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Old 01-12-2013, 08:06 PM
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The Vampire Diaries Spoilers & Speculation Thread #148


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Season 4 Spoilers

4x10 - After School Special - 1/17
Written by Brett Matthews
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REBEKAH IS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE — Appearing unexpectedly at Mystic Falls High, Rebekah wastes no time trying to force Stefan, Elena and Caroline to answer her questions about the search for a cure, leading to a bombshell piece of information from Elena. When Bonnie’s father, Rudy Owens, accepts the role of Interim Mayor, he makes it a priority to protect his daughter, who isn’t at all comfortable with the role he suddenly wants to play in her life. Professor Shane continues to encourage Bonnie to believe in her powers, but he soon finds himself in danger when he reveals too much to the wrong person. Later, Caroline does her best to comfort Tyler after a violent confrontation. Meanwhile, at the lake house, Damon and Matt train Jeremy, trying to raise his game as a hunter, but Klaus is impatient with their progress and intervenes to speed up the process. David Von Ancken directed the episode.
[Bonnie's dad coming] [Rudy as Bonnie's father] [Bfeakfast club-like revelations! (SE)] [JP tweets: Kol/Bonnie scene confirmed] [Rebekah's return] Klaus & Shane "Showdown"] [Questionable stills] [Detention plans & both triangles]
[Elena's mind on Damon, Stefan and Jeremy] [Trapped with nowhere to go, & a new mayor]

4x11 - Catch Me If You Can - 1/24
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A NEW DANGER — Jeremy is furious when Klaus tries to control him by putting Matt’s life in danger. Damon coaches Jeremy as he prepares to take on Klaus’ new vampires, but they find that Kol has beaten them to it. Kol makes it clear that he will stop at nothing to convince everyone to give up the search for the cure. Looking for a new ally, Rebekah reminds Stefan that they were once close friends. When Sheriff Forbes and Mayor Hopkins question Shane about his involvement in the Founders’ Council deaths, Bonnie steps in with questions of her own, and Shane’s responses push Bonnie to the edge of her powers. Elena negotiates with Klaus to keep Jeremy safe, but when danger suddenly appears from a totally unexpected enemy, Elena comes up with her own daring plan for Jeremy.

4x12- A View to Kill - 1/31
Written by Rebecca Sonnenshine
DANGEROUS LIAISONS — When Rebekah turns down Klaus’ plea to stop Kol and protect Jeremy, Klaus turns to Stefan for help. After an angry confrontation with her father, Mayor Hopkins, over his unconventional approach to ending the violence in Mystic Falls, Bonnie has a frightening run-in with Kol, followed by an unexpected visitor. Klaus complicates the already tense feelings between Stefan and Damon by revealing a bit of Stefan’s personal life, then surprises Damon by asking for personal advice. Elena (Nina Dobrev) tells Stefan about her dangerous plan for Jeremy, leaving Stefan in a difficult spot. When the high school’s 1980s Decade Dance is cancelled by Mayor Hopkins, Stefan finds a charming way to make it up to a disappointed Rebekah.

Will Air Episodes 10-15 and break 2/21. Will return with episode 16 on 3/14.


General Spoilers: (most recent first)
[More about the spinoff] [Someone's EXTENDED absence??!! (not hayley)] [Spin-off nonsense] [Damon biting someone 4x16] [Stebekah going down?] [Blind item: not about caroline, but might she die?] [Elena: loss, guilt,& protectiveness] [4x09 Logic Fails] [Tyler's reaction to Klaus] [Hints about cure "sacrifice"] [JP interview post mid-season finale] [7 Mid-season finale questions] [Both tringles, jeremy, shane] [Camping stills from Molina] [Vaughn 4x13] [Klaus, originals, & drama] [Second half of season & Professor Shane] [Jeremy & Bonnie] [70"s flashback, katherine return?] [JP tweets: katherine sire, tvd ending, delena sire] [JP tweets:KC in 4x13/14 and delena] [JP tweets post 4x09] [JP interview post 4x09] [Klaus] [Candice accola interview] [Klaus "mind blowing horrors"] [Another damon picture] [on set: damon bleeding (4x16?) [Shane's got motive] [Caroline focused on tyler] [Sire related stuff] [BLIND ITEM: either pll, tvd, ouat, bbt, or gg] [Paul interview: video] [Elijah coming back 4x15 or 4x16] [4x07 review/spoilers] [Interview about shane] [beach photo] [Filming on "alaskan" beach] [Stefan losing his marbles] [Elijah coming back 4x15 or 4x16] [Returning characters cast list] [Will Kelena ever go head to head?] [Vaughn & Caitlin 4x13] [JP on elena's kill, jeremy's storyline, bromance, the cure] [Tyler on a mission] [5 Spoilery Bits] [Season 4 Secrets] [Hayley's motives] [Hope for Klaroline?] [JP on season 4] [Caroline Tyler & Klaus] [Damon & Meredith bond] [Season 4 Promo Paul/Nina/Ian][Season 4 gets an extra episode as the love triangle gets bloody] [Jamie on the back burner]

Interviews with the Cast/EPs:
Julie Plec [Before 4x04] [TV Addict][post premiere interview][Triangle reset][Starrymag] [Examiner] [Hollywoodreporter] [Wetpaint] [Fanhattan] [TVline]
Kevin Williamson [Elena's Season 4 Journey 'Won't Be Easy']
Candice Accola [Helping Elena and on Klaus in Tyler's body]
Paul Wesley [Guilt and Elena turning]
Ian Somerhalder [Delena][Bad boy Damon's not pining] [Elena compulsion]
Daniel Gillies [Elijahs S4 return] [Flashback spoilers]
Zack Roerig[Matt, Rebekah, and missing Matt Davis][Moral compass] [Drastic changes in MF]
Torrey Devitto [Sticking around]
Joseph Morgan [Episode 4.04]

Casting News:
Rick Worthy as Rudy Owens (4x10) [1] [2]
Charlie Bewley as Vaughn (4x13)
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I don't EVER want to see the name calling and disrespectfulness I read on the previous thread again. This thread has been warned too many times for this to be an every week occurrence. Nikki, Jess, and myself shouldn't have to tell any of you to be civil to one another and RESPECT the fact they none of you are ever going to see eye to eye. And I do believe you guys have been told, if it isn't about spoilers or you aren't speculating than this thread shouldn't move. So discussing the ratings, screen time, or a character's purpose doesn’t belong here.
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Thanks for the reminder Meredith.

I don't want this thread to get closed but lately things get out of control all the time.


About the originals spin off...I think it could work out but it all depends on the storyline. I understand why the CW wants to use the show's popularity and see if they can get another hit. I just hope that if they do it they include all the originals. I just wonder what the family will do in their own show. I think it could be a hit or a miss but it will all depend on the main storyline.
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Thanks for the reminder Meredith.

I don't want this thread to get closed but lately things get out of control all the time.


About the originals spin off...I think it could work out but it all depends on the storyline. I understand why the CW wants to use the show's popularity and see if they can get another hit. I just hope that if they do it they include all the originals. I just wonder what the family will do in their own show. I think it could be a hit or a miss but it will all depend on the main storyline.
I want that too. I want all of the original to be on the show,and I want all of them to survive. However I do not think that will happen as long as Jeremy need to finish his Hunter's mark. I think Kol,Elijah or Rebecca might be killed off by the end of the season. I am really interested in learning more about Kol. He the only original that haven't been feature in a episode.

I sure this spoiler was posted on the other thread,but I'm going to post it again:



This is Carina's chat from someone who was there:
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Carina doesn't think that Damon is going to die, there is a cool twist with the cure, the only way to break the sire bond is for ELENA to become human, she does think that Damon wants to be human again though, we will find out a lot more about the cure in 4x13, she doesn't know if the sire bond will be broken this season, DE will be reunited much sooner than Damon has planned. Tyler is not an alpha anymore because his pack is dead. Someone is going to take a VERY extended absence from the show in the next 5 eps. she couldn't tell us if a female character was going to die, but that is when she brought up the extended absence and she made a point to say it is NOT Hailey, but she doesn't think Hailey is going to stick around long because she betrayed everyone and Shane doesn't need her anymore. She couldn't answer the question of why Elena is confiding in Stefan in 4x12 and keeping Damon in the dark.Stefan is going to find out how deeply Elena's feeling for Damon are this week!


I know someone is going to die, does anyone think it's April?. I hope it's not Rebecca, but I keep going back to the spoiler that was posted at the beginning of the season about Jeremy going after Rebecca. It could be Meredith, but she haven't been in a episode in a while . It like the writers totally forgot that she was on the show. However with Shane having the power to bring back the dead, I can see them killing off Caroline. Killing off Caroline is one way of getting everyone on the Shane train even Tyler. Stefan will do it because he is Caroline's friend. Bonnie wouldn't mind doing expression magic if it means saving her friend. Klaus and Tyler will work together because both of them like Caroline . Rebecca will do it because Caroline was nice to her,and she was Stefan's friend. So Caroline's death will be one way of pulling the group together,and giving their support to Shane.

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Thanks for my reminder! I, from my part, I can promise that I won't go on that argument EVER again.

Does anyone have a link for Carina's chat? I missed it, and I wanted to know if she said anything about Tyler and Caroline. If someone read it already, maybe you can update me. Thanks.

Personally, I don't think they'll kill off Caroline.
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I'm sorry, since when was having a negative opinion on an actor considered bashing? If it were an actor you didn't care for that she "insulted", then you wouldn't be popping out of nowhere (because no offense, you're a new face which makes this look pretty coincident) to call her inappropriate. If you're going to disagree, then just disagree without taking it to extremes. It's a personal opinion not "bashing." Wow, lol.
When did I call anyone inappropriate? I'm not a new face and I used to post here and on fanforum in general a lot but seeing all the negativity on here has made me stop posting all together. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that nothing has changed. And you're wrong. If I had seen this about an actor I didn't like I still would call her out on it because these are real people and this is not a thread to discuss whether you think an actor is good at what he does or not. This is a spoilers and speculation thread and (as has been pointed out a lot by the mods to the people who post on this thread) that is what should be discussed.

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So you do realize that what was said was insulting? So I'm not overreacting as you claim.

Anyway, I'm done with this and I won't be discussing it any further because it's just unnecessary and not the place for it. This thread certainly doesn't need any more trouble.

Now, onto things that should be discussed on this thread...
I haven't heard much about the spin-off other than that it won't be set in the past and it will be starring JoMo and Phoebe...for some reason. Does anyone know why Pheobe's starring in it yet? Why not Claire? Isn't the show supposed to revolve around the Originals?

I definitely don't think they'd ever consider killing off Caroline.
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thanks for the warning!

i'm sure that claire will probably be in the spin off as well. i think that they mentioned pheobe tonkins as a way to make her happen for the audience.
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Caroline is never going to die. I think the main three and her are the only 100% safe characters in the show.

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I want that too. I want all of the original to be on the show,and I want all of them to survive. However I do not think that will happen as long as Jeremy need to finish his Hunter's mark. I think Kol,Elijah or Rebecca might be killed off by the end of the season. I am really interested in learning more about Kol. He the only original that haven't been feature in a episode.
I hope they don't kill any of the originals because an original show would be boring if it's just Klaus & Rebekah. I think both characters are great and have strong fanbases but they need more people from TVD so people can get interested in this spin off. Besides Elijah can't be a regular because he's a regular in another show. They need Kol there.


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Now, onto things that should be discussed on this thread...
I haven't heard much about the spin-off other than that it won't be set in the past and it will be starring JoMo and Phoebe...for some reason. Does anyone know why Pheobe's starring in it yet? Why not Claire? Isn't the show supposed to revolve around the Originals?
I like Phoebe but I didn't like Hayley very much. Still I think the character has potential if they develop her properly in the new show.
However, I don't understand what her role might be. Klaus can't turn her into a hybrid. Maybe something linked to the werewolves? It would be interesting if they explore Klaus werewolf bloodline.
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what show is daniel a regular on?

it seems obvious now that pheobe's character was introduced not to have any following on TVD but so that the audience would be introduced to her for when she is transported to the spin off.
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Can you imagine if they created a new love triangle with Hayley between two brothers, Klaus and Kol?
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what show is daniel a regular on?
I think it was called Saving Hope.

It's weird that they didn't mention the others though. I mean, I'm sure Claire will be on it as well but why isn't she starring? Why is Phoebe? Unless she has some sort of connection with the Originals, this doesn't really make any sense...
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I think it was called Saving Hope.

It's weird that they didn't mention the others though. I mean, I'm sure Claire will be on it as well but why isn't she starring? Why is Phoebe? Unless she has some sort of connection with the Originals, this doesn't really make any sense...
In one of the lastest conventions, it has been said there's gonna be upcoming scenes between Kol and Hayley. Probably something is gonna happen to make them interact, and anyway her and Klaus already kinda helped each other. As far as I'm concerned, Pheobe may even be an Original, considering her actions.
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