Cherié £u£u

Are there any out there?

Well Tina and Jeff Probst both confirmed that there is a love interest on the show, and it's very much real and not just a show. And Rob M. and Amber are the rumored couple (no surprise there)!

curlyhead

There are a lot of spoilers out there. TWOP, Survivor Sucks and some other sites have the whole elimination list in order. Rob M. and Amber are supposedly the final two.

KryptonMan429

Newbie here...A friend of Cheryl's (Cheri LuLu). I've worked up a VERY in-depth run down of who will go through simple analysis of opening credits and such things like that. Some of it comes from SUCKS, and other places, but most of it is mine. I'll be posting it soon. Probably tomorrow. It will be long, lol.

AmandaVargo

Rupert, Tom, Boston Rob, and Amber is the final four. Rupert and Tom vote for Rob, Amber/Rob vote for Rupert. Rob basically tells Tom out int he open that he will take him to the final two if you vote Rupert out on the second vote and he does. But Rob wins the final immute and takes Amber.

foreva_99

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Glad that someone has started this thread for all our Survivor theories!!

How come everyone knows who the final two are already and how they get there? I didn't think that the episodes had even been aired in America yet. Like the idea of their being a romance between Amber and Rob. That would be cute.

If these rumours are true I am just happy that Jenna (Amazon) and Richard Hatch are not in the final four. I could not have stood that.

MikeyAnne

Someone has actually leaked the larger points of this entire season. The only thing that hasn't been spilled is how the final vote is going to go.

If I were Mark Burnett, I'd be pretty p'od.

Smiles,

Mikey

KryptonMan429

Just because a supposed boot list was posted, doesn't make it true, lol.

In looking at the opening credits, Kathy, Rupert and Colby have VERY different pictures than the rest. Colby and Kathy have the same kind, but Rupert's is different, it's like a movie reel.

I think it will either be Rupert/Amber/Rob M. or Rupert/Kathy/Colby. Final 3.

I'm not ready to believe the boot list that is out yet. Wait until the 5th episode before really deciding to believe it, and even then, the final two could still be wrong. And if not, wow the entire season was spoiled completely, lol.

Would everyone want to post their OWN boot lists? I've done my through TONS of analysis. I'll do my huge writeup soon... Now remember, I have Kathy/Colby/Rupert final three here, but it could very well be Rupert/Amber/Rob M.

I also 100% believe the editing is the exact opposite this time. Tina and Sandra in their seasons were so under the radar. Darrah in PI too. They all went far (obviously). But this time, we know these people, so anything can go in terms of editing. But as for confessionals, Kathy had ONE in Ep 2. while Sue and Amber had 0. It IS rumored a heavy woman and a thin one are in final four. I think either Kathy or Sue. I'm leaning toward Kathy because of her picture in the opening, but heck, anything can go.

Here is my boot list, which will probably change come episode 4 or 5. At least a few will change. By the 5th episode, I'll leave it as it is.

1st. Tina
2nd. Rudy
3rd. Jenna M.
4th. Richard
5th. Jerri
6th. Rob C.
7th. Alicia
8th. Ethan
9th. Sue
10th. Lex
11th. Shii Ann
12th. Tom
13th. Rob M.
14th. Amber
15th. Jenna L.
16th. Colby
17th. Kathy
18th. Rupert

And if you think about it, it could make sense considering who has been featured. I also cannot see Rob M./Amber going the distance. They have an out in the open alliance, most likely after episode 3. If they can go to final two, I say good for them. But early alliances (Rudy/Rupert) go quick. That alliance was made in ep 1. Rudy's gone. Alicia and Rob C. are supposed to be tight and I think they'll be broken up. Lex and Shii Ann supposedly have an alliance (which hasn't been seen yet, if there IS an alliance) that will be broken up. Colby will once again fly under the radar. Amber will to. It's going to be just like previous years, everyone has bigger fish to fry. I've also heard the ending will make fans happy, or not disappoint them, so wouldn't Rupert, Kathy or Colby winning make fans happy? (well, considering if you LIKE any of them, lol, which I do. I'd be thrilled if any one of those three took it home, and remember, all 3 were pegged to win in their respective seasons and lost out)

*I also want to add I'm not entirely sure about the boots for Rob C. or Rich. They could easily be swapped. Rob 4th, Rich 6th. Episode 4's title is "Wipe Out" which could mean a lot of things... I think a merge of some kind will happen and Rich is gone.

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curlyhead

These are not my spoilers. These are supposedly from someone who worked for the show. They sound so probable, but who knows? Mark Burnett is the master in fooling us. For the record, I hope they're not right. I would love to see Kathy, Rob C. or Colby to win.

1. Tina Wesson: Tina did not want to do this show- the media says different, but she was very hesitant and did not seem to be very positive from the beginning- She is the first booted player and while i cannot tell you the vote count (Q knows why) she seems to feel doomed from the start- The tribe does get along well, and even Jerri is kind (at the beginning) In confessionals Jerri does talk about seeing the ouster of Tina and Colby as her main priority- Tina is one you will see that defends her position in survivor history and dismisses this game as a true measure of "survivor"- Jenna and Jerri seem to persuade at least one other to vote off Tina

2. Rudy Boesch -- This tribe does not start off well, and that is obvious- Rudy has lost a few steps since survivor one, Rupert does lie to Rudy- whether or not the final editing shows this or not remaiins to be seen- i just laugh because Rupert is seen as a hero but he is just as bad as those he Criticized in PI- Rudy thinks he is Ok but easily is the second boot- Rupert justifies the boot afterward (as usual) Jenna (leaves cuz somebody in family died, not voted out-symbolic tribal council)

3. Jenna Morasca leaves game, and i guess that is already known- Originally they were not going to make this a huge part of the episode, BUT the overwhelming feelings of the whole cast were evident- Just to make you Jenna fans feel better- She and Colby were going to be targeted anyway- if they had lost i think Jenna would have been the first boot anyway (we will never know for sure)

4. Rob Cesternino - Rob is well liked by his tribemates- believe it or not this tribe really is the love tribe- they all are very respectful of each other- i thought there would be more friction early on in this tribe and it turned out to be just the opposite- In their confessionals- they are mean and dirty- especially ROBM.- he does this the whole game- If things go as orginally planned, alot of this episode talks about Rob C's strategy and i have to admit that he does not see it coming- the editing starts to show the true tribel leader, Rob M as the leader

Swap time

5. Jerri Manthey -- Jerri is the obvious boot in her new living environment- she is one of the very few that leaves with class- she pretty much knows she is going home-nothing too exciting with her

6. Susan Hawke -- Sue thinks she is in a position of power, she is not however Lex and Shi Ann lead to her dismissal

7. Ethan Zohn -- Ethan acts like a jackass pretty much the whole time he is there- he complains alot, on camera and off- he feels that the set up put him in a tough situation- he knows he is going as well- he threatens to quit the show but does not- voted out easily (he really is a pansy) He also talks alot about how the switch put him in a group of people he does not know that well- i dont know if in the end they focus on that

8. Richard Hatch -- Richard loses the most respect of any of the former survivors- his strategy seemed very odd- he wanted to immediately try and minimize his S1 success by acting bizarre- he and Kathy have a huge blowup and the rest join in to vote Richard out- This is the episode where Jeff yells at many of the contestants and they show some of this in this episode- Rich leaves with Rupert calling him "pathetic shell of the survivor 1 champion"

9. Colby Donaldson -- this is really where the backstabbing gets bad- Jenna Lewis turns her back on her "new" alliance that includes Lex, Cathy, Shi-ann and Rupert- To me Colby seemed like the life of the party on the outback- he really does not do a whole lot on this- He is not the leader, purposely, but his alliance building was not that strong- he has the whole "marked man" complex and is not surprised that someone has turned their back on him- he exits gracefully

Merge time

10. Lex Van den Berghe -- Lex is really cool on this show, but alot of this episode focus's on he and Tom's relationship- Lex is convinced that Tom, Kathy, Shi-Ann, and Rupert are sticking together- Tom specifically talks about the Ethan- Lex final 2 pact and that he has no loyalty- Tom is smart enough to see that he can win by sticking with his original group- Needless to say Lex is chapped on this

11. Kathy Vavrick O’Brien -- Shi jumps ship and votes Kathy- this episode is pretty boring- Kathy focuses on persuading the "older" crowd to stick together and form a new alliance- the editing shows it might work but we all know better than that

12. Shii-Ann Huang - Shi thinks she has convinced Alicia and Jenna to vote with her- no shock when Shi goes- I cant stand this girl- she spends the whole game playing to the cameras and bragging as if she is a great manipulator- she also gets bad edit which makes here America's new Jerri-

13. Alicia Calaway -- Alicia and Jenna are good friends- Amber and Rob vote Alicia out in a scheme that leaves Alicia in shock- RobM, Amber, Alicia, and Tom all agreed to vote Rupert

14. Jenna Lewis -- Here it gets tricky- lots of changing deals- the voting block focuses on Jenna, Tom, Rupert voting out Rob M-Someone changes their mind ( i would guess Tom) Read between the lines when i say that i have no access to the actual votes

15. Rupert Boneham - Tie here- GREAT episode- Amber and Rob vote Rupert, Tom and Rupert vote Rob M (while i cannot tell you for sure, it is obvious through confessionals) Rob M makes deal with Tom at tribal council to change vote and take to final 2- Tom takes deal- just like in PI Rupert actually was pretty cool during this, but just like in Pi his bad moments are not shown

16. Big Tom Buchanan - Amber knows exactly what Rob was doing and they discussed before hand what they would do in that event- Rupert was too well liked- Tom is very loved- Rob wins immunity and takes Amber- Tom is livid

17 & 18. Amber Brkich and Rob Mariano final 2 I do not know final vote- Rob is hated because of his cockiness and backstabbing- Rob also promised on his life he would not betray Tom- Amber is not just flying under the radar during allstars- she is not well like either- I really think it might be closer vote than people would think it would be- I think the players that would vote based on gameplay were booted before Jury- BUT here is the predicted upset- I think Rob's Jury performance is one of the best, if not the best ever- he specifically talks about how great the booted members are; Amber does not do as well- although Rob is hated i think he wins a close vote (just my opinion) He explains in jury every step of every decision

Cherié £u£u

Thanks Shawn!

If everyone could bring the spoilers they have or read in here because I know myself I don't visit TWOP or Survivor Sucks.

KryptonMan429

Cheryl, I'll try and post some spoilers. I just spent 3 hours reading a brand new board that 'fishes' out clues in vidcaps and editing.

As much as it is pointing to a Rob M and Amber final two, I just don't see it.

Also, as pointed out on Sucks (a new thread today) is that three animals represent the tribes: lizards-Chapera, Monkey-Mogo Mogo, Saboga-Bird (Specifically Eagle). Both the Monkey and Bird are prominently featured in the opening. It could mean a winner comes from either tribe, or it means Chapera is victorious. Anything is possible.

I'm sticking by my two hunches Rupert/Tom/Amber/Rob M final four or Amber/Rupert/Kathy/Colby final four.

Here is why I think Kathy/Colby/Rupert have a better chance at the final 3. Of course, editing this season could very well be the exact OPPOSITE of previous seasons.

Kathy also has a very prominent moon shot in Episode 2 before her tribe gets fire. Sandra had a moon shot sometime in Pearl Islands. I think Tom may go further than I am predicting... he is getting some good editing. Featured prominently, but too overwhelming, just like Kathy, Colby and to some extent Rupert. Jenna M. has had virtually NO screentime because she won't impact anything. Tina had little screentime until toward the end. It was a given she was gone. The entire tone of Episode 2 was about Rudy's departure. The feel was just there. Ethan was tossed it, but it was obvious he would stick around.

Anyway, here are Kathy, Colby and Rupert's opening pictures. All entirely different. Of course, they could very well be final 5. Anything is possible, and I'm not ruling Amber/Rob M. out just yet. Episode 4 will be very telling. I really do believe either Rob C. or MAYBE Alicia OR Rich go in Episode 4. Episode 6 is supposed to be a good episode, that could very well be Rich's downfall...

I should also point out that Mogo Mogo's color has a prominent place in the opening as various shots have the Monkey logo and green color all over the place. I think this time, MB is presenting us with the most obvious (Rob M/Amber) when it's really not them at all, ala Darrah of last season. Darrah was predicted as winner mid game, but alas it was Sandra who won... I see the same thing happening again. Unless of course, whoever gets the least amount of screentime this time goes first, unlike previous editions where least screentime goes farther. But this season confusing simply because we know these people and it gives the editors more room to really focus on the main attractions who add to the drama, but doesn't necessarily mean where they place in the game.





It is also interesting to note that this shot (well, the font) was used in Pearl Islands. A Rupert victory? Maybe I'm reading too much into it..


RUPERT:


VERY interesting shot here. Mogo Mogo green on top of Chapera. Could signal both tribes are (obviously) dominant, but could it mean a final two of Mogo Mogo/Chapera?


KATHY:


COLBY:


MONKEY:


EAGLE:


Interestingly enough, the Eagle, Saboga's 'mascot' appears last after Colby, and the Monkey appears before Colby.

A shot very similiar to this was used in Pearl Islands. The one survivoR. Could it signal another hint that Rupert wins?


Also, in the logo for the show, Green (Mogo Mogo's color) is prominent.


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* Diane *

I read somewhere that Rupert makes it to the final 4 [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

mollymac

This is great to have a spoiler/spec thread. Although I have nothing to contribute...thanks to all who are posting what you find/hear/know. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I hate the thought of Rob C going so early, but that's all I keep reading. Plus we all know about Jenna's mom, and Jenna exiting early. I believe she probably would have gone early anyway since she's a previous winner and came into the game with a huge target.

I also hope the rumors of Rob M and Amber being the final two are wrong! Pretty please!?

KryptonMan429

I think come episode 5 or even 4, we'll know if the leaked boot order is correct. I'm inclined to believe it, but I want to see what happens for the next few episodes.

I'm sticking by my theories of either a Rupert/Kathy/Colby final 3 or a Tom/Rob M/Amber final 3. I can't decide.

Granted, Colby and Kathy made it quite far in their original seasons, but I can see them quietly going under the radar for a while.

Çherié_£u£u

I can't imagine who Rob M could last that long in the game, seeing how he isn't a favorite but then again look at Jon from Pearl Islands, everyone hated him and he was one of the final 3. I defintely think Rupert is at an advantage since the others didn't get to see what he was like on his Survivor.

anna35

I'm pretty bummed if these spoilers are correct. I always read spoilers for Survivor and they are NEVER right that's why I always read them. (Did that make ANY sense?)

So sad for Jenna. I'm glad she left though. That was unbelievable that she just KNEW something was wrong.

I feel for her [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

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