Spoilers - Gilmore Girls Spoilers and Speculation #98 - Page 11

mrs.lafferty93 · 11-17-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nst (View Post)

i have this horrible feeling that they will renew their vows in front of emily and that is the whole reason why she is throwing this shindig

HORRIBLE

I dont think so, I think thats why she gets the talking to by emily cause she doesnt want it to be made into a spectacle

Captain Hawkeye · 11-17-2006, 06:05 PM

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Funny enough,this discussion reminds me of the bridesmaids debacle.I remember people here thought they should've bite their tongue in front of Rory..and now turns out they did the "adult" thing

Of course, the bridesmaids were a finished situation--he had slept with them, but had stopped several months ago.

Marty is STILL lying to Lucy.

If Marty had stopped lying then there would be no need to bring up something that's over and can't be changed. But that's not the case.

And that assumes Logan doesn't inadvertainly tell Lucy.

lancer1993 · 11-17-2006, 06:11 PM

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And I meant the final episode of French Twist since they had to do reshoots for it a couple of weeks ago.

Okay, that makes sense but he must have it Tivo'ed, guess he'll wathc it later. I hope all the deleted and changed scenes they are having this season, seams like more that before, are on the DVD when it comes out.

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Originally Posted by nst

i have this horrible feeling that they will renew their vows in front of emily and that is the whole reason why she is throwing this shindig

HORRIBLE

Maybe that's a question for MA, I bet we don't see it, why when they break up weeks later. But it can't be any worse that the final scene in Partings.

GEORGEIII · 11-17-2006, 06:15 PM

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I hope all the deleted and changed scenes they are having this season, seams like more that before, are on the DVD when it comes out.

I certainly would hope so.

lancer1993 · 11-17-2006, 06:20 PM

Thanks to Fraz at FanBolt and The CW

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TUESDAY, DECEMBER 5
“GILMORE GIRLS” — (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET)
“Merry Fisticuffs” (TV-PG, DLV) (HDTV)
LUKE AND CHRISTOPHER COME TO BLOWS — Luke (Scott Patterson) and Lorelai (Lauren Graham) share a sweet moment when Luke introduces her to Liz’s new baby. Christopher (David Sutcliffe) witnesses the scene and it adds to his concern that Lorelai isn’t fully committed to their marriage. The next day, Lorelai and Christopher get into a fight over whether they should exchange vows at the elaborate wedding party Emily (Kelly Bishop) is throwing for them. Luke contacts a lawyer over his custody troubles with Ana, then runs into Christopher and the two have an ugly confrontation in the streets of Stars Hollow. Meanwhile, when Logan (Matt Czuchry) discovers that Rory and Marty (Wayne Wilcox) have been pretending that they just met, rather than admitting their previous friendship to Lucy (Krysten Ritter), he reveals the truth to Lucy. Finally, Emily gives Lorelai a warning about her marriage. Sean Gunn also stars. Jackson Douglas directed the episode written by David Rosenthal

So DSR wrote this one.

and Kirk's in the ep

funnyfriend · 11-17-2006, 06:23 PM

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I wouldn't find it OCC.

And it's not about scheming,it's about jealousy.

Sorry,I guess I just don't get why he suddendly feels the need to be honest to Lucy (a girl he doesn't even know),and not to Rory and Marty.

The spoiler is clear when it says that Logan "discovers" (not that Rory tells Logan) that his girlfriend is liying to her new best friend about not knowing "BOYFRIEND"; and at the same time she never told him about the lie, he finds it by himself.

So Logan can act in some sort of solidarity since both of them (Lucy and Logan) heven't known the truth from their couples.I don't think why he has to cover Rory after she never told him her arrangement with Marty and the reasons for that.

If this is the situation I really think that Rory and Marty are the ones that aren't honest.

mrs.lafferty93 · 11-17-2006, 06:25 PM

Christopher (David Sutcliffe) witnesses the scene and it adds to his concern that Lorelai isn’t fully committed to their marriage.well, theres a shocker

Sandlynn · 11-17-2006, 06:32 PM

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The spoiler is clear when it says that Logan "discovers" (not that Rory tells Logan) that his girlfriend is liying to her new best friend about not knowing "BOYFRIEND"; and at the same time she never told him about the lie, he finds it by himself.

So Logan can act in some sort of solidarity since both of them (Lucy and Logan) heven't known the truth from their couples.I don't think why he has to cover Rory after she never told him her arrangement with Marty and the reasons for that.

If this is the situation I really think that Rory and Marty are the ones that aren't honest.

Ah, so you see Logan as possibly being in solidarity with Lucy.

wej5541 · 11-17-2006, 06:33 PM

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Mhm, okay they read my question on the podcast if this marriage is legal or not and all I got was an advice from Ausiello to not watch Prison Break which is pretty funny cause I'm watching the show.

Good question by the way, I think they were impressed. I'm watching Prison Break too I wonder what illogical thing is going to happen on that show.

**perrygraham** · 11-17-2006, 06:42 PM

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Good question by the way, I think they were impressed. I'm watching Prison Break too I wonder what illogical thing is going to happen on that show.

Me too.

Maybe I should ask Ausiello.

At least I could hear how they pronounced my city which was funny.

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Christopher (David Sutcliffe) witnesses the scene and it adds to his concern that Lorelai isn’t fully committed to their marriage.

I don't get why this short moment affects that Chris doubts Lorelais feelings regarding the marriage. I mean she said that she was worried about marrying too soon in Paris but he convinced her. He knows her feelings. What does he expect? That Lorelai's playing happy wive for him?

lancer1993 · 11-17-2006, 06:42 PM

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Good question by the way, I think they were impressed. I'm watching Prison Break too I wonder what illogical thing is going to happen on that show.

Well some shows you just have to put your brain in the nutral and not think about things.

I just listened to the podcast and while MA said it's unlikly C&L will be married they didn't say they would not be together, even though it is unlikly they will stay together when they relationship goes to crap!

**Katiegg108** · 11-17-2006, 07:52 PM

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I don't get why this short moment affects that Chris doubts Lorelais feelings regarding the marriage. I mean she said that she was worried about marrying too soon in Paris but he convinced her. He knows her feelings. What does he expect? That Lorelai's playing happy wive for him?

It would totally affect his doubts. He saw how much she wanted to marry Luke in 6.19. He knows how important Luke was... even if he always thought he was the "for now" guy.. he was rejected for Luke before. And especially if the sweet looks lorelai's giving Luke during that scene are nothing like the way she's looking at Chris by ep. 10.

We have to remember that there's a few eps before then for Chris to start doubting her too. they said that this adds to his fears, it doesn't create them, that means that they already started forming in ep. 9 or 8.

Shanti70 · 11-17-2006, 08:05 PM

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I had liked Jess in S2 and with him showing up on screen with Shayne he begins to go south for me very quickly for me. It was one big game to try to make Rory jealous. And I didn't like it, it said something bad to me about him as a person. He wasn't just mischevious and clever, he schemed and played with others emotions to achieve his ends.

Jess got together with Shane when Rory didn't contact him for the whole summer after kissing him. He was never the kind to sit around and wait (much like Logan when he and Rory "broke up.") Much like Logan and the bridesmaids, Jess and Shane had their "symbiotic" relationship. I never felt sorry for Shane.

MickeyJr3000 · 11-17-2006, 08:45 PM

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I don't get why this short moment affects that Chris doubts Lorelais feelings regarding the marriage. I mean she said that she was worried about marrying too soon in Paris but he convinced her. He knows her feelings. What does he expect? That Lorelai's playing happy wife for him?

I think it's an issue of selective listening. I think we've seen, perhaps throughout the show, that Christopher isn't very keen on listening into a person's non-verbal communication. Nor is he skilled in really listening to what somebody says and understanding the underlying feelings that that person is expressing. I hope this makes sense. We know how clueless he is to what Lorelai is saying...one being her warning: "It's too soon," the other being her concern for Rory, the third being, well, ages ago, when she said "it shouldn't happen again." His 'little man' is resonating louder in his head so he tends to listen to that.
And we know how clueless he is during the dinner with Rory and Lorelai. He's completely fogged up with this 'image' of Lorelai that he so adores that he blinds himself from seeing her as a PERSON with FEELINGS. He's too much into his own desires...sleep with Lorelai, marry Lorelai, live with Lorelai married, etc...that he strives for those goals without paying attention to the other person when she expresses a concern. You can't get through his thick skull.

He can, however, recognize when his...urm...'wife' is 'flirting' with another guy and that tends to set him off.

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It would totally affect his doubts. He saw how much she wanted to marry Luke in 6.19. He knows how important Luke was... even if he always thought he was the "for now" guy.. he was rejected for Luke before. And especially if the sweet looks lorelai's giving Luke during that scene are nothing like the way she's looking at Chris by ep. 10.

We have to remember that there's a few eps before then for Chris to start doubting her too. they said that this adds to his fears, it doesn't create them, that means that they already started forming in ep. 9 or 8.

Chris gets really pissy when some other 'man' is in the way of him attaining his goal of snagging Lorelai. When he saw Lorelai with her arm tied to Luke's in 5.13, he nearly blew off the handle. He drank til he was drunk and then started arguing and fighting with Luke over 'Rory,' but eventually shouting that "He and Lorelai belong together" and Luke's just the for now guy...then he begs Lorelai to take him back that next instant.
And this is all while Rory had, and Emily had, both told him that Lorelai was in a relationship with someone and she's getting attached to him.

And as for recognizing Lorelai's feelings in 6.19, I don't know how he took those. He probably thought Luke was treating her badly and Lorelai was miserable because of it, not thinking about how Lorelai's real feelings for Luke. And I think that the only times he actually sees somethings not so perfect with this 'marriage' is when Lorelai is hesitating to do marriage-simple things like introducing him to the town, renewing vows, etc. And her hesitation is palpable because, this time, she's not letting herself be easily swayed by his begging, unlike Tuesday when she didn't push too hard to prevent the elopement. She expressed her feelings, but Chris can't read feelings. He can only tell when his attempts to woo are not working, when Lorelai is ignoring him completely, not answering his calls, or is denying him what he is asking for. Especially when it has to do with cementing their marriage to the public by parading it around town and at parties.

Hopefully this made a bit of sense.

lemon tart · 11-17-2006, 08:52 PM

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Jess got together with Shane when Rory didn't contact him for the whole summer after kissing him. He was never the kind to sit around and wait (much like Logan when he and Rory "broke up.") Much like Logan and the bridesmaids, Jess and Shane had their "symbiotic" relationship. I never felt sorry for Shane.

I don't have a problem with their *relationship*. They used one another, that's their business. I have problems with how he showed up places with her just to rub it in Rory's face, to provoke her. Such as in TSG, DT. That's what I meant by playing games. Actions like those ruined a character for me that I had liked.