning is imagining that one is even possible."
"New loves, familiar faces and exciting adventures."
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scififan2009 03-31-2018 04:17 PM

I’m just saying, these witches are clearly evil. Let’s not pretend like Detective Weaver hasn’t killed or attempted to kill out of vengeance before (eg. Tamara, Zelena, Fiona).

Instead of worrying about trying to stop Nick they should be focused on trying to stop the real threat, which Gothel poses to all of them.


Austenphile 03-31-2018 04:21 PM

SuitUp 03-31-2018 04:33 PM

Tftnt and tweet. :)

fox24 03-31-2018 05:00 PM


scorpio_chick 03-31-2018 05:36 PM

So 7 episodes left and still not one meaningful scene between Henry and Rumple. That scene of Rumple threatening Facilier over his family made me roll my eyes tbh because he has a grandson and great granddaughter he's barely mentioned or shown any concern for this season. And I don't mind Rumbelle at all but the writers have done such a disservice to Rumple and his history by neglecting his ties to Neal. Yes, it looks like he's interacting with Henry next week but eh, won't get my hopes up that that'll amount to much. The fact that even Wish Hook/Henry is getting more focus... :pout:

On another note, I really want a Regina/Facilier centric. With each episode Facilier is in, the desire grows stronger. :sigh: lol

sherry02 03-31-2018 05:54 PM



Originally Posted by scorpio_chick (Post 93496273)
So 7 episodes left and still not one meaningful scene between Henry and Rumple. That scene of Rumple threatening Facilier over his family made me roll my eyes tbh because he has a grandson and great granddaughter he's barely mentioned or shown any concern for this season. And I don't mind Rumbelle at all but the writers have done such a disservice to Rumple and his history by neglecting his ties to Neal. Yes, it looks like he's interacting with Henry next week but eh, won't get my hopes up that that'll amount to much. The fact that even Wish Hook/Henry is getting more focus... :pout:

On another note, I really want a Regina/Facilier centric. With each episode Facilier is in, the desire grows stronger. :sigh: lol

I would really love some interaction between Rumple and Henry and Rumple and Lucy.

What do you think about Facilier's motivations? Does he really want to help Regina? Is this going to cost her something later? I'm suspicious because he gave her the same line he gave Tiana about a smile on her face being enough. I've seen a lot of people that believe he genuinely cares about her.

scififan2009 03-31-2018 06:13 PM

It’s not gonna last. He’s not in the finale.

sherry02 03-31-2018 06:19 PM

I'm aware of that. I'm wondering about his motivations, not whether or not it's going to last.

scififan2009 03-31-2018 06:34 PM

Nick centric next week
Zelena centric
Gold centric
Gothel centric
Henry centric
Last two episodes

Where’s the room for all this Facilier stuff? I honestly wonder.

scorpio_chick 03-31-2018 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by sherry02 (Post 93496429)

I would really love some interaction between Rumple and Henry and Rumple and Lucy.

What do you think about Facilier's motivations? Does he really want to help Regina? Is this going to cost her something later? I'm suspicious because he gave her the same line he gave Tiana about a smile on her face being enough. I've seen a lot of people that believe he genuinely cares about her.

I think he's being genuine. I mean, I understand why some would still doubt him but imo, it would be too much of a letdown for this to all be part of some ulterior motive. It's not as if the writers haven't been beating the "Facilier is evil" drum. The only real surprising twist is if his desire for the DO dagger isn't rooted in some evil motivation. And what is the point in having Regina question him, then let her guard down, only for him to betray her? That just seems cruel and unnecessary, especially with the show ending.

sherry02 03-31-2018 08:19 PM

I don't think they will fit in a backstory for Facilier and Regina. They probably would have gotten to that in season 8, but since there will be no season 8, we'll likely never know anything more about their past than what we know now. Since 7x20 appears to be his last episode, I wonder what circumstances lead to them going their separate ways. Hopefully not another death.

If I remember filming spoilers correctly, Gothel is not expected to appear in the next 3 episodes, which seems odd.

scififan2009 03-31-2018 08:25 PM

Maybe once they knew they weren’t getting renewed they decided to drop the Gothel and Facilier arcs and focus the last 3 on ending the series.

scorpio_chick 03-31-2018 09:48 PM

They clearly haven't dropped any arcs, at least not with Facilier. I'm pretty sure we'll find out what he wants with the dagger and they'll wrap up his story with Regina. A centric would be nice but he doesn't need one for us to see closure with those developments.

lucas 35 04-01-2018 05:21 AM

I do not know why you think Rumple cares about Henry. So many times he tried to kill him and his family. Rumple betrayed the characters at least once a season, at the end of last season he had betrayed the characters, he only became a hero because the black fairy betrayed him first

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