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Old 05-11-2015, 10:55 PM
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I think Charmed did an AU that was fun but also killed off a major character.

I remember that episode. I thought it was a piece of crap. I hope "ONCE UPON A TIME" do better.



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As for emma i think with the DO the person is still in control of what they do but i think there sense of right and wrong starts to blur and the longer that emma is the DO the harder it will for them to get the darkness out of her.

Everyone has good and evil within them. Everyone. It never goes away. What exactly do you mean by "darkness"? Evil? What is it about Western society that it equates darkness with evil? I never understood this metaphor. Even after the Apprentice tranfered Emma's "evil" to Lily, she still managed to commit morally questionable or compromised acts. She was a thief. She still drives around in a stolen vehicle. She did nothing to stop Snow White from trying to kill Mulan. Her misuse of prisoners like Hook and Will only told me that she was capable of corrupting her role as a law enforcer. She tried to ensure that Henry never regain his memories so that they can resume their fantasy life in New York. And she killed Cruella in a very questionable manner that nearly endangered Henry's life. What was the point of the Apprentice taking away her inner evil, when it is apparent that he never did?
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Old 05-11-2015, 10:59 PM
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Also the could release the latest cast updates. I'm curious if Michael Socha stays on or is let go. Or if a few other cast members join the roster either as a series regular or recurring guest star.
In the past we didn't learn about additions to the cast until late May or June. That's when we learned about Meghan and Emilie. It takes some time to sort out everything after the show is officially renewed which only happened a few days ago.

No doubt that Sean will join the main cast. Pretty sure Bex too.

As for finding out who might be leaving the main cast during the hiatus, we will probably get our first clue when we find out who is attending Comic Con. Back after S1, most were pretty certain Raphael was leaving the main cast and weren't sure about Eion. When both weren't attending Comic Con even though Meghan and Emilie were that was the first clue.

In Raphael and Eion's cases we didn't get official first word until the description on the ABC Media website was changed to reflect the new main cast.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:00 PM
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Didn't they say they were going to tell Will's storyline down the line? I feel like he will be kept as a regular for that reason. I think Robin is gonna be regular and probably Rebecca as well but Zelena will die by the end of the season.

It was suggested Socha was a regular on April 1st.
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We found out Michael Socha was a regular or being talked of being a regular on April Fools Day but I think we really found out at upfronts same with MRJ. When they had a PR or something.
Not sure if it was at Upfronts, but MRJ's status was announced the day after the season finale.


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How long do you guys think Rumple will be in the coma?
Depends. Believe there is a lot to learn about the DO mythology. So there is still a lot unknown at the moment and that will determine his fate.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:06 PM
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How long do you guys think Rumple will be in the coma?
I think he'll either wake up at the end of Ep1 or sometime in Ep2. I don't think his story next season is being in a coma. I think it's how (who?) he is going to be when he wakes up.

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Didn't they say they were going to tell Will's storyline down the line? I feel like he will be kept as a regular for that reason. I think Robin is gonna be regular and probably Rebecca as well but Zelena will die by the end of the season.

It was suggested Socha was a regular on April 1st.
Yeah but April 1 was when news was leaked that they were in negotiation to possibly bring Michael onto the regular cast. It wasn't an announcement. It was news that was leaked and no one on the show would comment on it. It wasn't until weeks later that we got official word.

They said they wanted to eventually tell the story of what happened to Will and Ana, but they didn't promise it was something for next season. In fact they sounded kind of vague so I think they might tell that story eventually with Michael and Emma as guest stars for one episode.

He had the role of an extra in the finale. It doesn't look promising for him staying on the main cast IMO.
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I think he'll either wake up at the end of Ep1 or sometime in Ep2. I don't think his story next season is being in a coma. I think it's how (who?) he going to be when he wakes up.
Yeah, and that's a lot story possibilities. This is what I'm looking forward to the most - RC's reinvention (or not) of Gold.


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Yeah but April 1 was when news was leaked that they were in negotiation to possibly bring Michael onto the regular cast. It wasn't an announcement. It was news that was leaked and no one on the show would comment on it. It wasn't until weeks later that we got official word.

They said they wanted to eventually tell the story of what happened to Will and Ana, but they didn't promise it was something for next season. In fact they sounded kind of vague so I think they might tell that story eventually with Michael and Emma as guest stars for one episode.
Okay, but here's what I don't understand. Why didn't they sign up the actress who played Ana at the same time as Michael? It just doesn't make sense in hindsight.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:19 PM
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Okay, but here's what I don't understand. Why didn't they sign up the actress who played Ana at the same time as Michael? It just doesn't make sense in hindsight.
Maybe they were planning to bring on Emma as a reoccurring guest actress for 4b (Ana as a QoD ) but then it never worked out because she got her movie deal?

I mean if they drop him from the main cast we might never find out what exactly happened there. We know what went on with Meghan because she revealed a lot in an interview. But we still don't know what their original plan was for Raphael. After Jiminy's centric which was early in the season, he kind of disappeared into the background as if there was no plan to actually use him in a long-term story. Eion was signed on as a regular late in S1 and then only appeared in two episodes in S2. We never found out what happened there...

This isn't unusual for A&E. They are men with lots of ideas and sometimes as a result they plan for something that ends up not panning out at all.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:25 PM
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Maybe they were planning to bring on Emma as a reoccurring guest actress for 4b (Ana as a QoD ) but then it never worked out because she got her movie deal?

I mean if they drop him from the main cast we might never find out what exactly happened there. We know what went on with Meghan because she revealed a lot in an interview. But we still don't know what their original plan was for Raphael. After Jiminy's centric which was early in the season, he kind of disappeared into the background as if there was no plan to actually use him in a long-term story. Eion was signed on as a regular late in S1 and then only appeared in two episodes in S2. We never found out what happened there...

This isn't unusual for A&E. They are men with lots of ideas and sometimes as a result they plan for something that ends up not panning out at all.
I didn't think about her as a QOD, but that's an arc they should have known during this season's planning. So booo to them.

But our cast list is growing quite large and I don't know how we'll handle additional stories in an already crowded episode.

There seem to be a hint of Agnes returning and hopefully Sean. So hopefully we'll get some news Tuesday.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:31 PM
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I didn't think about her as a QOD, but that's an arc they should have known during this season's planning. So booo to them.

But our cast list is growing quite large and I don't know how we'll handle additional stories in an already crowded episode.

There seem to be a hint of Agnes returning and hopefully Sean. So hopefully we'll get some news Tuesday.
Which is exactly why I think if Michael returns it will be as a guest star.

I think Sean is definite. I think Bex is also likely. Agnes might be too but I think it's more likely she returns as a reoccurring guest star as part of the Camelot arc.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:34 PM
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Which is exactly why I think if Michael returns it will be as a guest star.

I think Sean is definite. I think Bex is also likely. Agnes might be too but I think it's more likely she returns as a reoccurring guest star as part of the Camelot arc.
Forgot about her. So three new cast additions. Wow! That is quite large. Pluse they've already introduced a couple of Camelot character, correct? So they could make a return.
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But our cast list is growing quite large and I don't know how we'll handle additional stories in an already crowded episode.
Yeah, they've had nine main characters every season. Idk if they could handle 10, tbh, let alone 11.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:39 PM
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Yeah, they've had nine main characters every season. Idk if they could handle 10, tbh, let alone 11.
I'm not sure what ABC would do or allow that large of a cast. Especially after they agreed to sign MS as a series regular and basically rarely worked. I just don't see the suits willing to repeat the scenario another season.

Plus everyone admits the show is expensive to produce. Not sure if they're willing to take on the additional salary costs.
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I'm not sure what ABC would do or allow that large of a cast. Especially after they agreed to sign MS as a series regular and basically rarely worked. I just don't see the suits willing to repeat the scenario another season.

Plus everyone admits the show is expensive to produce. Not sure if they're willing to take on the additional salary costs.
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Yeah, they've had nine main characters every season. Idk if they could handle 10, tbh, let alone 11.
Good points!

Maybe ABC will keep it to 9 then and only Sean will become a regular with Michael dropped from the regular cast. Then Bex and Agnes return as reoccurring.
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