Spoilers - OTH S&S #332: Bc scripts created by artificial insemination are born a turkey - Page 8

TrueBlue · 11-30-2007, 07:26 PM

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i think brooke should be ashamed of asking lucas to be a sperm doner for a baby! I think she should also be ashamed because she knows the peyton still has feelings for lucas and lucas has feelings for peyton, so why would she ask such a stupid question, cant she have children with owen? its not like she wants to be with lucas anymore, she even told peyton "i want you to marry lucas"...... so whats brookes problem??

It's not about Lucas and Peyton, it's about Brooke. At this point we don't know if she and Owen are even together and even if they were that doesn't mean that she would want to have children with him. Brooke hasn't thought the situation through, that's a given. But, right now she wants to have a baby in order to be the mother that her mother never was to her. I'm sure a lot of this comes about because of working with her mother and then being back in Tree Hill and seeing/being around Jamie. Lucas is someone she trusts, implicitly, and just because she's not in love with him anymore doesn't mean she doesn't love him. He was the one person that she could always count on in the past and so my guess is that she is going to turn to that one person to help her now.

I don't think she should be ashamed. I think she should take a step back and look at the big picture. She has to realize that just because everyone else is married and has kids, or is at least planning on getting married, doesn't mean that she has to follow that mold. Brooke is afraid of being alone and I think the baby is partially a product of that as well. It's not a good reason by any means but from what we know about Brooke's feelings on being alone, I don't see it being something that comes completely out of nowhere. Her asking Lucas to help her is a little out there but we also don't know the whole context of it all yet.

curlyhead · 11-30-2007, 07:30 PM

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What I meant was if he is fine with doing it and is single there is nothing stopping him from saying yes. But you are right, if he is not ready to be a father then he shouldn't say yes. But again I think it depends on what Brooke and Lucas see his part being in it all. Lucas may want to play a bigger role in the child's life, which I think is likely, so if he is not ready he should say no, then again if it is just a case of him getting her pregnant and not really playing a large part in the childs life which I think is unlikely, then he might still agree to do it. It depends on so many things.

I don't know. But I think it is a possibility, even if it is only a minor one. I mean stranger things have happened in TH

But Lindsey doesn't even want Lucas breathing around Peyton (an ex) hardly. There is no way that she would agree to this, regardless of what Lucas says. I have to firmly believe that Lindsey knows absolutely nothing about the sperm situation.

Brucas4life · 11-30-2007, 07:30 PM

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i think brooke should be ashamed of asking lucas to be a sperm doner for a baby! I think she should also be ashamed because she knows that peyton still has feelings for lucas and lucas has feelings for peyton, so why would she ask such a stupid question, cant she have children with owen? its not like she wants to be with lucas anymore, she even told peyton "i want you to marry lucas"...... so whats brookes problem??

well at first i thought that LP may not get back together, but from the new spoilers, im rethinking that!!! come on besides for the stupid Brooke situation, LP seem like they are in love and are going to get back together, i even think that greg will just reunite LP even more by making lucas fight for peyton!

OK well I don't think Brooke should be ashamed of herself, she has put her own happiness to the side before. This is what she really wants. Her wording indicates that she has clearly been thinking about it a lot. He asked her if she was sure and she said she was. She already planned on asking Lucas before she even got back to TH and as far as she knows LP are over. When she said she thought they would work it out, Lucas said not this time. Why should she want a baby with a man she may not have even been on a date with, a man who she has known for a month at the most, a man which she hardly knows. If she was asking Owen I would be a lot more worried than I am about her asking Lucas.

I can see LP reuniting still. I mean in s3 it didn't look like BL would reunite and then we had 309. However I see this Greg thing coming out and destroying it to be totally honest. Maybe Greg will make an appearance in TH at some point

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But Lindsey doesn't even want Lucas breathing around Peyton (an ex) hardly. There is no way that she would agree to this, regardless of what Lucas says. I have to firmly believe that Lindsey knows absolutely nothing about the sperm situation.

We know Lindsey has a problem with Peyton but she doesn't with Brooke. In fact we even know Brooke hangs out with Lindsey and Haley. I don't think Lindsey sees her as as much of a threat, rightly or wrongly. I am not saying I think Lindsey would agree to it, but I think there is the possibility. But even if she has been against it, after the wedding she won't be an issue anymore right.

leyton4ever1990 · 11-30-2007, 07:31 PM

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Brooke hasn't thought the situation through, that's a given

probably......??? she might have....

TrueBlue · 11-30-2007, 07:34 PM

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But Lindsey doesn't even want Lucas breathing around Peyton (an ex) hardly. There is no way that she would agree to this, regardless of what Lucas says. I have to firmly believe that Lindsey knows absolutely nothing about the sperm situation.

I don't think Lindsey does know either. Although, I have to admit I would really like to see that conversation between Lucas and Lindsey about this.

The only way I could see Lindsey agreeing to it is if she felt that Brooke really didn't want Lucas back. But, even then I find it hard to believe that she would be alright with it.

TeamLeyton23 · 11-30-2007, 07:36 PM

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probably......??? she might have....

I actually dont think brooke is thinking everything threw, she probably wants the baby so bad thats shes not thinking about everything fully. i think once she had to time to really sit down and think about it she will probably realize its not the best thing. who knows tho.

leyton=LOVE · 11-30-2007, 07:40 PM

I just don't understand how Lucas could ever agree to such a complicated and unrational idea like this. In S1 BL broke up and Brooke thought she was pregnant, and Lucas came to her house and told her that he always thought that when he started a family he'd be in love, why would he suddenly agree to this? He is about to marry Lindsey, while still have unresolved feelings for Peyton, and he wants to complicate things even more by bringing Brooke and a baby into things? Especially with all of that history with Dan, would he really want to turn out like him in a way? All of this just doesn't make any sense from either character's point of view and as I think Susan said before the child's life wouldn't be that great, especially if Brooke found herself a guy she loved and had more kids.

leyton4ever1990 · 11-30-2007, 07:40 PM

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I actually dont think brooke is thinking everything threw, she probably wants the baby so bad thats shes not thinking about everything fully. i think once she had to time to really sit down and think about it she will probably realize its not the best thing. who knows tho.

ya......i think ill have to see how everything plays out?

but who knows?

TrueBlue · 11-30-2007, 07:41 PM

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probably......??? she might have....

I highly doubt that Brooke has thought the entire thing through, all the implications for not only her and Lucas but for the child as well. Brooke isn't dumb by any means and she isn't the type of person who want a child subjected to a lifestyle that is going to almost immediately make them feel like an outsider and the child would because it's Tree Hill and no one can ever keep a secret for very long. Brooke wants a baby and she trusts Lucas and right now that's probably as far as the thought process has gone.

leyton4ever1990 · 11-30-2007, 07:42 PM

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I just don't understand how Lucas could ever agree to such a complicated and unrational idea like this. In S1 BL broke up and Brooke thought she was pregnant, and Lucas came to her house and told her that he always thought that when he started a family he'd be in love, why would he suddenly agree to this? He is about to marry Lindsey, while still have unresolved feelings for Peyton, and he wants to complicate things even more by bringing Brooke and a baby into things? Especially with all of that history with Dan, would he really want to turn out like him in a way? All of this just doesn't make any sense from either character's point of view and as I think Susan said before the child's life wouldn't be that great, especially if Brooke found herself a guy she loved and had more kids.

i agree....totally 100%

g2g, see ya!

Brucas4life · 11-30-2007, 07:44 PM

Maybe Brooke hasn't thought about everything but the way she is talking shows that not only has she thought about this for a while but she is also positive that this is what she wants. She seems very sure of herself. I mean it's not the kind of thing you just jump into. It's HUGE. And I am sure she realises this and how much she is asking of Lucas. I don't think she would ask him if she wasn't 100% sure, especially considering he is with Lindsey at the time.

It's not like Brooke is holding a gun to his head. It is up to Lucas (and maybe Lindsey) . If he feels uncomfortable with it then he won't do it. She is not begging him in anyway. She is simply asking him. If he says no I am sure Brooke will understand. I actually think he is going to say yes if he hasn't done already. It's just a feeling I got from the side. But I guess we will soon see.

catc20 · 11-30-2007, 07:45 PM

Um who the hell cares if Brooke says the exact words "meant to be".

By the scene she yells that "He wrote a freakin book about you Peyton" She's convincing Peyton that she should fight for Lucas basically.

Brooke even says as she's telling Peyton she wants Luke's sperm, that she wans LP to be married.

The way Brooke says it to Peyton. almost seems that Brooke's thrilled Peyton and her can be co-mommies or whatever. Like, "yay" you can be the step mommy P. Sawyer.

Who does that? Who wants that future for their child. Seriously who really plans to bring their child into a mess like that?

Brooke is not thinking this through at all, if she was she would know how much it surely means to Lucas to raise his child fulltime if he can help it. Not to mention, I don't know about you guys, but the guy I marry I would prefer to give him his first child. There is nothing like that first one and if you have the chance to share it with the person you want to also share a life with then you should have the damn chance. We all should have that chance.

Brooke is 21/22 she has so much time and so does Lucas. I would maybe understand this if they were all 30, but now, no way in hell does it make any sense. Why does Brooke need this baby right now? Oh I know because she wants a quick fix to her life. fill a void. Get a cat Brooke! Let's see if you can take care of an animal that demands you attention first.

If Brooke were mature enough to have a child, she would never think this was a good idea. I would think this was equally stupid if BL were "meant to be" and Peyton wanted them together and then she asked Lucas for his sperm.

Somehow I don't see Brooke approving that.

curlyhead · 11-30-2007, 07:46 PM

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We know Lindsey has a problem with Peyton but she doesn't with Brooke. In fact we even know Brooke hangs out with Lindsey and Haley. I don't think Lindsey sees her as as much of a threat, rightly or wrongly. I am not saying I think Lindsey would agree to it, but I think there is the possibility. But even if she has been against it, after the wedding she won't be an issue anymore right.

No, Lindsey doesn't see Brooke as a threat, but doesn't it seem just a little out of character for her to agree to the BL baby? She's pretty possessive of Lucas. That doesn't make sense. Yes, it's possible that Lucas hasn't told her, but that's shady right there too.

The only halfway somewhat rational thing is if Brooke had asked Lucas a while back before he was engaged. I hope that's what is missing in all of this...the timing of her proposition is what we are missing.

TrueBlue · 11-30-2007, 07:50 PM

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Um who the hell cares if Brooke says the exact words "meant to be".

By the scene she yells that "He wrote a freakin book about you Peyton" She's convincing Peyton that she should fight for Lucas basically.

Brooke even says as she's telling Peyton she wants Luke's sperm, that she wans LP to be married.

The way Brooke says it to Peyton. almost seems that Brooke's thrilled Peyton and her can be co-mommies or whatever. Like, "yay" you can be the step mommy P. Sawyer.

Who does that? Who wants that future for their child. Seriously who really plans to bring their child into a mess like that?

Brooke is not thinking this through at all, if she was she would know how much it surely means to Lucas to raise his child fulltime if he can help it. Not to mention, I don't know about you guys, but the guy I marry I would prefer to give him his first child. There is nothing like that first one and if you have the chance to share it with the person you want to also share a life with then you should have the damn chance. We all should have that chance.

Brooke is 21/22 she has so much time and so does Lucas. I would maybe understand this if they were all 30, but now, no way in hell does it make any sense.

If Brooke were mature enough to have a child, she would never think this was a good idea. I would think this was equally stupid if BL were "meant to be" and Peyton wanted them together and then she asked Lucas for his sperm.

Somehow I don't see Brooke approving that.

I actually could see Brooke approving of it, as crazy as it seems. Brooke would do anything for her bestfriend and if that is what Peyton really truly wanted then I think Brooke would find a way to be ok with it.

I think Brooke is mature enough to have a child she just needs perspective on the situation at hand.

**mjgchick** · 11-30-2007, 07:52 PM

I can't see Brooke wanting LP baby if she's in love with Lucas. She could not even handle Peyton being in love with Lucas let alone a baby LOL. I just can't see a normal person wanting that even if it is Lindsey lol