[Mrs.Almeida]

Originally Posted by Serenachan (View Post) I don't. I don't think they did the right thing at all. They've just managed to make House doubt himself, that's not going to be useful for anyway, especially not patients. The last time House failed to diagnose a patient, he obsessed about it for 12 years (All In).

but I would say he did not fail to diagnose the patient ... that guy had been sick for 8 years and ... i think it is not the same as it was with that case in "All in".
It is a different situation, because House did not had to save his life,
and I do not think House doubts himself ...

[Serenachan]

I think he does. In the hallucination, he thought he was losing the only thing that (in his mind) he was good at: medicine.

but I would say he did not fail to diagnose the patient

Of course he didn't. But he doesn't know that

Press release for Lines in the sand:

"House takes the case of Adam, a 10-year-old severely autistic boy who screams loudly for no apparent reason, at least not a reason his three previous doctors could diagnose. The team wonders why House is taking the case - the boy's not sick; his symptoms seem to be a product of his autism. House claims he just wants a patient who can't lie, but it seems he relates to this kid: the social aloofness, the obsession with detail, the lack of social graces. In fact, House actually envies him; living in a shell has its advantages. But when Cuddy makes a minor change to House's office and House refuses to use the office until it's returned to its original state, he finds himself wandering the hospital in need of a temporary home, crashing in Cuddy and Wilson's offices. Meanwhile, teenager Ali from the previous episode still has a crush on House and is becoming a nuisance around the hospital. As Adam becomes more ill and the torturous diagnostic procedures yield nothing, House realizes he needs an answer, and his patient just might be the only one who can give him one. House finds he has to break through the very shell he admires in order to get anything out of the boy in the "Lines in the Sand" episode of HOUSE airing Tuesday, Sept. 26 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT). (HOU-304)"

[javajunkie4eva88]

Thanks. I was just about to bring that over.

And I'm gonna have to go with Serena on this one. I think that what Wilson and Cuddy did was completely wrong. Why is this case any different from any other case? House makes a completely bizzare diagnosis that fits the symtoms, and treats the patient for it, and he's alwas right. I mean, usually the treatment for the diagnosis is extremely dangerous and could kill the patient, but Cuddy never stops him then. This time, it could've either helped him or did nothing. If Cuddy hadn't given the guy the cortisol just because she was trying to teach House some humility, the guy wouldn't have been cured and House would still feel like he failed in a way.

Now, they've got House doubting himself in the next episode ("but a frustrated House gives up on his young patient"). So really, what good did this bring about? The doctor who can take any case and figure it out, who never gives up on his cases, and they get him to give up on a patient.

It just bugs me that House thinks Cameron's trying to change him, when everybody but her is trying(actually, I don't remember a specific time when Chase was trying to change him either).

Okay, I'm done ranting for the day.

Whoa, I just realized that we're almost done with this thread. Good job guys!

ETA: Okay, one last thing: Does anyone have the official episode description for 3.03? I thought I put it in the first post but I didn't. TIA

[angelle13]

I agree about House starting to doubt himself and you get to see that more evidently in the next episode where he sort of give up on a patient he's diagnosing.

The episode was called "Meaning" and House is trying to find meaning in his new life (and I don't mean the leg, but the shooting). In the past, everybody just figured that he was miserable and would do whatever it took to solve a mystery because he didn't care how he treated people or how his colleagues would react--that was always his MO. He couldn't and didn't want to relate to the patients. He didn't care if he made his patients' lives miserable just as long as he solved the case. Let's face it, the old House would have injected that cortisol shot into the patient without Cuddy's approval.

I think all this changed with the shooting. Even though it was in his subconscious, House took the words from the shooter to heart. This season will be all about how House sees his life and himself as a doctor. We'll see him re-evaluating his life and dealing with the aftermath of the shooting (which you know they have to address to a greater length in the future). He wants to show people that the shooting didn't affect him but the truth is he's changed by the incident and still hasn't come to terms with it.

[Serenachan]

Originally Posted by javajunkie4eva88 (View Post) It just bugs me that House thinks Cameron's trying to change him, when everybody but her is trying(actually, I don't remember a specific time when Chase was trying to change him either).

You're right, that bugs me a lot too.

Description for 3.03:

HOUSE AND THE TEAM ARE PULLED IN DIFFERING ETHICAL DIRECTIONS WHEN THEIR PATIENT ASKS THEM TO HELP HIM END HIS LIFE ON "HOUSE" TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, ON FOX Joel Grey Guest-Stars Show Airing in 8:00 PM Timeslot The ketamine has worn off and House is back to using his cane and doesn't want to talk about it. His new patient is Ezra Powell (guest star Joel Grey), a renowned pioneer in the field of medical research, who collapsed in his lab. House puts Ezra through diagnostic rigors, but the team is unable to come up with a conclusive diagnosis, and Ezra's health continues to deteriorate. Becoming increasingly debilitated, Ezra ultimately demands that the team stop the litany of medical tests and help him end his life. The team members have divergent opinions on the morality of helping Ezra die, especially since the possibility of a cure is still in question. The moral dilemma of whether to assist in his suicide and abide by Ezra's wishes, or to ignore what their patient wants drives the team in very different directions. Meanwhile, the teenage daughter of a clinic patient has developed a crush on Dr. House in the "Informed Consent" episode of HOUSE airing Tuesday, Sept. 19 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT). (HOU-303) (TV-14 L) Cast: Hugh Laurie as Dr. Gregory House; Lisa Edelstein as Dr. Lisa Cuddy; Omar Epps as Dr. Eric Foreman; Robert Sean Leonard as Dr. James Wilson; Jennifer Morrison as Dr. Allison Cameron; Jesse Spencer as Dr. Robert Chase. Guest Cast: Joel Grey as Ezra; Stephanie Venditto as Nurse Brenda; Leighton Meester as Ali; William Charlton as Mark; Bobbin Bergstrom as Nurse.

[javajunkie4eva88]

Gracias senorita! (I don't know how to do the n with the tilde thingy or I would )

[Mrs.Almeida]

About that Ali-girl ... I am not sure what to think about it
But for HC it could be a good thing so I will stop complaining

Originally Posted by javajunkie4eva88 (View Post) And I'm gonna have to go with Serena on this one. I think that what Wilson and Cuddy did was completely wrong. Why is this case any different from any other case? House makes a completely bizzare diagnosis that fits the symtoms, and treats the patient for it, and he's alwas right. I mean, usually the treatment for the diagnosis is extremely dangerous and could kill the patient, but Cuddy never stops him then. This time, it could've either helped him or did nothing. If Cuddy hadn't given the guy the cortisol just because she was trying to teach House some humility, the guy wouldn't have been cured and House would still feel like he failed in a way.

Okay, I think we can debate this thing forever ... I still understand Wilson's decision. I just think House needs to learn that he just can not do what he wants all the time. I mean of course he is a genius when it comes to medicine but he should not believe that he will be right every time. And I am not saying he was not so far.
But I understand what you mean I just think it was not totally wrong of Wilson and Cuddy.

And I have to say that I want House to know that those two lied to him

[Patty M]

About that Ali-girl ... I am not sure what to think about it But for HC it could be a good thing so I will stop complaining

I hope we get some great jealousy looks from Cameron Maybe a cat fight in the hall way?

[Mrs.Almeida]

Originally Posted by Patty M (View Post) I hope we get some great jealousy looks from Cameron Maybe a cat fight in the hall way?

Yeah ... I bet House would like that

[javajunkie4eva88]

Yeah, I think that the whole Ali SL will just be a funny one. And hopefully we get some good jealousy scenes. I would rather have the jealousy on House's part, but I'll take it.

I can just imagine, House picking up on some of Cameron's jealousy:
House- "What? Do you want me to call you Ali, too?"

[Mrs.Almeida]

Originally Posted by javajunkie4eva88 (View Post) Yeah, I think that the whole Ali SL will just be a funny one. And hopefully we get some good jealousy scenes. I would rather have the jealousy on House's part, but I'll take it. I can just imagine, House picking up on some of Cameron's jealousy: House- "What? Do you want me to call you Ali, too?"

OMG ... I can totally picture him saying that. It would be so house-like

And ITA ... I would love to see the jealousy on House's side ... like on "TB or not TB"
But I am sure they will make great scenes out of it anyway

Can not wait for tomorrow Why can't the week be only tuesdays?

[javajunkie4eva88]

From TWOP- Episode 3.08 is called Whack-A-Mole.

What's with the funny titles this season?

[csikicksurass22]

The word mole most likely means someone on the inside (I hope it's not Chase...again) and who knows maybe House will 'Whack" someone...again!

[Labyrith]

I acually think this ali stuff will be really interesting to watch. Im excited hopefully some intense Cameron/House scenes!

[Patty M]

There's a new clip from Cain and Able up on the Fox site...it's hilarious with Chase attempting and-failing miserably-a "you're mama" joke to Foreman. And there are another three clips on the Media thread of the TWOP forums...I don't know if I'm allowed to post the link here or not, but check it out, they're pretty cool. A lot of House/Wilson and some good House/Cameron banter

Yeah, I think that the whole Ali SL will just be a funny one. And hopefully we get some good jealousy scenes. I would rather have the jealousy on House's part, but I'll take it. I can just imagine, House picking up on some of Cameron's jealousy: House- "What? Do you want me to call you Ali, too?"

Ok, I really hope he says something like that...it would be HILARIOUS!! he never has called her by her first name...it would be interesting to see how she reacts to him actually acknowledging the fact that her first name isn't Cameron.