Spoilers - Gilmore Girls Spoilers and Speculation #98 - Page 14

Cappuccino · 11-18-2006, 04:17 AM

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MA: Yeah, he’s only doing a couple of episodes in the second half of the season, so I think that’s a really good indication that the marriage is doomed.

First half ends with ep 11. Second half starts with ep12. Couple of episodes - couple meaning 2 - ep 12 and 13 make a couple

Say bye-bye Chris

lancer1993 · 11-18-2006, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Riska (View Post)

Thanks lorelaisgirl.

Imo MA has no idea when or if L/C break up. "No comment" his secret code for "I've no idea". Really.

And I don't think that Emily will warn Lorelai about Chris or marriage with him, but about marriage per se. Something like "Although you might want it: A marriage isn't a party."

So is Chris going to become like Mr Kim, you know he's there but never see him?

DS only has a few eps in the back 9.

Riska · 11-18-2006, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lancer1993 (View Post)

So is Chris going to become like Mr Kim, you know he's there but never see him?

DS only has a few eps in the back 9.

I never said that. Only that MA has no idea, although he pretends to know and that Emily imo probably won't warn Lorelai about Chris, but about marriage not being something that easy. Oh - and we hadn't any news on DS actually signing a new contract, had we?

lancer1993 · 11-18-2006, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Riska (View Post)

I never said that. Only that MA has no idea, although he pretends to know and that Emily imo probably won't warn Lorelai about Chris, but about marriage not being something that easy. Oh - and we hadn't any news on DS actually signing a new contract, had we?

Okay,

Yes no news about the contract just that it was offered for a few eps (no number given if I remember right) IMO he has signed because of what the podcast said.

I agree that it will be Emily saying "marriage is hard, you can't just run" but it would be nice if she said "something you have to follow your heart" but I doubt it.

Frattaglia · 11-18-2006, 05:03 AM

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Finally, Frattaglia, you made a good point back there, but this is a thread about making points. It's not a thread that features a Lit from the Lit board, coming over here, in an attempt to INSTIGATE a fight. Again, you can bring the discussion, but do not toil with a group of fans harden by their dealings with another group of fans. You do not want to get caught up in that crossfire. Nevertheless, you are going to give Logan a shot this time. For that, I give you a thimble full of DAP!

Thanks for the dap Jason,but are you saying that I can't post my thoughts here just because I'm a lit?That's not nice,man.

It's not my fault if the sophies don't like my speculations.
And my specs aren't mean to instigate fights more than the sophie's continuos dragging Jess (or Luke,for that matter) in conversations he doesn't have anything to do with.

I rarely post here,and when I do people get mad at me because I don't worship a character they like.A girl has to defend herself

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Of course, the bridesmaids were a finished situation--he had slept with them, but had stopped several months ago.

Marty is STILL lying to Lucy.

If Marty had stopped lying then there would be no need to bring up something that's over and can't be changed. But that's not the case.

And that assumes Logan doesn't inadvertainly tell Lucy.

Are you saying that past lies don't need to be revealed because,well,they're in the past?
Sandlynn's statement that Logan didn't share his sexual conquests because he was being discreet makes more sense....

Either way,IMO it was a lie by omission.

Cappuccino · 11-18-2006, 05:04 AM

Emily just wants to keep her face among those DAR chicks. She doesn't want to lose her first cup of tea. Suck it up and get over it. Pull yourself together and don't embarrass the family again. Remember when Lorelai didn't want to go out with that guy again from 8 o'clock at the oasis and how pissed Emily was because it was bad for her and her first cup of tea. Her status and reputation among her high society friends are more important to her than anything.

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LORELAI: Well, because we didn’t really hit it off that well.
EMILY: What?
LORELAI: No one’s fault, he’s just not really my type.
EMILY: What do you mean he’s not your type?
LORELAI: Well, we just don’t have any of the same interests, and we didn’t find a whole lot to talk about. You know, basically the date was kind of a dud.
EMILY: Oh, well, that’s too bad.
LORELAI: Yeah.
EMILY: Well, you’ll just have to try a little harder on the next date.
LORELAI: Excuse me?
EMILY: Aren’t you going to a concert together next week?
LORELAI: Ah, that Peyton’s a real Mama’s boy, isn’t he?
EMILY: Just because he shares his life with his mother doesn’t make him a Mama’s boy, Lorelai.
LORELAI: I’m not gonna go to the concert with him, Mom.
EMILY: But I thought you had a plan.
LORELAI: We did, but that was before we spent any time together and realized we can’t spend any time together.
EMILY: You’re not gonna cancel on him.
LORELAI: Mom, believe me, he won’t be surprised. He didn’t have that great a time either.
EMILY: Lorelai, you have to go to the concert. You made a commitment to someone, you have to honor it.
LORELAI: Mom, this is my business, okay?

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RICHARD: Lorelai, you obviously do not understand the way things work in your mother’s world. There is a certain protocol that must be followed, social rules that dictate proper behavior, and these rules must be very strictly adhered to.

RICHARD: Before this unfortunate incident, Sally Wallington always received the first cup of tea. When she was suddenly demoted, your mother moved up to the prime tea spot, and she’s held that spot ever since. Now, she’s very proud of that spot, and now she’s afraid that this little incident may jeopardize it.

stein · 11-18-2006, 06:22 AM

Okayyy a bit off topic I guess, but this is my favourite thread and I only posted the following in the main gilmore girls forum, so here goes:

Hey!

I have put up a wiki a-la wikipedia/lostpedia/battlestar wiki or what have you at

Main Page - Gilmorepedia

There is nothing in there yet, except some basic structure. The idea is to store, archive and honor everything related to the show. So go and add stuff

Stein

AkaranafeatMeeko · 11-18-2006, 07:40 AM

So, interesting to see that MA also thinks LC are not going to last, after some speculated that "few" episodes would be good enough to keep them married.

pimbolina · 11-18-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cappuccino (View Post)

Emily just wants to keep her face among those DAR chicks. She doesn't want to lose her first cup of tea. Suck it up and get over it. Pull yourself together and don't embarrass the family again. Remember when Lorelai didn't want to go out with that guy again from 8 o'clock at the oasis and how pissed Emily was because it was bad for her and her first cup of tea. Her status and reputation among her high society friends are more important to her than anything.

Come on, it's obvious that her family is the most important thing for Emily.
Otherwise she wouldn't have left Richard, because she was afraid that they might lose Lorelai again, even though it was only the last straw for her.

And the situation with "auction boy" was a completely different situation as with Chris now. The only thing Emily wanted was for Lorelai to go to the date, if they would have never seen each other again wouldn’t have mattered afterwards.

Emily wants Lorelai to be happy, for a long time she thought that Chris would make Lorelai happy, she wanted to have the family together, but she accepted Luke too.
Now I'm curious if Emily is instantly happy that Lorelai and Chris are "finally" married or if she's mad at first. I hope she's really mad and gives Lorelai a piece of her mind, though the opera themed party indicates that Emily will be happy for them, though I'm wondering if it's genuinely or if she just happy because she assumes that Lorelai is happy.

I can only hope that when Luke will be there for them during the crisis, Emily and Lorelai will see the differences between Luke and Chris.

AkaranafeatMeeko · 11-18-2006, 07:56 AM

I think Emily will be very happ that Lorelai and Chris are finally married. For one, because it's the "right" thing to doand also because she thinks that's wht would make Lorelai happy.

But I am curious if she will forget about the society rules and her pride when she sees that Lorelai is unhappy in this marriage. I am really curious wht her "warning" is going to be. "Stay put nd work it out" or "Divorce him when you don't love him". I hope for the second one, but I doubt it'll happen

Shanti70 · 11-18-2006, 08:13 AM

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ETA: Sweet nipples of ZEUS, Shanti, Shane and the Bridesmaids are totally different. If you do not see them as different. Lady, you got about as much objectivity as Emperor.

How so, Jason? Logan used those girls just as much as Jess used Shane. According to Jess, Shane was well aware that their relationship was primarily physical in nature. She was willing. My point is that both Jess and Logan used girls to ease the pain of their separation from Rory. Please enlighten me.

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But he also made her dig in her heals and prolonged her relationship with Dean by flaunting his liason with Shayne in her face.

Jess didn't make Rory do anything. Rory is responsible for her own behavior. Both Rory and Jess were hurt by the bahavior of the other, and stubborn about doing anything to change the situation. You could argue that Rory should have come home, broken up with Dean and then seen what Jess would have done with Shane. Why should it be all Jess' fault when it was Rory who lacked the courage to break up with Dean when she knew that she wanted to be with Jess.

Sandlynn · 11-18-2006, 09:00 AM

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How so, Jason? Logan used those girls just as much as Jess used Shane. According to Jess, Shane was well aware that their relationship was primarily physical in nature. She was willing. My point is that both Jess and Logan used girls to ease the pain of their separation from Rory. Please enlighten me.

The Jess/Shane thing and the Logan/Bridesmaids thing are not the same:

Logan never purposely flaunted a girl in front of Rory; Jess did.

You claim Shane didn't care about Jess but we don't know that, because we never got her perspective. Only his interpretation of it. All we do know is that Jess spent a lot of time "hanging around" with Shane and had to *end things with her* as soon as he discovered that Rory and Dean had broken up. We did, however, get the bridesmaids perspectives. They were just serially sleeping around. Logan didn't have to break anything up with them because there was nothing to break up!

Furthermore, Jess seemed to be using Shane to punish Rory. He knew Rory was bothered by it, but kept tossing it in her face as a payback for Dean. Logan wasn't punishing Rory with the bridesmaids; he was punishing himself, trying to deaden his feelings with "wine, women, and song." He wasn't out to hurt her and, in fact, did not tell her about it so as not to hurt her.

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Jess didn't make Rory do anything. Rory is responsible for her own behavior. Both Rory and Jess were hurt by the bahavior of the other, and stubborn about doing anything to change the situation. You could argue that Rory should have come home, broken up with Dean and then seen what Jess would have done with Shane. Why should it be all Jess' fault when it was Rory who lacked the courage to break up with Dean when she knew that she wanted to be with Jess.

Are you kidding. I would've come home and broken up with Dean, alright. But *not* to see what Jess would do and to start something with him. Instead, I would've dated around and not become steady with anyone. Why? Because it later becomes clear that Rory doesn't know what she wants. Or, to be more precise, she doesn't recognize that these two guys are each one-half of what she wants. But, that's okay, she was a teenager; she's allowed to make mistakes. Later, Rory regrets what happened with Dean and even compares him favorably to Jess. He has qualities she wants in a boyfriend, while Jess has other qualities that she wants. What it boils down to is she wanted a guy who had the qualities of each of them. She wanted a Logan! A guy who could both, be dependable and be there for her, and yet be edgy and exciting.

peachypeep · 11-18-2006, 09:11 AM

Fan Forum......

peachypeep · 11-18-2006, 09:12 AM

...misbehaving again. what a surprise! NOT.

Sandlynn · 11-18-2006, 09:17 AM

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Obviously the circumstances between Rory/Jess and Rory/Logan were different, but I do aee a similarity in that both guys used girls in a fairly crude way.

Two consenting adults having sex with the understanding that that is all it is, as opposed to two underaged kids having sex, with heaven knows what type of understanding between them?