I like these fictional characters better than some of you. Since, at their core, they understand that each of them is trying to do the best that THEY CAN. Sure, they do not always succeed, but they are TRYING. All of them, together, are trying. They at least have been shown to get that, but most folks on this thread ignore it everyday. Which I not only find insightful about the posters, but also a tad depressing. Since, there has to be a line where reality and this sort of sentiment merges. That really puts me out. Empathy, it's FANTASTIC.

Let me get this straight. You first put up that silly FAKE LORELAI stuff that Babs KNOCKED THE **** out. This was followed by stating that you wish, that men would get over the GILMORE GIRLS. Huh? On this show, in that world, Rory and Lorelai are about as AWESOME as FEMINITY GETS. They are IT. To ignore this, is to ignore what Logan said to Rory in WBB. WBB establishes why this is the way it is. Also you show very little understanding of the male psyche with this comment. Which is nothing new because no one ever takes the time to figure out a MAN.

Finally, if you hate any characters on this show. I really wish that you would stop giving a **** about this show. Amy and Dan and SHO-RUNNA love these characters too damn much for folks on the internet to slag them over some silly ****. Which it is silly, because it has nothing to do with the characters. It has to do with what FOLKS SEE OF THEMSELVES in these characters, but not the story being told. Again, this show, is all about this underlying positive message. Yet, all I read in here, is nothing but a negative as if this show were not fit to wipe your asses on. The disconnect is staggering.

well i can't say i really appreciate the 'bitching' comment. i was actually asking the question seriously. i mean, its a thread, and there's many different fans on here and the conversation is going to go where it goes. but hey, maybe i'm just 'bitching.'

Actually, my 'bitching' comment had to do with the thread issues, not about your post. Which is why it was on a separate line, so you wouldn't think I was talking about you. I do believe that my last couple of posts have clearly been trying to STOP the bitching, so when people then went out of their way to keep it up, I was pretty much saying whatever, it will never change.

ETA: I also answered your question seriously.

why is this place so freaking intense?

hey spec...who will win the luke/chris smackdown? my money is on Luke...

Does it even really matter who will win? When are guys going to get that girls don't get all swoony when they beat up another guy?

Speak for yourself .

Does it even really matter who will win? When are guys going to get that girls don't get all swoony when they beat up another guy? It's not like Lorelai will say "Oh, Luke you Chris up. You're a big strong man. I love youi forever." Whatever it is that makes her go back to Luke it's not going to be him beating Chris up.

To answer the question. As Luke is a much larger man then Chris and he is more outdoorsy and whatnot I would imagine he would win if it got that far. It's more likely that someone would break it up though.