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**Poupa** · 02-02-2007, 02:27 PM

The writers are on Deb's pills. I guess we all agree on that.

dookie21 · 02-02-2007, 02:29 PM

What's the meaning of SL?

SluttyDeb · 02-02-2007, 02:30 PM

I don't want separation, I want communication. How much does that cost? Because maybe they can throw in a new sponsor to pay for it. Hmmmm..... maybe Trojan.

Sl= story line

finallyleyton · 02-02-2007, 02:30 PM

I don't really like Haley this season. I've wanted to see her tell Nathan to get off his ass and get a job all season. The whole he can't work right now b/c of basketball was such a load of crap. If Haley can work, got to school, be a cheerleader, tutor, and babysit why can't Nathan get a job. The old Haley would have been telling him to get a job to help support them baby or no baby. She would have been telling him we gotta take all this new crap back to the store b/c we can't afford it. The old Haley would have never been telling Nathan to ask his parents for money when they were having financial problems. The old Haley would have never accpeted anything from Dan of all people.

I just don't understand what they're doing with Haley, but it's really making me not like her.

I don't hate this sex tape storyline, but I do hate that they're making Haley cry over not having a prom dress, getting all pissed about Nathan's past sexual history, and kicking Rachel's ass when they have such bigger issues they should be worrying about.

Why did the whole Daunte thing end up being about trust issues b/c Nathan didn't tell her about it; it was just stupid. It should have been about Nathan being so freaking irresponsible and stupid.

I wanted Lucas to be more pissed at Nathan for almost getting Haley killed too.

**Poupa** · 02-02-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dookie21 (View Post)

What's the meaning of SL?

It means: StoryLine

rock air guitar · 02-02-2007, 02:31 PM

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I don't want separation, I want communication. How much does that cost? Because maybe they can throw in a new sponsor to pay for it. Hmmmm..... maybe Trojan.

Sl= storyline

lmfao. Lord knows Tree Hill needs it.

shiftmyshape · 02-02-2007, 02:33 PM

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shiftmyshape, I didn't say you are attacking anyone, my piont is every fan that is not satisfied with NH or Haley's storylines, blame it all on Nathan or his existance in Haley's life. I think if the writers wanted to give Haley screentime, storylines or development, they would have given it to her, whether she has the marriage SL or not, i mean, S2 is an example, thought it was character assisnation, but it was a storyline to Haley and she was married back then too.

I didn't disresepect you, if you took my post as one, then you simply misunderstood me. Why would i attack you for voicing your opnion. You were voiciing your fustration over the lack of SL and screentime to Haley, & I was voicing my fustration over the fact that everything is blamed on Nathan.

I love Haley and Joie, and i want her to have an idependent SL and more screen time, she is so talented and defiently deserve it, so i guess we both agree on that.

Okay, sorry for my misunderstanding. Your first post directed at me seemed a little tense.

I just feel at this point, NH are definitely solid. There's no breaking them up, so Nathan can dump on Haley all he wants (and it's been that way since s2 - when there is drama in the relationship) and we all know she'll roll over and take it. Whereas, if there was no marraige, or no baby maybe there's a teeny possibility that Haley wont take it. That a baby and this level of commitment wouldn't cloud her judgement, or even the writer's. They could be free to spend time apart or see other people and it wouldn't feel so forced. Of course this is just my opinion. I can enjoy N/H but lately I'm not and I'm only venting because I want better for them then this constant crap.

dookie21 · 02-02-2007, 02:35 PM

Thank you.
I try to understand your discussion but i don't understand everything !!!

rock air guitar · 02-02-2007, 02:37 PM

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Okay, sorry for my misunderstanding. Your first post directed at me seemed a little tense.

I just feel at this point, NH are definitely solid. There's no breaking them up, so Nathan can dump on Haley all he wants (and it's been that way since s2 - when there is drama in the relationship) and we all know she'll roll over and take it. Whereas, if there was no marraige, or no baby maybe there's a teeny possibility that Haley wont take it. That a baby and this level of commitment wouldn't cloud her judgement, or even the writer's. They could be free to spend time apart or see other people and it wouldn't feel so forced. Of course this is just my opinion. I can enjoy N/H but lately I'm not and I'm only venting because I want better for them then this constant crap.

I agree completely! lol. It is just sooo off and I keep saying it. They should be given so much better.

**Poupa** · 02-02-2007, 02:39 PM

The problem is the writers is using the fact that NH are solid and they throw to them horrible things without letting them deal with it realistically.
I guess it could be Nathan dumping things on Haley or vice versa. The problem like i said earlier, is that they are putting all the blame on Nathan, making him make all the mistakes, while they are making Haley not do anything at all, i'm not saying i want Haley to make a huge mistake and look bad, but i mean there is no balance at all, Haley never did anything wrong eversince S2, that's why almost everyone feels that Nathan is the bad guy in the relationship. It's bad writing, believe me, if Nathan or Haley were real characters, they wouldn't be doing half of the things they are doing this season, but the writers are screwing them up, big time!

I want realistic fights or events, i want them to deal with stuff like any normal 18 years old couple will, i don't want stuff from the past to be dealt with, i want the future ones, Baby stuff, jobs stuff,college, anything but anything good. NH have nothing but angsty which lacks continuty, it's not even good one.

SluttyDeb · 02-02-2007, 02:47 PM

Haley doesn't have to make big mistakes for them to write Nathan in a better light. I don't see her as perfect. She held out on telling him she was pregnant and she's been biting her tongue and taking any crap someone dishes out to her (besides Rachel) since she returned from tour. That's a problem too. I expect jack @ss moves on both their parts because they're young, about to be new parents and newlywed. But Nathan never has to pay for any of his negative actions this season. He is constantly let off the hook by Haley and Luke. Family and friends keep you grounded and let you know where you're screwing up. I don't mind if they keep writing him screwing up if Haley, Luke, even Dan would start calling him on it!

finallyleyton · 02-02-2007, 02:48 PM

It makes me wonder if they're trying to get NH fans to hate Nathan so then if Haley leaves him fans will be more ok with it and then we can have a Karen/Keith/baby 2.0.

Haley will be on her own with the baby and then Lucas will be there for her.

-sick jag- · 02-02-2007, 02:52 PM

No. Mark and Co would never split up NH for good. Hell, I don't think he'd even dare try another seperation that lasted longer than Haley-staying-with-Karen-andLucas-ala4.11.

BiCaRdiBrEeZa · 02-02-2007, 02:54 PM

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It makes me wonder if they're trying to get NH fans to hate Nathan so then if Haley leaves him fans will be more ok with it and then we can have a Karen/Keith/baby 2.0.

Haley will be on her own with the baby and then Lucas will be there for her.

And that would be the worst possible ending ever.

finallyleyton · 02-02-2007, 02:55 PM

I sure hope not b/c it would end up pissing off pretty much every shipper fanbase this show has. NH, LP, and BL. Talk about loosing viewers. Not only that the message of the show in the end would be u can never escape your family's histories. Your ass is doomed to relive them no matter what.