Spoilers - Gilmore Girls Spoilers and Speculation #98 - Page 13

lancer1993 · 11-18-2006, 02:37 AM

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Because he's so convinces of himself and thinks he was right all those years that she always comes back to him and choses him over all the others. Everyone is the for now guy but him

Then he's not paying any attention to what's happening outside his litlle I'm the greatest ego bubble. Next week is another good example for that. Both girls are sad or angry and he wants to celebrate. He's totally oblivious to what's going on between "his" girls - but he knows Lorelai so well

He's absolultely NO idea who she is, who she became because he is still stuck in 1983 where he was her hero with the piece of pizza.

I just love how it's not just us who thought Chris somewhat bullied Lorelai into the marriage and she never said yes on screen, it must have been some lilies in that town to get her to say “I do”!

FuzzyCerts · 11-18-2006, 02:39 AM

From what we´ve seen and from the spoilers, I think that Chriss wants to control this marriage.....yeah, Lorelai will soon wake up....

lancer1993 · 11-18-2006, 02:45 AM

The only worry I have is even WHEN Chris goes there are no spoilers yet saying L&L get back together or when. I have high hopes they do (99%) but it's that last 1% that worries me. She might give up on men, get those cats and a little friend she can keep in her dresser draw.

gjoni · 11-18-2006, 02:49 AM

I have 100% hope about LL, but a low percentage of belief that they actually get back together as intimate friends, partners and lovers.

FuzzyCerts · 11-18-2006, 02:51 AM

I have hope too, but I just fear that´ll be pressed in 9 eps.....

Cappuccino · 11-18-2006, 02:55 AM

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I just love how it's not just us who thought Chris somewhat bullied Lorelai into the marriage and she never said yes on screen, it must have been some lilies in that town to get her to say “I do”!

Especially in November in Europe probably outside

I mean we had a really nice and warm fall but that was still kind of - yup right lilies in November

And it started raining

Wow now that's so romantic. A wedding in the rain

And what an anvil

Since when does Lorelai like rain ? She's all for snow bozo

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The only worry I have is even WHEN Chris goes there are no spoilers yet saying L&L get back together or when. I have high hopes they do (99%) but it's that last 1% that worries me. She might give up on men, get those cats and a little friend she can keep in her dresser draw.

Nope she doesn't give up on Luke. She will fight for him. Once dopey is out of the way or even before that she will realize it's Luke - it was always Luke and always will be Luke.

lancer1993 · 11-18-2006, 03:05 AM

Well when I say together I have no doubt they will be friends again but it must be more, that starts IMO next ep when I hope Lorelai helps Luke, atleast Luke asks for help, which is a start.

So Lorelai won't need her battery powered little friend once she wins Luke back

FuzzyCerts · 11-18-2006, 03:10 AM

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So Lorelai won't need her battery powered little friend once she wins Luke back

Hehe.....

Cappuccino · 11-18-2006, 03:16 AM

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So Lorelai won't need her battery powered little friend once she wins Luke back

And she should clear her schedule for more than 2 minutes

gjoni · 11-18-2006, 03:30 AM

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I like the fact that, as we all suspected, Luke becomes a helper during Richard's time of Crisis and Chris does not. I wonder if During all this someone < like one of Emily's DAR friends mistakes Luke as Emily's Son-In-Law.. and instead of correcting the person she makes a freudian slip like he should be or he could have been.
I love the fact the Luke can once agin be there for Emily and Lorelai.

I really like this scenario. Some DAR gals looking up to responsible family man Luke, mentioning it to Emily and making her realize what she'd overlooked for so long because of her prejudice.

The problem I have with the story for Lorelai now, is what epiphany or journey exactly is she going to have, what are they supposedly showing us? She already told Lynnie that Luke was the only guy she thought she'd ever loved, that he was a real man, solid and strong and would protect her, and got her, and she also realized how much he cared for Rory. She saw him as a caring family man - respecting his uncle's burial wishes, speaking fondly of his Dad and having a dark day each year on the anniversay of his death, taking Jess in, helping and caring about Liz, loving father to April. She already knows all that, and knew it was what she loved about him and what she wanted. She knows and knew - so what's new?

And about the other world, her parents' world we thought she might be checking out with Christopher - I don't see that either. On the contrary, she brought Chris back to her world, to quirky but homey Stars Hollow. So, it doesn't seem like she's contemplating that choice any longer.

I do want to see how they plan to show us how reality strikes Lorelai, but right now, I still feel that not only is the timing absolutely wrong with this Chris SL, but that no realizations should be life changing new to her, either.

Cappuccino · 11-18-2006, 03:37 AM

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I really like this scenario. Some DAR gals looking up to responsible family man Luke, mentioning it to Emily and making her realize what she'd overlooked for so long because of her prejudice.

Luke was there at Rory's birthday party and his "What's the DAR" was quite a hit among those women

Maybe they even remember him

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She already told Lynnie that Luke was the only guy she thought she'd ever loved, that he was a real man, solid and strong and would protect her, and got her, and she also realized how much he cared for Rory. She saw him as a caring family man - respecting his uncle's burial wishes, speaking fondly of his Dad and having a dark day each year on the anniversay of his death, taking Jess in, helping and caring about Liz, loving father to April. She already knows all that, and knew it was what she loved about him and what she wanted. She knows and knew - so what's new?

Attributes Chris never had and never will gain. She will get him out of her system for good.

lorelaisgirl · 11-18-2006, 03:53 AM

TV GUIDE PODCAST NOVEMBER 17, 2006

DM = Daniel Manu
MA = Michael Ausiello
AC = Angel Cohn
MMcD = Maitland McDonagh

Start 14.21

DM: Uhm, big episode of Gilmore Girls, this is the one that people have been buzzing about all season, the—the—elopement episode, and of course we got a lot of uh negative mails about it and a lot of positive mails about it.
AC: Really?
DM: Yeah. So what did you think Angel?
AC: Are you gonna let me go before the mails?
DM: Yes, because you’re more important than mails.
AC: Thanks for that. I actually really really didn’t like it at all. And I have been a supporter of Christopher for this season, I think he’s fun and cute and I like them together, but the elopement felt really really forced. It felt like he bullied her into getting married, and like the only reason she’s doing it, is ‘cause she doesn’t want to, like, lose another guy.
DM: Mike, any thoughts on that? I didn’t even see the full episode, but obviously you have some thoughts on this.
MA: Well, I tend to agree with Angel. I wasn’t really crazy about it, but---
AC: Can we mark what time this happened?
MA: What?
AC: You agree with me, can we mark the time this happened?
MA: I think it’s good I’m three thousand miles away. When I’m actually sitting in a room with you and looking at you, I’m like ‘how can I agree with you?’
DM: Ohh, come on. Not cool. Go ahead, Mike.
MMcD: Come on kids, stop it.
DM: Go ahead, Mike.
MA: Uhm, so anyway, you know what, I think part of it too was knowing it was coming, it was kind of like anti-climactic, do you think that--- that that hampered your experience, Angel? Knowing two months ago that this was happening?
AC: I don’t even know if it was that. I just thought, like, that they didn’t even show the elopement. It just, like, it didn’t seem like ‘Oh my God, we’re in Paris, we got caught up in the moment’, like, it just seemed like she was like ‘uhhhhh, I’m undecided’ and then two seconds later she was married to him.
DM: Yeah, it did feel--- I thought it was actually interesting that all took place off camera, I liked that, in a way. But of course we got a letter from a listener named Danielle from Dresden, Germany who points out the implausibility of this quick marriage in France. She points out that there’s a bunch of different ways you can get hitched in France. One is a religious ceremony, that can only happen after you’ve been legally married through a civil ceremony; there’s also an exchange of vows, but that is not considered legal. And for a civil ceremony, you gotta have birth certificates, affidavits, certificate of laws, a decree, a change of name deed, and you gotta stay in Paris for at least forty days, or at least in France for forty days.
MA: This person should not watch Prison Break.
DM: So her question, actually though, Mike, because you sort of hinted at this with your interview with Dave Rosenthal this week, is this marriage legal? Because I got a feeling this marriage ain’t gonna be still lasting at the end of this season, right?
MA: Yeah, I mean, that’s one way to get out of it, you know, in February whatever they can find out ‘hey look it wasn’t legal to begin with, we’ll just go our own ways and whatever.’ Uhm, but the --- I would be shocked if they’re still married by the end of February.
DM: And uh, plus because David Sutcliff isn’t even signed for the full season.
MA: Yeah, he’s only doing a couple of episodes in the second half of the season, so I think that’s a really good indication that the marriage is doomed.
DM: But there were actually a couple of good other story lines this week, one of them was Rory and her two little uhh, dipstick friends.
AC: You just smite those girls.
DM: I don’t like those girls at all, but it was really funny dialogue. It was just classic Gilmore quick back and forth dialogue, I liked how she kept saying ‘the boyfriend’, she didn’t want to say just ‘Marty’.
AC: ‘The boyfriend’. That was very Gilmore Girls, I thought.
DM: It just was very funny to me, like one of the funniest pieces in the season so far.
AC: And that scene between, like, Rory and Marty was very, like, awkward and entertaining, I thought.
DM: Yeah, and I like Marty, although you what I noticed, didn’t he used to wear glasses? Am I crazy or did he have glasses at some point?
AC: I don’t know if he wore glasses.
DM: Mike, did Marty have glasses when he was on the show earlier?
MA: No.
DM: Okay.
MA: I don’t think so.
AC: He just had bigger hair.
DM: Okay, ‘cuz now I got a feeling like now he’s gonna be a love-interest, they’re making him look more attractive.
MA: But he’s not gonna be a love-interest and he --- you know the interview I did with David Rosenthal, he said that---
AC: Isn’t that the whole thing?
MA: ---it’s still gonna be a one-sided affair, and like, Marty is gonna be into Rory, but it’s not gonna be reciprocated [[???]] and my reaction to that is like ‘well, didn’t we already play that story?’
AC: Right. That’s why he ran away the first time.
DM: Well, you know, it’s not gonna be all hugs and kisses and everything with Logan and Rory, can’t be. There has to be a complication that comes up.
MA: Did he move back this episode?
AC: No.
DM: Not yet, no.
MA: Okay.
DM: And I also liked the couple moments with Lane, what’s his face ---
AC: That was my favorite part of the episode.
DM: ---and with the mother, and when he said ‘cool’. That was hilarious, that was hilarious.
AC: “I’ll be--- you’ll be moving in here” “Cool”.
DM: Cool! I mean, like I thought that stuff was really well handled.
AC: Yeah, no, I thought the Lane-stuff with the twins, and him thinking that they were Siamese twins, was really funny and very, like, typical Gilmore; and I, like, felt that stuff like that was entertaining.
DM: I didn’t sookie a single scene this week.
AC: How is that possible? Well there was no Sookie to sookie, there was no Kirk to sookie.
DM: Right. No Michel.
MA: To me it sounds like you liked the episode?
DM: I liked it overall, I didn’t really care that much about the Christopher-Lorelai stuff, I liked everything else in the episode.
MA: Yeah.
DM: To me, the other stuff was more entertaining than the Christopher-Lorelai stuff.
MA: Hmhm.
DM: Mainly because I knew what was coming, I guess.

End 19.13

Errare humanum est.

lancer1993 · 11-18-2006, 04:03 AM

lorelaisgirl - Thanks for the TV Guide TS, interesting...

edited 'cause i'm an idiot LOL

Riska · 11-18-2006, 04:07 AM

Thanks lorelaisgirl.

Imo MA has no idea when or if L/C break up. "No comment" his secret code for "I've no idea". Really.

And I don't think that Emily will warn Lorelai about Chris or marriage with him, but about marriage per se. Something like "Although you might want it: A marriage isn't a party."

gjoni · 11-18-2006, 04:11 AM

Thanks for the podcast transcript, lorelaisgirl.

So MA says DS "he’s only doing a couple of episodes in the second half of the season"

That could include up to 7.13.

I still think we'll get confirmation that he signed on for more episodes to come after 7.13, and who knows how and for what they'll use him then.