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Season 6




Welcome to Storybrooke, a small town in Maine that you won’t find on any map. This town is full of magic, populated by fairytale characters once cursed by the Evil Queen Regina to live in our world—deprived of their memories and happy endings. Until Emma Swan came to town and changed everything. With the help of her son, Henry, Emma embraced her true identity as the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming—the Savior destined to break the Curse. But even after returning everyone’s memories, Emma’s mission was far from over. With the Curse broken, Mr. Gold (aka Rumplestiltskin) was free to bring magic to Storybrooke. And magic ALWAYS comes with a price…

When Regina split herself in an attempt to eliminate her evil half, she unwittingly released the Evil Queen. Now the Evil Queen is back and ready to leave a trail of destruction in her wake. Meanwhile, Regina is quickly learning that destroying her dark side won’t be that easy, especially when dealing with the consequences of having unleashed the Queen on Storybrooke. Emma learns a life-altering secret that could have serious consequences for her family and loved ones. While the heroes grapple with what Emma is confronting, Henry welcomes the new arrivals from the Land of Untold Stories by pledging to help them complete their tales. But when Snow White, Prince Charming, Regina, Captain Hook and Zelena become entwined in these untold tales, they find themselves haunted by their own unfinished pasts. Meanwhile, after handing Storybrooke over to Mr. Hyde, Mr. Gold continues his quest to wake Belle from her self-induced sleeping curse, in hopes of reuniting with both her and their unborn child.

“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Rebecca Mader as Wicked Witch/Zelena and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.



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6.11 - "Tougher Than The Rest" written by Adam Horowitz & Eddy Kitsis, directed by Billy Gierhart | Airdate: March 5, 2017


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6.12 - "Murder Most Foul" written by Jerome Schwartz & Jane Espenson, directed by Morgan Beggs | Airdate: March 12, 2017
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Nov 9 - Steveston: katmtan HQ album
Nov 15 - Emma's House: katmtan HQ album

6.13 - "Ill-Boding Patterns" written by Andrew Chambliss & Dana Horgan, directed by Ron Underwood | Airdate: March 19, 2017
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6.14 - "Page 23" written by David H. Goodman & Brigitte Hales, directed by Kate Woods | Airdate: March 26, 2017
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6.15 - "A Wondrous Place" written by Jane Espenson & Jerome Schwartz, directed by Steve Pearlman | Airdate: April 2, 2017
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6.16 - "Mother's Little Helper" written by E. Kitsis & A. Horowitz / Teleplay by: Paul Karp, directed by Billy Gierhart | Airdate: April 9, 2017
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6.17 - "Awake" written by Andrew Chambliss & Leah Fong, directed by Sharat Raju | Airdate: April 16, 2017
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6.18 - "Where Bluebirds Fly" written by David H. Goodman & Brigitte Hales, directed by Michael Schultz | Airdate: April 23, 2017
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6.19 - "The Black Fairy" written by Jerome Schwartz & Dana Horgan, directed by Alrick Riley | Airdate: April 30, 2017
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6.20 - "The Song In Your Heart" written by David H. Goodman & Andrew Chambliss, directed by Ron Underwood | Airdate: May 7, 2017
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6.21 - "TBA" written by | Airdate: May 14, 2017
  • Casting news:
    a “strong yet vulnerable” leading man in his late 20s to mid-30s, a gent who was once optimistic and hopeful but now is a friendless, cynical recluse. That said, he still possesses a dormant, deep-seated speak of hope that waits for the right person to reignite it.
    The other role being cast is a precocious 10-year-old with a “constant twinkle of mischief in her eye.” And though this girl comes from a broken home, those struggles have only made her stronger — something which will come in handy when darkness threatens “everything she holds dear.”
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6.22 - "TBA" written by | Airdate: May 14, 2017
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Adam Horowitz & Eddy Kitsis interviews



cast interviews


casting & guest stars



general season 6 spoilers
  • Can you reveal when Snow and Charming will both be awake on Once Upon a Time? — Miley
    I cannot reveal when, but I can give you a tease about how. “The manner by which they are brought out of the sleeping curse is moving,” Ginnifer Goodwin tells me. “I became emotional every time I read the script and it has nothing really to do with David or me.” EW - 1/10/2017
  • Once Upon a Time Eyes Musical Episode for Spring — Who Will Sing?
  • Anything that can be teased on what Rumple and Belle will have to do in order to save Gideon on Once Upon a Time? — AshMarie
    Remember when Rumple said that time works wonky in the Dark Realm? The question then becomes: Can Rumple and Belle actually prevent Gideon’s future if they find his younger self? “That is the question of the second half of the season,” EP Edward Kitsis says. “That is exactly what we are going to explore.” EW - 1/6/17
  • Is it me or is Once Upon a Time visiting far too many realms this year? — Sarah
    Yes, the show will be jumping around between the wish realm, Storybrooke, Agrabah, and the dark realm in the back half of the season, but the frequent flyer miles that OUAT is going to rack up aren’t what you’re expecting. “The second half of the season isn’t like ‘We’re all in the wish realm, we’re all in Agrabah, we’re all in this dark realm,‘” EP Adam Horowitz says. “It’s a bunch of different things as the story crescendos. We’re trying to change things up a little bit where it’s not just ‘We’re going to be in one place for half a season and just explore that.’ There’s a unifying theme at play in the second half, but it’s not about location, it’s about this story and the conflict between characters.” EW - 12/23/16
  • Question: How long will the Snow and Charming curse last on Once Upon a Time? —Shelly
    Ausiello: The sleeping curse that afflicts the marrieds one at a time “is not something that stretches out for the rest of the season,” says co-creator Eddy Kitsis. But until it is lifted, “We’re going to see that toll that it takes on Charming, who toward the end of the [fall] run looked sleep-deprived, going dark and off the rails. Without his ‘calming center’ around, and without much sleep, he can get into some real trouble!” TVLine - 12/20/16
  • On Once Upon a Time, how many episodes will the Snowing curse last? — SnowingFan
    Unfortunately, it’s going to be a while. The pressure of the curse paired with Charming being ready to kill the Evil Queen and the lingering question of what really happened to his father means David is not doing OK. “What we’re seeing through David is somebody who is at his wits end,” EP Edward Kitsis says. “This curse with his wife, I think that what we’re seeing is that he’s staying up too late. Without Snow, you’re seeing him starting to give into darker impulses. We’re going to see him have to confront his own demons.” EW - 12/16/16
  • Why doesOnce Upon a Time Once Upon a Time‘s Gideon wants to kill Emma? Is it because she’s the Savior, or does he have his own reasons? —Rebecca
    “‘Why does he need to kill her?’ is the real question,” says co-creator Eddy Kitsis — but we will have to wait (many weeks) for the answer. Until then, Adam Horowitz previews, “We pick up with that [pawn shop] scene, and Gold and Belle will articulate some of the questions that our viewers have” — including: “What happened to Gideon? Why is he seemingly after Emma? And in her vision, what is motivating him?” — “and most of that stuff gets answered pretty quickly.” (For more on Once, I teased Episode 12 in this week’s Ask Ausiello Live.) TVLine - 12/13/16 the 6x12 tease was that the mystery of who killed David's father will wrap up around Easter
  • Question: Will we see Once Upon a Time‘s Black Fairy again? Will we also get an explanation as to why she steals babies and what happens to them afterwards? —Rebecca
    Ausiello: Coming out of that fall finale, this comes as little surprise: “We are going to see a lot more of the Black Fairy (played by Jaime Murray),” series cocreator Adam Horowitz assures, “exploring her both in the past and present and learning more about Rumple’s relationship to his mother and the strange land from which she hails.”
    Question: I know I’m not the only one who caught The Dragon mentioning a daughter in Once Upon a Time Episode 8. Have the showrunners said anything lately about when Lily and Maleficent will be back? Or whether Emma will keep her promise to help Lily find her father? —Sabrina
    Ausiello: In a word, “No,” that Dragon (played by Tzi Ma) has nothing to do with the mystery of Lily’s father, the series cocreators confirmed for Matt Mitovich. “We had high hopes” to revisit that story in Season 6, Eddy Kitsis shared, “but we just won’t get to it.” TVLine - 12/7/16
  • I’m bummed Once Upon a Timeabout the Once Upon a Time winter finale (airing this Sunday), because it looks like Emma and Hook won’t be together in the fairytale world. Got any good CaptainSwan scoop? —Alison
    “Whether Emma and Hook are together in the winter finale isn’t the question to be asking,” responds co-creator Adam Horowitz. “The real question to ask is: Will the two of them be embarking on an epic adventure filled with romance, danger and passion in the second half of the season? And the answer is… yes.” TVLine - 12/1/16
  • Pretty pretty please, something about Once Upon a Time? Particularly about Rumbelle? —Valeria
    As relayed by yours truly in this week’s Facebook Live edition of “Ask Ausiello,” Onceco-creator Adam Horowitz had this to say about the piece I did juxtaposing Disney’s Beauty and the Beast trailer with the sad, sad state of their Storybrooke iterations: “The audience doesn’t know where we’re headed with Belle and Rumple, but no matter how dark things get, the show doesn’t go bleak. It’s still about hope, and it’s always darkest before the dawn.” If you are now thinking, as I am, “Gee, ‘dawn’ then must be right around the corner,” I am hearing the next episode, airing Nov. 27, is in fact quite a game changer for Rumple and/or Belle. TVLine - 11/15/16
  • Question: Any hints about who’s in the hood on Once Upon a Time, killing Emma? —Courtney
    Ausiello: Well, if you re-watch that fleeting vision very, very carefully, and take note of the hooded character’s height and build… you will glean nothing, actually. “It was a stand-in used for that scene,” and not the actual actor that will eventually be revealed as wearing the hood, Colin O’Donoghue confirms. As for whether he or any other cast members know the identity of Emma’s killer, if only becayse the Once bosses have made it pretty clear they had someone locked in from go, “We might have an idea…,” O’Donoghue teased, “but we’re not gonna tell you!” TVLine ~ 11/4/16
  • Is Charming really going down a dark path of vengeance on Once Upon a Time? — Brett
    There’s potential, but OUAT won’t pick up that story immediately. “We know he’s tempted,” EP Edward Kitsis tells me. “It’s not something that’s going to come to the forefront right away. It’s something he is clearly thinking about. I would be really disappointed if we didn’t pick it up and at least find out the answer by the end of the season.” EP Adam Horowitz concurs: “That story is not over. David has made a decision by not burning [the evidence] to pursue it. How he pursues it and when he pursues it, we’ll see as the season progresses. But he’s certainly wrestling with something, and how it impacts inversely in his relationships with Snow and his family is part of the story, as well as the ultimate answer to the mystery.” EW ~ 10/28/16
  • Is anything coming up for Once Upon a Time‘s Snow and Charming? —Camilla
    And how! With the Evil Queen poised to make a move on the person she hates most, “the shared heart between Snow and Charming comes into play,” series co-creator Adam Horowitz teases, “as they are bonded in this new battle.”
    Might we see Belle’s mother again on Once Upon a Time? —Betsy
    I presented your Q to the show bosses, and there are “no immediate plans” to revisit that character. TVLine ~ 10/27/16
  • Question: Do you have any Once Upon a Time spoilers that concern “Snowing”? —Lyss
    Ausiello: In addition to the well-reported drama to be drummed up by the Evil Queen, Snow and David will at least attempt to get a better bead on their own “happily ever after,” now that Neverland, memory wipes and Hell are behind them. In Season 6, “They’re back in Storybrooke, trying to make a life for themselves there,” says co-creator Adam Horowitz, “so we’re trying to dig more into what daily life is, what normal is.” And as that regards the princess and prince, “In an early episode, you’re going to see Snow White ask the question, ‘What is normal? And how do we get back to it?’ That’s something that she and Charming strive toward.” TVLine ~ 9/26/2016
  • What other news characters are we going to meet on Once Upon a Time besides the Count, Aladdin, Jasmine and Captain Nemo? — Jose
    When Cinderella returns in season 6, we’re going to meet her evil stepmom and stepsisters. Much like the first time she appeared on the show, Cinderella’s story will be a reflection of what’s going on with Emma. “That was Emma’s first happy ending she actually returned,” EP Edward Kitsis says. “That was the very first time that Emma, at the end of it, decided to stay in Storybrooke. She saw herself through Cinderella. Now we’re in a situation where what if someone could undo all the happiness you’ve done, would your life matter? [She’s] faced with somebody out there that’s trying to undo the ones [she has] done.” EW ~ 9/23/2016
  • What’s next for Once Upon a Time‘s Hook and Emma? —Allison
    In the Season 6 premiere, “We pick up pretty directly from where we left them at the end of last season, where for the first time Emma professed her love without the duress of a life-or-death situation,” co-creator Adam Horowitz reminds. “Of course, life-or-death situations come pretty quickly on our show, so that will change.” As EP Eddy Kitsis in turn notes, “No relationship is a fairytale. So if people are expecting no drama, we hope that they will enjoy what we are showing.” TVLINE ~ 9/14/2016
  • Anything on the Regina-Emma-Snow relationship on Once Upon a Time? — Mara
    It certainly won’t be easy with the Evil Queen waging war on Storybrooke. “You get to see that this really is a family that has come together,” EP Edward Kitsis says. “Henry’s dream in the beginning was to bring everyone together, and in a lot of ways he has, but this year they’re going to be tested from their past. If there’s one thing the Evil Queen hates it’s Snow White — Snow White and other people’s happiness.” EW ~ 9/16/16
  • Anything Once Upon a Time related? If you can give me CaptainSwan info, I’ll be grateful. — Shannon
    The show will be diving more into Hook’s past as his relationship with Emma moves forward. “Last year we saw Emma saying I love you to him when they weren’t in any sort of danger,” EP Adam Horowitz says. “Hook is excited to progress that relationship. At the same time, he is on his path of redemption, and we are going to see Hook doing his best to be heroic this year.” TVLine ~ 8/31/2016
  • Do you have any scoop about Snow White and Prince Charming from Once Upon a Time? — SnowingFan
    Would it make you happy if I told you that the OUAT bosses say they want to see a lot of Snow and Charming this year? “Charming has always had questions about his family and his father that he thought were answered,” EP Adam Horowitz says. “Charming’s past becomes something very important to his future. We’re going to see him and Snow embarking on some adventure related to that past, and what that’s going to create for them moving forward, which is some unexpected obstacles to that happy ending they’re all trying to live.” EW ~ 9/02/2016
  • Is there anything Adam Horowitz can tell us about Rumbelle during season 6 of Once Upon a Time? — rumbelletrueluv
    What if I let Emilie de Ravin tell you about Belle getting out of the box? “The way she is extracted, how it happens and the characters that are involved is really cool, and it reveals a lot about her relationship and her past/future,” de Ravin says, noting that the show will explore more of Belle’s independence this season. “It’s been a long time coming. Now that she’s pregnant, and now that she knows that it’s not really just about her anymore, she has to take responsibility for this other little person. That’s making her head spin a little bit with regard to, ‘Okay, I can spend my life trying to fix this person, whether it’s for me or for him, but if it’s affecting someone else now, it’s a game changer.’ It puts a little bit of spanner in the works for their marriage for a bit. There’s some alone time to be had.” EW ~ 7/29/16
  • I’d like some Once Upon a Time spoilers please. — Jane
    The introduction of the Land of Untold Stories basically opens up storytelling avenues to, well, “everyone,” according to Edward Kitsis. “What’s funny is in the pilot if you watch when Emma sees the wolf that stops her from leaving town, the book flips open and we see all these worlds,” Kitsis says. “It’s time to tell new stories, broaden the show and move forward.” As for why these stories have not yet been told, Kitsis points to something Hyde said in the finale: “As he said, I need a place where these stories can play out, which would make me think for some reason they weren’t being played out, they were pushed on pause.” EW ~ 7/8/16
  • Thanks for the Evil Queen scoop! Anything more you can share on Once Upon a Time? — Virginia
    The Land of Untold Stories will provide a new avenue into the characters we’ve come to know and love over the last five seasons. “The intent is that these new characters and new stories are really a reflection on what’s going on inside of our characters,” says EP Adam Horowitz. “With Lana and the Evil Queen, that’s the starkest example, which we’ve already teased. We’re literally going inside her and pulling her apart. There are elements of that that we’re planning to do for each and everyone of the characters.” EW ~ 7/1/16
  • Do you have any scoop on what’s going to happen to Once Upon a Time‘s Belle and Rumple? Will they be going on an adventure for the first time together? —Rebecca
    They will be going on an adventure together… or as “together” as they can be with Belle still stashed inside a decorative container. “Belle is with Rumple — she’s in Pandora’s Box, in the sleeping curse,” says Once co-creator Eddy Kitsis. And as the Season 6 premiere will make clear, Rumple did get said box back, as part of his deal with Mr. Hyde. As for where the “information” Hyde delivered in return will lead the couple, “That will be the mystery that we show you,” Kitsis says. Adds co-creator Adam Horowitz: “What we really focus on at the start is: ‘How the heck does he get her out of the box and wake her?'” TVLine ~ 6/30/16
  • Will any of the untold stories on Once Upon a Time hold a connection to any of the characters? — lennyukpirate1
    That’s TBD, but the arrival of characters from the Land of Untold stories will certainly affect those in Storybrooke. “The condition of life in Storybrooke is very important,” EP Adam Horowitz says. “Hyde’s arrival impacts that. We’re planning to explore a lot of what that’s going to mean for the day-to-day life in Storybrooke.” Adds EP Edward Kitsis: “One of the things that we really want to get back to this year is that season 1 and 2 vibe of small town stories, being in Storybrooke and getting back to Mary Margaret as the teacher, Emma as the sheriff, Grumpy as the janitor.” EW - 6/24/16
  • What will happen to Emma and Hook in season 6 of Once Upon a Time? — Niamh
    If you recall, when Emma and Hook reunited in the finale, there was a wedding dress in the background. Ahead of the Dead of Summerpanel at ATX, I asked the guys point-blank if this means wedding bells will ring in season 6. They stayed very coy on the subject. “I would say you’ll have to watch season 6, you never know what’s going to happen,” EP Edward Kitsis replied. “You never know what’s going to happen with those two.” Fear not, they answered a few other season 6 questions, so check Spoiler Room next week for more! EW - 6/17/16
  • Any news on Once Upon a Time season 6? — Carole
    Aside from the fact that we’ll be getting a double dose of Regina next season, Lana Parrilla has a number of questions about season 6: “Will Baby Robin be magical?” she tells me. “Will Zelena and Regina continue to have a healthy relationship now that they’ve reconciled? Or will Regina end up hating Zelena for being the mother to Robin’s baby? I’m curious to see what’s going to end up happening in that regard. Will she end up growing resentful that she can’t have children, but yet her sister has her boyfriend’s baby? I feel like that’s a story to be told. Are they going to stand side-by-side in a sisterhood or is Regina going to grow resentful overtime?” EW - 6/10/16
  • Season 6 filming: July 7, 2016 to March 31, 2017







cast
Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret
Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan
Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina
Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David
Emilie de Ravin as Belle
Colin O'Donoghue as Captain Hook
Jared Gilmore as Henry Mills
Rebecca Mader as Zelena
Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold



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conventions

San Diego Comic Con 2016 - July 21-24th

Articles about the panel:
Video Interviews:
archive SDCC 2014
archive 2015 conventions: SDCC, D23, NYCC
NY Comic Con 2016 - October 7th Panel
Articles about the panel

aTVfest - February 2

Panel: Part 1, Part 2

crew
Adam Horowitz, executive producer and writer | twitter
Andrew Chambliss, writer | twitter
Tze Chun, writer | twitter
Jane Espenson, writer | twitter
Leah Fong, writer| twitter
David H. Goodman, writer
Brigitte Hales, writer | twitter
Dana Horgan, writer | twitter
Robert Hull, writer
Paul Karp, writer | twitter | sdcc
Daniel T. Thomsen, writer
Bill Wolkoff, writer | twitter


Mark Isham, composer | twitter
Sarah McCulloch, production Leaf Lady | twitter
Jerome Schwartz, production | twitter
Helga Ungurait, production | twitter
Geoffrey Hildrew, post-production | twitter

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Official Season Two Posters | Show Posters
Official Season Three promotional | Season Three Posters
Official Season Four Posters and Promotional Material
Official Season Five Posters and Promotional Material

Official Season Six Posters and Promotional Material

Long Live the Queen

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We've been on the sidelines too long, sister, missed too many adventures. Now it's embarrassing. ~Leroy

"Come on kid, it's Arizona. It's not hell." ~ Cleo Fox

"I still have a fist. Gold still has a nose." ~Regina
"Well, we're certainly not in Storybrooke anymore." ~Zelena
"Do you happen to have any duct tape?" ~ Zelena
"The Evil Queen is inside me always trying to get out." ~Regina

That's why you never, ever hear these words about a Savior. "They lived happily ever after." ~Jafar
I want to start a new story. One where the Evil Queen doesn't get a part. ~Regina


"She got what she deserved" - Charming
"Put it away. This family is done fighting" - Snow
"Do you trust me?" "Always princess" - Jasmine/Aladdin
"What have we done to each other" - Belle
"I vowed to destroy their happiness if it is the last thing I do." - Regina
"We all make mistakes. It doesn't change who we are." - Hook
"You are also my mom." - Henry
"Every Savior needs a villain." - Rumple

Singing princess Emma isn't my favorite model. -Regina
We don't stand around and talk about what happens when a bloody genie appears, mate! -Hook
Bring it, Queenie. -Regina
Off to raze some fake villages. – Rumpelstiltskin





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YW! I think I got all the spoilers updated but let me know if I missed something
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I really hope it's not the spec about snow finding out that hook murdered charmings father cause that will really make snow look bad.

It would make her look like a massive hypocrite because the person she treats better then her own freaking daughter murdered many people she loved including her father.

So I really hope that's not the case cause it's gonna paint snow in a really bad light imo. You can forgive Regina but not Hook? Get out of here with that crap.
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Wow! Hook might have committed murder of Charming's father but Charming's wife isn't allowed to get mad at the person who caused her husband so much suffering even for a minute. Because she forgave someone who hurt her 30 plus years ago and who she had a prior 20+ year familial history. Once victim blaming starts again. I guess Charming wouldn't be allowed to be mad at his Dad's killer either if it was Hook. But if it's George then it's fine to be mad.

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"If" Hook killed Charming's father, of course they both should be angry with him. Who wouldn't be? Not saying they wouldn't get over it because yes, they seem to have gotten over what Regina did but the first reaction would of course be one of anger. That's only natural. I personally don't agree with how they've forgiven Regina, but that's just me.

I like Hook a lot but I'm not sure why he should be given a free pass on this. Because it happened a long time ago? Rumple hasn't gotten a free pass from a lot of people because of stuff that happened hundreds of years ago.


And no, that would not make Snow look really bad. AT all.

It's only natural that they would be upset. That being said, we have no idea what is going on in this scene at all.

ETA: Katmtan says filming on 19 starts tomorrow. So where is that title, LOL?

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Wow! Hook might have committed murder of Charming's father but Charming's wife isn't allowed to get mad at the person who caused her husband so much suffering even for a minute. Because she forgave someone who hurt her 30 plus years ago and who she had a prior 20+ year familial history. Once victim blaming starts again. I guess Charming wouldn't be allowed to be mad at his Dad's killer either if it was Hook. But if it's George then it's fine to be mad.
Hook murdering charmings father of that's the case happened a long time ago. It's not fresh it's not new. So if Snow can forgive Regina for murdering her father than she better be able to forgive Hook. Otherwise she's a massive hypocrite.

But I get it precious woegina can't possibly be at fault of anything and snow sees at that way. Why else would she treat the murderer better than her own freaking daughter.
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I guess I'm not seeing the big deal here.

Of course their natural reaction would be one of anger. That doesn't mean they wouldn't get over it.

You honestly think Snow and Charming should say "Oh, you killed Charming's dad? That's okay. You've changed."

Snow didn't forgive Regina that quickly either so what's the big deal?

And Rumple killing Milah happened a long time ago, even longer than Charming's dad was killed and Hook has never forgiven him sooooo....I'm not sure what the fact that it happened a long time ago has to do with anything.

I think in the long run, if this is what happened, they'll see that Hook has changed and he's not the man he was and they will be able to get past it. But again, is there some reason to think that this is what Snow is upset about?
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I guess I'm not seeing the big deal here.

Of course their natural reaction would be one of anger. That doesn't mean they wouldn't get over it.

You honestly think Snow and Charming should say "Oh, you killed Charming's dad? That's okay. You've changed."

Snow didn't forgive Regina that quickly either so what's the big deal?

And Rumple killing Milah happened a long time ago, even longer than Charming's dad was killed and Hook has never forgiven him sooooo....I'm not sure what the fact that it happened a long time ago has to do with anything.

I think in the long run, if this is what happened, they'll see that Hook has changed and he's not the man he was and they will be able to get past it. But again, is there some reason to think that this is what Snow is upset about?
Well yeah that's how they've been with Regina in present day. They didn't know Hook in the past so they shouldn't have the same kind of anger they had back then for Regina with Hook.

Be mad at him but if this goes on longer than an episode I call BS. Cause then it looks like they can forgive Regina but not Hook.

I know Emma is obviously on Hooks side and she should be. He's her true love and her parents barely pay her any mind. I mean instead of console and talk to her they tell her to go see a psychiatrist.

Oh but Regina oh Regina gets all the special treatment around.
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I know that many of you are going to jump in the neck for what I am going to say, but if hook killer the father of David and Snow does not forgive it would seem to me of hypocrite, because she also did bad things, like what she did with the daughter of Maleficient , Emma forgives her and David, I take some episodes but forgive them.

Hook was a villain, that no one can deny and murder many including his own father, but Regina was also a villain and Snow forgive, Rumple is still a villain but many apologize to him for the curse of the dark.

What I want to say is that in this program all the characters are gray, neither totally white nor totally black.

And one last thing we still do not know if Hook kills David's father, they are all speculations, and some are giving them as an absolute truth, and that is not true yet.
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I have massive problems with the Snow and Regina relationship but the short story is that Snow feels guilty for everything Regina did because Snow inadvertently led to Daniel's death. Plus Regina has been a mother figure to Snow since Snow was 10 years old. Snow treats her like her mother which is of course different and less whatever word you want to use for critical, judgmental, etc than one treats their child.

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They sent Archie to talk to Emma because she had already refused to talk to Hook in their earshot. And Emma is not someone who would want to in her mind burden her family by saying what was wrong with her. They tried talking with her after the UW to get her to grieve and she blew them off. It is completely different than talking with Regina who has no problems sharing her emotions and with whom there is 50+ years of history including the missing year where they all bonded and the forgiveness finally occurred.

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Well, I think this would put Emma in an awkward situation as well.

But we don't know this is what will happen. And Snow was mad at Regina for more than episode. I don't think that's fair to blame Snow and Charming for their reactions to this.

And I get that you don't like Regina. Honestly, I don't care for her either and think she's been forgiven way too easily and certainly this season has been overload to the point of almost no return for me, lol, but we should probably wait and see what happens. This particular story really has nothing to do with her as far as I can see.


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And one last thing we still do not know if Hook kills David's father, they are all speculations, and some are giving them as an absolute truth, and that is not true yet
That is true, we don't know anything yet.
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