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Old 07-06-2008, 11:20 PM
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What really stands out to me is that in S1, there were so many obvious differences between Lucas and Brooke, particularly their personalities. One was outspoken and wild while the other was more reserved. But as the show progressed, the distance between them as individuals began to lessen. We start to see, like Mouth once said, that they had the same hearts.

Lucas rushed to the Duke party because someone was in trouble and Brooke rushed to the hospital after Nathan's accident because someone was in trouble. She was portrayed as self-centered, yet she gave so much of herself. At times, more than any other character did.

She didn't have a reason to like Haley at first. She wasn't exactly friendly in S1 and was obviously on team Leyton, but as time went on, she was the one to give her a place to stay when Peyton wouldn't even glance in her direction. Kind of like Lucas arranged to have Brooke stay in his room when she had no where else to go.

But the point I'm trying to make is that right now, what seems to be front and center with Peyton is her career in music. Perhaps it's because she doesn't have much else in her life right now, but I can see it being an issue in the future. Luke obviously wants a family. He wants someone he can share his dreams with, but when we look back on the seasons, Peyton wasn't standing beside him when his dreams came true... Brooke was. She cheered for him when he was at his highest, and she held him up when he was at his lowest. Kind of like he did when she was going through everything with Angie.

Again... they have the same hearts.

They both want a family. Brooke has success and money and fame and whatever else she wants to charge to her bank account, but none of those things matter because she wants love and a family. The same thing that Luke wants. But I don't think it's front and center with Peyton. I think history will repeat itself with her once again putting Lucas on hold for her career. It seems like it'll be a sore point and that they'll drift apart because of their differences while BL get closer doing what they seem to do so well... leaning on each other. Being there for each other. Saving each other.

A mutual love that isn't contrived or even realized by most.

Great post Cindy!
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:26 PM
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I agree. Not to be mean to any of our guests or anything, but it's a BL thread and there's a lot being said about not getting hopes up or about what we shouldn't interpret in our favor. Of course we're going to see things a certain way or hope for something to happen between Brooke and Lucas... they're our couple, and that's why we're here.
i agree!--- this is BL thread... our land, our ships! we are all here to support and believe what we believe to be the end COUPLE!... we have the right to interpret things regarding BL,, even if its good or bad speculation, still it is about our couple!
whatever it is that is post in here is basically our POWER to bring out the best in BL! to show everyone that BL really deserves to be together...

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Old 07-06-2008, 11:43 PM
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Amazing post, Cindy. That really is the essence of BL. They're so different, but, in the end, the parts of them that match are the parts that really matter in a relationship.
yes... luke and brooke are two opposite character but there heart and soul are the same!-- just like want happened to me... iv been married for 4 years now and alot of my close friends are telling me that me and my husband are sooo different in so many ways... he's quite and im loud... we also disagree about alot of things like politics, showbiz and parenting! but what makes it extra special about our relationship was our hearts are ONE... we connect each other because our heart put our souls together!
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:49 PM
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What really stands out to me is that in S1, there were so many obvious differences between Lucas and Brooke, particularly their personalities. One was outspoken and wild while the other was more reserved. But as the show progressed, the distance between them as individuals began to lessen. We start to see, like Mouth once said, that they had the same hearts.

Lucas rushed to the Duke party because someone was in trouble and Brooke rushed to the hospital after Nathan's accident because someone was in trouble. She was portrayed as self-centered, yet she gave so much of herself. At times, more than any other character did.

She didn't have a reason to like Haley at first. She wasn't exactly friendly in S1 and was obviously on team Leyton, but as time went on, she was the one to give her a place to stay when Peyton wouldn't even glance in her direction. Kind of like Lucas arranged to have Brooke stay in his room when she had no where else to go.

But the point I'm trying to make is that right now, what seems to be front and center with Peyton is her career in music. Perhaps it's because she doesn't have much else in her life right now, but I can see it being an issue in the future. Luke obviously wants a family. He wants someone he can share his dreams with, but when we look back on the seasons, Peyton wasn't standing beside him when his dreams came true... Brooke was. She cheered for him when he was at his highest, and she held him up when he was at his lowest. Kind of like he did when she was going through everything with Angie.

Again... they have the same hearts.

They both want a family. Brooke has success and money and fame and whatever else she wants to charge to her bank account, but none of those things matter because she wants love and a family. The same thing that Luke wants. But I don't think it's front and center with Peyton. I think history will repeat itself with her once again putting Lucas on hold for her career. It seems like it'll be a sore point and that they'll drift apart because of their differences while BL get closer doing what they seem to do so well... leaning on each other. Being there for each other. Saving each other.

A mutual love that isn't contrived or even realized by most.
ITA!

What a wonderful post... You've said everything I think...
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:58 PM
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You guys act like you've never run into someone you knew from high school (for those that have graduated high school. ) and said "you're with so and so? i swore you and so would be together forever!".

I think if you don't wanna be with someone, no amount of coaxing will make you be with that person. My sister and her ex were together 3 years, and he was the coolest, sweetest boyfriend in the world! Just all around kick ass guy! My sister doesn't have the best taste in men, so for her to be with this guy for so long made everyone around her happy! When they broke up last year, everyone around her took it almost worse than she did!! She has a new boyfriend now, but she constantly has to hear "You should get back together with Aras!!". Has she broken up with her new boyfriend? no. they've been together seven months and they're obbssessed with each other! So i don't really buy that whole "they made Lucas be with peyton" argument.
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That's really not the point of what we're saying Natalie. And, this is the BL thread, and I think we're all tired of debating LP here. Can we please please not go back to that discussion?
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You guys act like you've never run into someone you knew from high school (for those that have graduated high school. ) and said "you're with so and so? i swore you and so would be together forever!".

I think if you don't wanna be with someone, no amount of coaxing will make you be with that person. My sister and her ex were together 3 years, and he was the coolest, sweetest boyfriend in the world! Just all around kick ass guy! My sister doesn't have the best taste in men, so for her to be with this guy for so long made everyone around her happy! When they broke up last year, everyone around her took it almost worse than she did!! She has a new boyfriend now, but she constantly has to hear "You should get back together with Aras!!". Has she broken up with her new boyfriend? no. they've been together seven months and they're obbssessed with each other! So i don't really buy that whole "they made Lucas be with peyton" argument.
Well, um, I don't think anyone on here ever said "they made Lucas be with Peyton." We do say, "They constantly cheer them on and convince them that they're right for each other."

And also, doing that, cheering people on to be together, can get confusing for the two people, and I'm talking from experience. I feel for Lucas, but that doesn't mean I think he got together with her beause "they made him." I think he was with her because they confused him. But I'm not going to be ignorant and say he didn't have feelings for her. It's a love triangle, after all. It wouldn't be a triangle (and a staple of the show) if they all didn't have feelings for each other at some point or another.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:07 AM
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sorry. i was just joining in on what everyone else was saying about how others push lucas towards peyton.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:11 AM
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It was actually a discussion on subtlety. And I feel like the focus had moved towards Brooke and Lucas and I was hoping it would stay there since that is the purpose of this thread. That's all I was saying.


ETA: Going off what Cindy was saying about Lucas and Brooke having the same hearts, that's why I am certain that Lucas will play a role in Brooke's "dark place" SL next season. He will want to help her heal herself. Also, I definitely think that Brooke saying she wouldn't have gotten through a lot of days without Lucas points towards this SL. Mark had to have had a general idea of where his characters were going in S6 at that point.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:13 AM
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It's getting really annoying having LP fans come in her and defend LP. You don't see BL fans go in the LP thread and fight for BL. If you have something nice to say about BL it's fine if you post but if you are here to defend LP then really what's the point? We obviously aren't going to agree here.

And honestly if someone has put in your mind over and over that you should be with someone then it's going to make you question if you really should. Ecspecially when the relationship didn't end so well. No one here is saying that everyone made Lucas call Peyton but I really do believe they had some influence.
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Things I wish we wouldn't do in this thread . . . DEBATE BL vs LP

It's so inappropriate, and it's going to get our thread shut down not anyone elses .

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Old 07-07-2008, 12:25 AM
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I also wish everyone would stop talking about LP, and focus on BL. somehow people talk alot about LP in this thread, and I don't get it...the times that I have seen LPers come in, its to respond to comments by others about LP ...
on that note, I have a quick question. What episode was it in season 2 where we find out that Luke likes Brooke?
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Christine, it's why I love BL: bcuz they have the same hearts. And When Lucas told Brooke that she saves ppl, he included himself 1 of those ppl and she went on to tell him that he saved her as well, although not in those exact words or format. It's what I love about them.
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edit I also wish everyone would stop talking about LP, and focus on BL. somehow people talk alot about LP in this thread, and I don't get it...the times that I have seen LPers come in, its to respond to comments by others about LP ...
no matter what, we're going to have to somehow slightly discuss LP. we're in a triangle, so to achknowledge the fact that we're in one will happen, alot.

i think the golden rule just applies: if you can't say anything nice, or in here anything that has to do with bl, dont say anything at all.

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