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Once Upon A Time S&S #71: Every fairytale has a dark side
credit: MaybeLove. CAST Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina Jared Gilmore as Henry Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby Emilie de Ravin as Belle Colin O'Donoghue as Captain Hook CREW Adam Horowitz, executive producer and writer Jane Espenson, writer Liz Tigelaar, writer Andrew Chambliss, writer promotional pictures of the cast Comic Con Posters Show Posters Official Season Two Posters Master storytellers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz ("Lost," "Tron: Legacy") invite everyone to Storybrooke, Maine, a small town that probably won't show up on one's GPS, but it's a place where magic is coming! UPCOMING EPISODES CASTING & GUEST STARS SET PICS
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I feel bad for Regina I really do. She's one of my favorites. I may not be an evil Regal, but it doesn't mean I dont want her story told. I want her to have Henry, get redemption, etc. Just as many Regina fans can relate to her and see her differently, I see Rumple that way too. I cringe when he does bad things, and see it was a step backwards in his redemption. But I feel for him more, I cant say why, I just do. I'm drawn to him. Just as many Regina fans are drawn to her, and her story. This shouldn't divide us. There shouldn't be more blame on one side than the other. I dont post dislike, etc on the appreciation threads for Rumple, because I dont dislike her, and I do feel that her story has been neglected by the writers. We see their stories from different points but really none of us are wrong. __________________
RumplestiltskinBelle. "Love only brought me pain. My walls were up. But you brought them down. You brought me home. You brought light into my life and chased away all the darkness" ~ Rumplestiltskin
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Carrying this over. I won't continue to rehash this but just a response back to those who responded to me on how I see some things: Quote:
As for the Charmings, I get why it's more personalized with Regina, as Regina actually became Snow's stepmother, not Rumple, and she's the target of Regina's rage. But even with this in place ... recent events still don't make sense with the Charming I saw working with Cinderella and Thomas to lock Rumple away because he was considered the most dangerous in all the realms. Nor does it align with S2 events like tricking Emma to get his hands on the true love potion in order to release magic in SB. Nor Emma discovering that Gold created the curse and made her the Savior in the first place. Most recently, Gold threatened the Charming Clan when it came to Belle's safety. Why does this get glossed over like it's no big deal?! The next morning, Charming is shaking hands with Gold telling him his declaration of nothing happening to his family {emma + henry} is a request, not a threat. Sorry, the writing for this is just way off for me. Gold was also more than willing to allow Emma and Snow to die when they attempted to come back home through the magical portal {and by now I'm not buying it was just for the sake of SB but because of The Miller's Daughter, has more to do with him}, it was Regina who rejected the idea at first, and Gold who used manipulation to get her to go along with it. In the end, she went on faith like Henry pleaded and came through, allowing the chance for Henry to be reunited with them. So, yeah, I wouldn't say Gold's intentions are pure or that Clan Charming is safe from Gold just because Regina has had more direct confrontation with them. He just plays from behind the scenes when it suits him and that is just as dangerous if not moreso. Regina is a threat they can more than likely see coming. So, in theory, trusting him wouldn't make sense either. None of this has truly been resolved or anything. Quote:
And so in theory, if Rumple is just truthful about what he did {or accepting as you've worded it}, but not really apologetic, that's the only qualifications required of Regina in order to make her more acceptable?! See, that's why I can't really get fully onboard for this whole big 'showdown' that's been pumped up for The Miller's Daughter. I just can't buy into the notion that one character with a villainous past gets preference over another one with a villanious past, and the good guys rush to the aide of one, who is someone who can be just as much of a threat if he wants to be. Even in the season premiere, when the Charmings intervened with Regina and the wraith, David|Charming still suggested stepping out if it, that it was Regina's problem, not theirs. And the whole town was at risk, so it wasn't like this was being done to only spare Regina. Emma only followed through with that because of her promise to Henry. This may have started out with Snow and Charming trying to keep the dagger away from Cora but I see it evolving into much more as Neal is now in the 'fight' too. Rumple is being fought for because he is 'family', and that's the impression I'm receiving. Regina is being fought against because she has no real family, has the unfortunate 'curse' of being Cora's daughter, and will stand with her to get Henry because she has nobody else and is desperate. Like I said, I have major issues with the writing treatment here. __________________
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I just saw the new pictures of Rose as Cora and she looks great. I can't wait to see Cora's episode. __________________
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Favourites Little Things Really David? FFS dude get some brains into the mix and i'm looking at you too Neal, seriously SWORDS v Magic . __________________
Rupert hardly speaks. You're lucky to get anything out of him these days, he just has a wicked sense of humor and he's very eccentric and very unique in the way that he does things. He's like a big kid. I feel like he'll never grow up, which I love. |
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They don't really have much choice. It may seem stupid, but they are taking a stand to fight for their lives. If Cora commands the Dark One, they are all dead anyway and Regina will take Henry.
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Emma is the only one who has magic so the others have to find a way to defend themselves. Maybe those are special swords? Rumpel seems to keep a lot of things in his shop.
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Also, I guess you don't think it's a big deal that Rumple at least admitted that he created the curse to everyone and took responsibility, but that's way more than Regina has done. She's still blaming Snow for everything! She even blames Snow for everyone calling her the Evil Queen. The woman sacrificed children to get what she wanted in True North. I mean...to me she is just kind of crazy for not realizing and admitting at least some fault of her own. I don't think it's bad writing treatment. I think this is just what happens to a character who is so far from redemption because they're still blaming innocent people and convincing themselves of lies to justify their evil actions. I guess we'll just agree to disagree because you don't seem to think that Regina even needs to at least be honest about the things she has done before she can find some happiness. Regardless, I think Regina will eventually get there. Lana plays the character so well and I'm rooting for her. I just think that Regina and Rumple are on different paths and each storyline has it's own timing. |
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I dont post dislike, etc on the appreciation threads for Rumple, because I dont dislike her, and I do feel that her story has been neglected by the writers. We see their stories from different points but really none of us are wrong. __________________
RumplestiltskinBelle. "Love only brought me pain. My walls were up. But you brought them down. You brought me home. You brought light into my life and chased away all the darkness" ~ Rumplestiltskin
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