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Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan
Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret
Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David
Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold
Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina
Jared Gilmore as Henry
Emilie de Ravin as Belle
Colin O'Donoghue as Captain Hook
Michael Raymond-James as Baelfire/Neal


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Adam Horowitz, executive producer and writer
Jane Espenson, writer
Liz Tigelaar, writer
Andrew Chambliss, writer

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Master storytellers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz ("Lost," "Tron: Legacy") invite everyone to join Emma Swan, Snow White, Prince Charming, Rumplestiltskin, Hook and the Evil Queen Regina as they travel through a portal on the Jolly Roger in an effort to reach Neverland and rescue Henry.

Welcome to Storybrooke, Maine, a small town that probably won't show up on your GPS, but it's a magical place to visit. Reality and myth merged after Emma broke Regina's curse, which had deprived the fairytale characters of their memories and trapped them in our modern world. When they finally regained their identities, our heroes were dismayed to discover that they weren't transported back to Fairy Tale Land. To make matters worse, Rumplestiltskin - aka Mr. Gold - decided to escalate his power struggle with Regina by introducing magic into the town. But this is our world, and magic always has a tendency to yield unfathomable consequences.

Nothing is more important than family, and these characters' bonds are as strong as the line between good and evil is blurry. Mary Margaret and Emma - mother and daughter reunited -- were sucked into a portal that transported them to what was left of Fairy Tale Land. It was there that they met Mulan and Aurora, who helped them evade Cora and Hook and enabled them to travel back to Storybrooke, reuniting them with Emma's father, David, and her son, Henry. But Cora and Hook found another portal into town, where Cora set about reuniting with her own daughter, Regina. Cora then attempted to find Mr. Gold's dagger in a play to take him down and become the Dark One herself. Hook had also aspired to kill Mr. Gold, not for power but for revenge. And Mr. Gold set out to find his son, Bae, which he did, in New York, with the aid of Emma and Henry. Much to everyone's surprise, Bae turned out to be Emma's former love, Neal, and Henry's father. Back in Storybrooke, Mary Margaret did something completely against her nature - she used dark magic to kill Cora - causing her own heart to darken. And Greg Mendell -- who saw magic in the town as a boy and believes Regina knows where he can find his father - along with his partner, Tamara, planned to eradicate magic completely from our world using a trigger that Regina had planted within her curse. During the struggle to save Storybrooke, Neal was shot by Tamara and fell through a portal to the Enchanted Forest -- barely alive - where he was found by Aurora, Mulan and Prince Phillip. Although their plan was foiled, Greg and Tamara kidnapped Henry and brought him through a portal to their "Home Office," believing that they might still be able to use him to destroy magic in all worlds. With the aid of Hook and his ship, Emma, Mary Margaret, David, Mr. Gold and Regina used the last magic bean to follow Henry, Greg and Tamara... to Neverland.

First order of business this season: save Henry. But Neverland is a much darker place than you remember, and in order for our heroes to accomplish their mission, they'll have to face a foe more powerful than the Dark One himself. What does Peter Pan want with Henry? Can our heroes put aside their differences and work together? Will Aurora, Mulan and Prince Phillip be able to nurse Neal back to health and reunite him with his family? New fairytale characters will be revealed and old acquaintances will be revisited. So think of a wonderful thought... because our Neverland's going to be a fever dream that just won't break.

"Once Upon a Time" stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O'Donoghue as Hook, Michael Raymond-James as Baelfire/Neal Cassidy, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.


UPCOMING EPISODES

3.04 Nasty Habits

3.05 Good Form
3.06 Ariel


3.07 Dark Hollow


3.08 Think Lovely Thoughts
  • Episode 3.08 of Once Upon a Time will feature a flashback showing Robert Carlyle's characters father, Colin.

    He will also appear in Episode 3.11.

    He is described as dissatisfied, self-centered and ruthless. Source





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SEASON 3 SPOILERS
  • What’s going to happen to Storybrooke on Once Upon a Time? —Lauren
    NATALIE: Just because most of the ABC’s fairy-tale drama’s main characters went through a portal to Neverland does not mean we won’t be seeing Storybrooke next season. In fact, Emilie de Ravin, whose Belle has been left in charge of the town, confirms that she’ll continue to be a series regular in Season 3. The Lost alum also notes that even though Belle’s memories are allintact, it doesn’t mean she’ll write Mr. Gold off for his actions while she was Lacey. “She was going along with it though, so therefore you can’t blame him if you’re the one saying, ‘Kick that guy’s a—,” she says, noting that Belle will be devastated about his absence when the show returns. “But also she’ll gain her strength back and she’ll have to if she’s going to protect an entire town.” Source
  • Is it just me, or do you think Hook has feelings for Emma on Once Upon a Time? Any scoop on them would be awesome! –Kelley B
    You know my stance on the whole Emma thing: What guy wouldn’t? But where Hook is concerned, seeing as he’s now on a journey with two eligible bachelorettes, the Jolly Roger might transform into the Love Boat. “It’s probably about time he sort of found another love in his life,” Colin O’Donoghue shared with me at season’s end. “But if it was a toss-up between [traveling companions] Regina or Emma, I’m not sure exactly who he’d go for.” Given that Emma is currently reeling from the loss of Neal, “Maybe he’ll have fun with Regina, while he’s waiting for Emma,” the pirate’s portrayer ventures. “Who knows!” Source
  • Does Once Upon a Time plan on telling the current stories of the characters in Storybrooke, or will Season 3 focus on Neverland and the Enchanted Forest? –Ellie
    In case my previous scoopage on this subject did not reassure you that, as the headline said, “Storybrooke will not be forgotten,” I just confirmed that Emilie de Ravin is still a series regular for Season 3. Thus, it sounds like Belle will certainly have Maine events of her own to deal with back home.
  • Tinker Bell's Turn
    Clap your hands if you believe in fairies, Once Upon a Time fans! And if you clap loudly enough, you might just get to meet Tinker Bell. With the action moving from Storybrooke to Neverland in Season 3, Peter Pan's favorite fairy is expected to play a significant role. In keeping with Once tradition, viewers will discover that Tink shares a surprising connection to one of the regulars. I do believe in fairies! I do! I do! Source
  • Question: Are the rumors true about Once Upon a Time introducing Tinker Bell? —Bonnie
    Ausiello: I’ll answer that question by describing to you the new character of Violet and letting you draw your own conclusions. How about that? Vi is a mischievous twentysomething whose penchant for troublemaking belies the heart of a true survivor. (Interesting side note, especially for Hook if she is Tinkerbell: She never lets a slight go unpunished!) Source
  • Do you have any Regina-related scoop for Once Upon a Time Season 3? –ZsaZsa
    And how! With an eye on the upcoming run, series cocreator Adam Horowitz tells us, “We may find out that perhaps, just perhaps, there is a special someone out there for Regina.” Source
  • Peter Pan, a new Robin Hood, Lost Boys plural….. Should Once Upon a Time fans be worried that the main cast will be overshadowed by the Season 3 newbies? –Devin
    I wouldn’t worry. I mean, we knew Peter Pan was coming, and where theres’ Pan, there are Lost Boys in the background. And Robin Hood, I suspect, will play a role on whats going on in the Fairytale Land That Is, probably impeding Neal’s return “home.” As series cocreator Adam Horowitz told me (after I suggested they’d be giving Belle new friends there in Storybrooke), “There will be some new characters, but for the most part were going to be focusing on our core group of regulars from Seasons 1 and 2. If characters do come in, it will, at least at first, be more akin to how we used Robin Hood in Season 2.” Source
  • How will they rescue Henry on Once Upon a Time? —Jennie
    NATALIE: Snow White and Prince Charming will find themselves trying to set a good and noble example for their daughter Emma when they head to Neverland, lest she turn to other means to get Henry back. "If the Queen's got a better way to get Henry that may break the law, so be it. It's prison rules," says executive producer Adam Horowitz. That will be difficult for Snow, who is still struggling with her blackened heart. "This year, it's about finding the hope," he adds. "It's the hope that Snow White always brought to us. She's the light. I think she's going to see a lot of darkness and realize that the best thing she can do is return the light to not just her, but to get daughter and her husband." Source
  • theOUATspoiler: Can you ask the Once Upon a Time creators for a clue to who Tinkerbell has the special connection with that they mentioned at Comic Con?
    Because we're in such a magical mood, we're going to sprinkle a little extra fairy dust on this answer! We recently caught up with the enchanted Once Upon a Time creators Eddy Kitsis and Adam Horowitz and they spilled that the newly cast Tinkerbell will have a connection to not one, but two characters aboard the Jolly Roger! (Cue the applause!) The fellas revealed that the iconic fairy and our swoon-worthy Captain Hook have a complicated Neverland history together, but we're still left guessing at Tink's other tie-in. So who could it be? The obvious choice would be that she's in Rumplestilskin's magical Rolodex, but we think it's going to be a bit more twisted than that. (Perhaps she's Charming's ex-girlfriend?! We kid, we kid!) Source
  • Do you have more details on Regina's love interest on Once Upon a Time? — Micah
    NATALIE: We'll meet her love interest very early on in the season, which presumably means that he or she hails from Neverland. "It's a side of the character of Regina we've only touched upon in the first two seasons," executive producer Adam Horowitz says. "We're excited to see more of that and more importantly to explore her capacity for love." Does anyone else think she could be paired with him? Source
  • I’d like some Once Upon a Time scoop — especially about the “Boy Who Never Grew Up.” –Mason
    You may be wondering, as I was, why Once‘s Peter Pan is a force “we all should fear”? (Or was Rumple overselling it?) “There’s a history between those two,” series cocreator Adam Horowitz affirms. “There is a big reason why he said if you’re going to be scared of someone, this is the guy to be scared of.” But there is also a degree of professional respect. “When you meet Pan, you’re going to see a very, very, very clever person,” says Eddy Kitsis. “And if there’s one thing Rumple admires, it’s somebody who has game.”
    Please help us, we are all dying here! What else can you say about Regina’s new love interest/”special someone” on Once Upon a Time? –Ana
    Fine, fine. I doubled back with the boys and Horowitz said that this “someone” “becomes a part of the show very quickly” – within the first five episodes – “but in a way that you don’t expect.” Source
  • Sasha: Any Once Upon a Time spoilers?
    We'll meet another one of Peter Pan's Lost Boys In episode 5: Devin, who has been in Neverland a long time and is extremely loyal to season 3's new big bad, but is competitive with his fellow boys as he's often overlooked. Green never looks good on anyone, Devin! Source
  • Question: Can we look forward to any substantial Snow/Emma scenes in Once Upon a Time Season 3? Also, is Snow finally going to get back to her warrior ways? –Christina
    Ausiello: Yes, and thus yes. As mom and daughter brave Neverland together while still adjusting to their family dynamic, “In a lot of ways, Mary Margaret may not be able to bond with Emma, but Bandit Snow and Emma have a lot in common,” notes cocreator Eddy Kitsis. Meaning, going up against Peter Pan and his Lost Boys will bring bow-toting Snow to the fore. “David and Mary Margaret last year were saying, ‘We are both,’” Kitsis reminds. “But this year it’s, ‘We need Snow and Charming.’ That’s what this mission requires.” Source
    Is there any way that Once Upon a Time‘s Ariel and Regina already met? Assuming that the “certain mermaid” Regina referred to in Episode 1×12, “Skin Deep,” was Ariel? –Mirza
    I suspect you are onto something, though cocreator Adam Horowitz will only say that “we might” flash back to that aforementioned encounter during JoAnna Garcia’s turn as the Little Mermaid. Source.
    Now that Once Upon a Time has cast both Ariel and Eric, can you give us anything new on what their story might be? – Jacquelyn
    I already slapped my theory onto the news story announcing Eric’s casting, but I can add this: Series cocreator Adam Horowitz, when asked to describe Once’s Ariel in three words, effectively evokes her classic characterization: “Adventurous. Spitfire. Romantic.” And then we joked about how the Little Mermaid had to move to Cleveland, because, well, Adam and I are nerdy Yankee fans. Source
  • Will Once Upon a Time fans see how Regina adopted Henry this season? –Ishan
    “Yes,” series cocreator Adam Horowitz confirms. “Before our Christmas break, we plan to show the why and the how of how baby Henry came to his new mother.” Source
  • Storybrookecity: Need some OUAT scoop!
    Let's focus on season three's big bad Peter Pan, shall we? We will learn how he became the twisted person he is today and some familiar names will definitely factor in, like Tinkerbell, who we will meet in episode three. "We try to have a spin on it that's a little different than what you expect, and also there's a connection to some of our characters that you've already met," Adam Horowitz teases. "And as for the Darlings, they're so integral to the Peter Pan story. We have not forgotten about them and there is a connection and a tie into what we're doing with them as well." Source
  • When will Neal and Emma be reunited on Once Upon a Time? —Anna
    NATALIE: It's going to be a while, Anna. We actually won't even see Neal & Co. this week, but Episode 3 will bring us back to the Enchanted Forest. "Neal is going to, come hell or high water, get back to Neverland," executive producer Edward Kitsis says, but Adam Horowitz adds that there will be a "wrinkle" in their story that will be revealed soon. Thankfully, Neal will find help in Robin Hood, who will repay his debt to Rumple via Neal. "Robin Hood's story is just beginning," says Kitsis. "We're airing in two 11-episode pods. You're going to get a little more into him in the beginning of this year, but we're definitely going to get a lot of him in the second half. He's a character we're really excited about because he's a thief, but he's a thief with honor." Does that mean I was right? Source
  • Thomas: I have a OUAT question. Can you tell us why Peter Pan wants the heart of a true believer? What can belief do?
    Five points to you, as executive producer Adam Horowitz is glad people are asking that very question. "What we didn't want to do was do a villain who just wants world domination and wants to do something terrible," he explains. "What we wanted was someone who had a really character-based motivation for why belief was important to him and why the truest believer was important to him. That's the story we're going to unfurl in these first 11 [episodes]." Source
  • I was wondering if you knew if (or when) Once Upon a Time‘s Neal would go to Neverland? Based on some cast photos that were tweeted, it looked like he might show up there. –Allie
    Or, Michael Raymond-James was just photo bombing his pals on their own set…? Because Neal’s road home will not be an easy one. “This show never seems to be short in the obstacles department,” Raymond-James shares. “It’s one of those things where the answer to one problem usually leads to seven more problems that one needs to overcome. So there’s some tough sledding ahead, I’ll say that.”
    How has Once Upon a Time‘s Emma not questioned or had a glimmer of hope that Neal might have been saved? –ratinhos
    Fair point. So we asked Jennifer Morrison if Emma might start to somehow “sense” that Neal survived his portal plunge. But she maintained, “They have no sense in Neverland what happened with Neal.” And as for Emma’s instincts, “Because of everything she has been through — and especially having been through so much loss with Neal — for her own sanity, she has to assume that he is dead.”
    Any clues on Regina’s Once Upon a Time love interest? –Natalie
    You think you’re anxious to meet Regina’s romantic interest? How about poor Lana Parrilla, who when we saw her on the set Thursday had yet to start shooting that storyline. But with an eye on it, she said, “I’m like, ‘What?! I don’t think she’s kissed anyone in like 200 years.’ Well, [except for] the Huntsman. But there is something coming up. And I will say: Regina has not met him. But maybe the audience has.” Source
  • What's going to happen to Charming on Once Upon a Time?! — Mary
    NATALIE: "He dies," jokes executive producer Adam Horowitz. Relax. He's not dead — yet — but Peter Pan did say that Emma would leave Neverland as an orphan. "Peter Pan is a guy of his word. This is a terrible circumstance he's found himself in. It's also a circumstance that's going to get worse and more complicated," says Horowitz. Fellow executive producer Edward Kitsis adds that the Dreamshade poisoning will bring out the true essence of Prince Charming's noble, heroic nature. "The way he deals with adversity is truly practicing what he preaches. He's going to put his family first even at the risk of his own life." Ruh-roh. Source
  • Question: I heard that TVLine visited the Once Upon a Time set recently to interview the cast. Did Emilie de Ravin give anything away about what Belle will be doing in Storybrooke? –Tara
    Ausiello: Sort of. At the time our Vlada Gelman saw de Ravin last Thursday, the actress shared, “I just shot some stuff in Storybrooke, actually, and it was nice to work with people there who I hadn’t usually worked with.” On the presumably non-Storybrooke front, de Ravin also revealed that Belle makes a new friend “who may be a mermaid. And that’s been really fun.” Source



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Dr. Whale is in Episode 9. I assume in present day SB. At least we know that SB is getting some stuff too.
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Dr. Whale is in Episode 9. I assume in present day SB. At least we know that SB is getting some stuff too.
yeah, I hope we see SB soon. What did they say episode 6?
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yeah, I hope we see SB soon. What did they say episode 6?
I don't know. I can't remember when VanCity first had outside shots in SB. I know Belle is in Episode 6. She was in the makeup room with Lana. But that could just be for a flashback or Belle in NL. I'm thinking maybe Ariel shows up in SB at the end of 6?
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I don't know. I can't remember when VanCity first had outside shots in SB. I know Belle is in Episode 6. She was in the makeup room with Lana. But that could just be for a flashback or Belle in NL. I'm thinking maybe Ariel shows up in SB at the end of 6?
I've been thinking how all this might fit together...It fell into place (maybe) when I read that Wendy is in ep 7, not 8, which makes things much less confusing.

We know that Emilie and Joanna filmed at least two Belle/Ariel SB scenes (beach and pawn shop exteriors). If these are for ep 6, then I think Ariel might show up in SB near the BEGINNING of the ep, and her FTL flashbacks with Snow (and presumably Eric and Regina, and possibly Belle) and the NVL story with the gang, and probably Eric, show how she got there and what her deal is.

Then in ep 7 we have SB flashbacks to immediately after Team Henry left. Belle is on the dock with the townsfolk and casts the cloaking spell, and we see the Darling bros' car; either they've just arrived or they've been sleepers all along. Emilie's scenes with the Darlings would also be for 7, and maybe are also flashbacks to just after the JR left, because if not, where is Ariel? And the FTL/NL flashbacks would be how Pan caught the Darlings after all, and maybe the Pan origin story. Question: Any possibility of Dylan!Bae filming recently? I think VanCity tweeted him recently but who knows. Because it does seem important that we learn how he felt when (if?) the Darlings ended up in Pan's clutches despite his sacrifice. I wonder if that could have contributed to Neal's apparent belief that anyone (aka Emma) would be better off without him.

Ep 8, possibly another Rumple centric, would be filming now, or started last week, when Bobby tweeted that selfie in early Rumple garb.

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In 3.2: Hook couldn't hear the crying of the Lost Boys. Plot hole, or subtle hint that he was lying about being abandoned?

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Dr. Whale is in Episode 9.
Did David say that? It could be part of the Regina adoption storyline. Like she goes to him wondering why she can't get pregnant. (Although clearly he can't tell her the real reason, ie. that time in SB doesn't pass.)

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The promo pics are adorable! It's bittersweet to see bb!Regina looking so happy and carefree with Tink, because we know that didn't last...

Question: We get a pretty good view of Tink's wand in the promo pics. It's definitely NOT one of the ones we've seen Rumple use/collect?

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Maybe even when Neal gets to NVL if what Eliza is feeling about a Neal/Tink interaction could be true. And then instead of her being jealous of Wendy she'll be jealous of Emma for her man showing an interest in someone else..lol
Adam did suggest it would be a love rhombus....

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There has to be more to it, just from Emilie's comments, and Adam and even Jennifer last night said "you'll see eventually" when someone asked how Belle was in NL. We found out last night from her that he conjured her there, etc. So I think they're saying that that's not it, that there is more to it.
Which to me also implies that it's a Pan plot. Rumple seems to have dismissed that possibility so it's probably true.

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Did David say that? It could be part of the Regina adoption storyline. Like she goes to him wondering why she can't get pregnant. (Although clearly he can't tell her the real reason, ie. that time in SB doesn't pass.)
I didn't think of that. You're right. That could be what it's about. I was hoping for more present day SB stuff.

The Darling brothers, if that's who they are, and I think they are, is interesting about why they're in SB. I don't think anymore that Belle goes to NL though. But there must be some twist to her appearing there. At least it's interesting.

Tinkerbelle looks fun. It would be funny if she turned out to be evil. The Disney version didn't make her out to be some good girl anyway.
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I I don't think anymore that Belle goes to NL though. But there must be some twist to her appearing there. At least it's interesting.
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You don't? I'm still holding out hope she gets there eventually (though I agree it won't be for a long time--8 at the earliest, most likely 10).
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You don't? I'm still holding out hope she gets there eventually (though I agree it won't be for a long time--8 at the earliest, most likely 10).
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't know anymore. I'm leaning toward her not going. I think any adventuring this year at least will be done in flashbacks to the past. On the other hand, Ariel has to get back to NL somehow and the Darling boys have got to be up to something. I was thinking maybe PP would overhear Rumple speaking to Belle. We know she's going to pop up quite a bit, from what they've said, and that they came there for her.

I don't know of any other reason they would come to SB, unless there is something in Gold's shop of magical objects that they need or want.

I have wondered though at what Emilie said about her. I wonder why she didn't just disappear or evaporate like a dream would, but physically walked away. It seems like there is a twist coming but I'm not sure what it is.

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Dr. Whale is in Episode 9. I assume in present day SB. At least we know that SB is getting some stuff too.
We're getting SB flashbacks to show how Regina adopted Henry in 3x09, so I think he's part of that.

Emilie went back to LA after she filmed with those 2 guys(i think for episode 8) and did those interviews on set. So I'm thinking she's not even in episode 9.

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I have wondered though at what Emilie said about her. I wonder why she didn't just disappear or evaporate like a dream would, but physically walked away. It seems like there is a twist coming but I'm not sure what it is.
Yeah I feel like there has to be a little more to it than her just being part of Rumple's imagination, based on what Emilie said: "That's sort of a really cool reveal later on. I think fans will be interested and shocked at what kind of Belle that is further on down the road."
Also, when asked about what's going on with Belle in NL, both Jennifer and Adam basically said to keep watching and it will be revealed later on. If it's just what we all assume, that Rumple conjured her up and that's it, what would need to be revealed later?
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Then in ep 7 we have SB flashbacks to immediately after Team Henry left. Belle is on the dock with the townsfolk and casts the cloaking spell, and we see the Darling bros' car; either they've just arrived or they've been sleepers all along. Emilie's scenes with the Darlings would also be for 7, and maybe are also flashbacks to just after the JR left, because if not, where is Ariel? And the FTL/NL flashbacks would be how Pan caught the Darlings after all, and maybe the Pan origin story. Question: Any possibility of Dylan!Bae filming recently? I think VanCity tweeted him recently but who knows. Because it does seem important that we learn how he felt when (if?) the Darlings ended up in Pan's clutches despite his sacrifice. I wonder if that could have contributed to Neal's apparent belief that anyone (aka Emma) would be better off without him.
Okay this part confuses me I haven't heard anything about the Darlings in Storybrooke, I did hear that we will see the Darlings again but not in Storybrooke.
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Thanks for the thread!

I've been thinking how all this might fit together...It fell into place (maybe) when I read that Wendy is in ep 7, not 8, which makes things much less confusing.

We know that Emilie and Joanna filmed at least two Belle/Ariel SB scenes (beach and pawn shop exteriors). If these are for ep 6, then I think Ariel might show up in SB near the BEGINNING of the ep, and her FTL flashbacks with Snow (and presumably Eric and Regina, and possibly Belle) and the NVL story with the gang, and probably Eric, show how she got there and what her deal is.

Then in ep 7 we have SB flashbacks to immediately after Team Henry left. Belle is on the dock with the townsfolk and casts the cloaking spell, and we see the Darling bros' car; either they've just arrived or they've been sleepers all along. Emilie's scenes with the Darlings would also be for 7, and maybe are also flashbacks to just after the JR left, because if not, where is Ariel? And the FTL/NL flashbacks would be how Pan caught the Darlings after all, and maybe the Pan origin story. Question: Any possibility of Dylan!Bae filming recently? I think VanCity tweeted him recently but who knows. Because it does seem important that we learn how he felt when (if?) the Darlings ended up in Pan's clutches despite his sacrifice. I wonder if that could have contributed to Neal's apparent belief that anyone (aka Emma) would be better off without him.

Ep 8, possibly another Rumple centric, would be filming now, or started last week, when Bobby tweeted that selfie in early Rumple garb.

Random thing I noticed in 3.2: Hook couldn't hear the crying of the Lost Boys. Plot hole, or subtle hint that he was lying about being abandoned?

Did David say that? It could be part of the Regina adoption storyline. Like she goes to him wondering why she can't get pregnant. (Although clearly he can't tell her the real reason, ie. that time in SB doesn't pass.)

The promo pics are adorable! It's bittersweet to see bb!Regina looking so happy and carefree with Tink, because we know that didn't last...

Question: We get a pretty good view of Tink's wand in the promo pics. It's definitely NOT one of the ones we've seen Rumple use/collect?

From last thread:

Adam did suggest it would be a love rhombus....

Which to me also implies that it's a Pan plot. Rumple seems to have dismissed that possibility so it's probably true.
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