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Old 11-15-2012, 09:47 PM
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The Vampire Diaries S&S #127: because miss mystic falls is right around the corner


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Season 4 Spoilers

4x07 - My Brother's Keeper - 11/29
Written by Caroline Dries and Elisabeth Finch
Photos | Promo | Extended Promo | Canadian Promo | Sneak peeks
THE MISS MYSTIC FALLS PAGEANT — Caroline does her best to be there for Stefan and Elena in a tough time. Damon tries to convince Stefan to help him uncover Prof. Shane’s motives, but Stefan is intent on carrying out a different plan with Klaus. At the annual Miss Mystic Falls Pageant, Elena and Caroline give April advice on which dress to wear, while Tyler and Hayley work together on a secret project, and Damon confronts Prof. Shane with his suspicions. Alarmed by the vivid nightmares he’s having, Jeremy turns to Matt for help, but the situation escalates sooner than anyone expected. Olympic Gold Medalist Gabrielle Douglas also makes an appearance.
[Gabby Douglas cameo] [Miss Mystic Falls and a dance] [Episode 7 advice lol] [Matt taking Elena to MMF (4x07)] [Klaus taking Caroline] [Caroline may be cracking] [Will Caroline compromise her morals for Klaus?] [JP interview 11/8] [Mirroring season 1] [Tweets about "mirroring" scene] [Caroline in episode 7] [spoilers posted on FB, not all legitimate] [Delena dancing] [Steroline discovery and bonding]

4x08 - We'll Always Have Bourbon Street - 12/6
Written by Jose Molina and Charlie Charbonneau
Photos 2| Promo | Extended Promo | Canadian Promo | Sneak peeks
A FLASHBACK TO NEW ORLEANS IN 1942 — When Stefan ({Paul Wesley) confronts Damon (Ian Somerhalder) with a suspicion about Elena (Nina Dobrev), Damon has no choice but to help Stefan investigate. Searching for answers, Damon and Stefan visit modern day New Orleans to see if they can find anyone who remembers the events of their last visit in 1942, including one of Damon’s former flames, Charlotte (guest star Madeline Zima). Elena, Caroline (Candice Accola) and Bonnie (Kat Graham) share a girls’ night while the Salvatore brothers are out of town, and emotions run high when Elena delivers some shocking news. At Hayley’s (guest star Phoebe Tonkin) urging, Tyler (Michael Trevino) confronts one of Klaus’ hybrids, Kimberly (guest star Alyssa Diaz), and the situation quickly escalates into violence. Finally, Damon is faced with a heartbreaking decision.
[Klaus' ex-girlfriend, Damon's witch] [WWII Flashback! (4.08)] [Casting: Adrian will appear] [Casting: Nandi, witch (sides)] [Charlotte casted] [Casting call for flashback] [Defan looking for answers]

4x09 - Oh Come, All Ye Faithful - 12/13
Written by Michael J. Cinquemani and Julie Plec
Photos 2| Promo | Extended Promo | Canadian Promo | Sneak peeks
A WINTER WONDERLAND IN MYSTIC FALLS — As a Winter Wonderland-themed party fills the streets of Mystic Falls, Stefan and Caroline find themselves at odds with Tyler over his plans for Klaus and his hybrids. When Caroline proposes a solution to their problem, Hayley finds a dramatic way to make it clear that she is not on board. Later, Klaus makes a discovery that leads to chaos and violence. Meanwhile, Elena and Damon retreat to the Gilbert Lake House to help Jeremy conquer some dangerous inner demons with the help of Bonnie and Professor Shane, who reveals a piece of ancient history that leaves them all speechless. Zach Roerig also stars.
[A winterland charity event] [Zap2it - crazy episode]


General Spoilers: (most recent first)
[Returning characters cast list] [Will Kelena ever go head to head?] [Hayley throwing a wrench in things] [Vaughn & Caitlin 4x13] [Blind item: sex] [JP post 4x05] [JP on elena's kill, jeremy's storyline, bromance, the cure] [Tyler on a mission] [Pheobe Tonkin about Hayley] [JP about 4x06-4x09] [JP interview before 4x04] [Will elena take feeding too far?] [5 Spoilery Bits] [Connor Drama] [Season 4 Secrets] [Hayley's motives] [Caroline's jeaaaloussss!] [Caroline turns to Klaus] [Will elena kiss damon?, major deaths coming] [Hope for Klaroline?] [Stealing Klaus's thunder] [JP on season 4] [Damon missing Alaric] [Rudy as Bonnie's father] [Caroline Tyler & Klaus] [Damon helping in transition] [Damon & Meredith bond] [Ian about Delena] [Bonnie's dad coming] [Elena as a vampire] [Elena Dilemmas and a lonely Damon] [Phoebe Tonkin Talks 'Vampire Diaries'] [Crash course in Vampirism 101 for Elena] [Season 4 Promo Paul/Nina/Ian][Season 4 gets an extra episode as the love triangle gets bloody] [Jamie on the back burner]

Episode Recaps:
[4x01] [4x02] [4x05 (tyler)] [4x05]

Interviews with the Cast/EPs:
Julie Plec [Before 4x04] [TV Addict][post premiere interview][Triangle reset][Starrymag] [Examiner] [Hollywoodreporter] [Wetpaint] [Fanhattan] [TVline]
Kevin Williamson [Elena's Season 4 Journey 'Won't Be Easy']
Candice Accola [Helping Elena and on Klaus in Tyler's body]
Paul Wesley [Guilt and Elena turning]
Ian Somerhalder [Delena][Bad boy Damon's not pining] [Elena compulsion]
Daniel Gillies [Elijahs S4 return] [Flashback spoilers]
Zack Roerig[Matt, Rebekah, and missing Matt Davis][Moral compass] [Drastic changes in MF]
Torrey Devitto [Sticking around]
Joseph Morgan [Episode 4.04]

Casting News:
Todd Williams as Connor (4x02) [1] [2]
Grace Phipps as April Young (4x02)
Phoebe Tonkin as Hayley (4x03) [1] [2]
David Alpay as Professor Shane (4x04) [1]
Paul Telfer as Alexander (4x04 flashback) [1] [2]
Blake Hood as Dean, a hybrid (4x05)
Alyssa Diaz as Kimberly, a hybrid (4x06)
[Michah Parker as Adrian (4x08)]
Rick Worthy as Rudy Owens (4x10) [1] [2]
Charlie Bewley as Vaughn (4x13)

Comic-Con:
Panel [1] [2] [3]
[Michael Trevino/Zach Roerig] [Steven R. McQueen] [Julie Plec]

Post-Finale-Interviews:
[Zap2it] [InsideTV] [Hollywoodlife] [Examiner] [Spoilerguide]
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:34 PM
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Waiting for two weeks sucks >c
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:29 PM
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Agree!

I agree with all those that said this was a well-written episode. Very heartbreaking ending for Stefan and Elena, but we all knew it was coming.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:41 PM
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in all honesty, i kinda think the ep had some points for delena and stelena. elena admitted to feelings for damon on the basis of her feelings being amplified due to her turning. plus, she never admitted to loving damon, or not loving stefan. on the other hand, stelena is definately on a break, since stefan had to endure her telling him she wants to be with his brother.
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Ohh, I have to say. Major points for Tyler being the only person in Mystic Falls that sees the problem in sacrificing innocent people for Elena's sake.
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ik i totally agree. i got shocked when caroline said 'but chris wasn't a friend.' you cannot trade one life for another. no one is more valuable than another because you think they are your friend.
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Ohh, I have to say. Major points for Tyler being the only person in Mystic Falls that sees the problem in sacrificing innocent people for Elena's sake.
Yeah, I'm truly sick of that, it will definitely make things more interesting once we see them put a stop to putting Elena before everything else. I like her, but gotta be realistic
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ik i totally agree. i got shocked when caroline said 'but chris wasn't a friend.' you cannot trade one life for another. no one is more valuable than another because you think they are your friend.
Totally. Just because Chris wasn't Elena's friend, doesn't mean that he wasn't anyone else's friend. In all honesty, I'm not saying Elena should die or not be cured, but Elena's friends, or anyone else for that matter, should not be thrown under a bus for the sake of "saving" or "rescuing" her.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:16 AM
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WELL WELL WELL, looks like I was right! My original prediction was that SE would have their break-up before DE got together, sometime before the mid-season finale, on it, or a little bit after, and it looks like it has finally happened.

And I still don't trust that this is definite lol. I'm sorry, but fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice...

Nope. Not trusting it. The way that they had Elena talking to Stefan...ugh, cringe worthy. So the human you felt nothing for Damon, but now you magically do? Shut up, lol. Such BS writing, or such denial on Elena's part...still.
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Totally. Just because Chris wasn't Elena's friend, doesn't mean that he wasn't anyone else's friend. In all honesty, I'm not saying Elena should die or not be cured, but Elena's friends, or anyone else for that matter, should not be thrown under a bus for the sake of "saving" or "rescuing" her.
ITA. especially since he was helping Stefan get Elena back from Klaus( she just had already escaped). He didn't even want to help. Tyler told him that he wouldn't let anything happen to him and then he gets killed.
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WELL WELL WELL, looks like I was right! My original prediction was that SE would have their break-up before DE got together, sometime before the mid-season finale, on it, or a little bit after, and it looks like it has finally happened.

And I still don't trust that this is definite lol. I'm sorry, but fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice...

Nope. Not trusting it. The way that they had Elena talking to Stefan...ugh, cringe worthy. So the human you felt nothing for Damon, but now you magically do? Shut up, lol. Such BS writing, or such denial on Elena's part...still.
Actually Elena said she always had feelings for Damon but they are more intense now. She didn't say as a human she didn't feel sth

I loved the SE scene. It was such a mature and honest conversation between them. And the promo for next episode I can't believe there is a week hiatus
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Will Damon and Elena have sex?


The Vampire Diaries Extended Promo 4x07 - My Brother's Keeper


I really love the extended promo,and I love the music that accomplish it.




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ik i totally agree. i got shocked when caroline said 'but chris wasn't a friend.' you cannot trade one life for another. no one is more valuable than another because you think they are your friend.
I totally agree that you can not trade one life for another. But in all fairness. They all have done it,or thought about it. In season 2 Tyler had stolen Caroline's phone to set up Elena and Stefan in a trap,and he went with Brady to kill Elena and Stefan. He wanted the moonstone,and he thought if they get that he would be cured. ( they didn't know the sun/moon curse wasn't real at that time)

In season 3 Damon and Stefan (especially Stefan) had just about killed all of Klaus's hybids and we did not hear one word of protest coming from Tyler. Even the very rightous Bonnie never spoke out against Damon and Stefan killing Klaus's hybrids. So when Caroline say that he not your friend, what she means to say was since when did you start to care about the other hybrids? Up until Hayley showed up we never got to see Tyler interact with any of the hybrid to get the feeling that he care about them,or cared about what happen to them. Hayley said she had to track Tyler down. I do not know how much of that is true, but if it is true, than that means that Tyler didn't intend on breaking the sire bond on all of Klaus's hybrid,and it was something he though about doing when Hayley showed up on his doorstep. Good for him.
However , Hayley seem to be interested in more than just breaking the hybrid 's sire bond. I think she has design on Tyler. So the more they bond over breaking the sire bond, the more Hayley going to push Caroline out of Tyler's life. Which is find by me. Thanks goodness Caroline has Klaus to console her. I like Klaus and Caroline.

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Ohh, I have to say. Major points for Tyler being the only person in Mystic Falls that sees the problem in sacrificing innocent people for Elena's sake.
The voice of the reason, the only one that doesn't consider Elena as the center of the universe. I think Caroline struggled a little bit more, because Elena is her friend, and if she has to be blamed for something, I think it's caring. I don't even believe she didn't get what Tyler meant, because she seemed understanding to me. I think they really did have no choice. They couldn't do anything different. The power was on other people' hands, once again. I think my emotions get higher when Caroline told him that the reason why Klaus gave up on his hybrids was because she agreed on going out on a date with him All my feelings for these two.
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The Vampire Diaries Extended Promo 4x07 - My Brother's Keeper


I really love the extended promo,and I love the music that accomplish it.
Thank you!

As a DE fan, I seriously don't know how to feel about this episode. It was well written, I'll admit that. But the whole SE and TC thing just got me confused. I felt so terribly bad for Stefan and for Tyler, it was heartbreaking.
And the actor who plays Connor was so badass. I loved his scenes. It really sucks that they killed him off so quickly.
And as for DE, here's my prediction: I think that they'll break up in the season finale. Season five will then be about Elena being alone, without the salvatores. and in season 6 she will once again be conflicted about her feelings for the two brothers, but in the end she'll choose Stefan.

last but not least, kudos to the person here who predicted DE remembering their MMF dance, while watching another couple dance.
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Kudos to JP. I'm always badmouthing her, but she did a great job along with this Evan guy writing last night's episode. She's also one of the writers of the mid-season finale, I hope she does just as a good job.

Someone pointed out last thread the girls aren't dressed as formal as in 1x19... well they aren't contenders anymore, just guests - although Caroline is the reigning miss - so the spotlight isn't on them, which is why they aren't in such formal clothes. I remember Jenna wasn't in such formal clothes back in 1x19.

Do you guys think this Silas myth or whatever Atticus (OMG!) was talking about is the big evil coming? And I also think he has a hidden agenda to help whoever this big evil is (if it doesn't turn out to be himself after some curse or prophecy is concluded). I even think he's the one who led Pr. Young to kill all the council (probably through hypnosis, though I'm still not convinced he's totally human and what he calls hypnosis could be something like compulsion).
Either way I can't wait for this big evil to come for many reasons, the main of them because I really hope they make Klaus an honorary member of their gang. Klaus is still a one man's soldier, he works for himself, but he had shown so far that if he has a common goal with the gang he has no problem working with them. And hoping this new evil is actually a great arc, it could be extended to next season and more reason for Klaus to live.
Now regardless of my love for Klaus, I just hope they don't ret-con the bloodline storyline. I was never a fan of that storyline, I thought it was lame since before it was played out in the show, but if they wrote it, they better stick with it. One of the things I hate about this show is how they always find a loophole in their mythology to undo things that they stated previously that couldn't be undone. And this is big, no magic should be able to stop it from happening...

Now in the biased side of me, I want my hybrid to never die, I want him to live forever. 52y, 4m, 9d... I'll never forget baby, I love you so much, you deserve this multiplied by 10 of happiness, even if you're a jerk, evil, and all the bad words in the dictionary. We, your fans, get why you are the way you are and we'll stick with you til the end.
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