Spoilers - Gilmore Girls Spoilers and Speculation #97 - Page 13

**Katiegg108** · 11-16-2006, 05:46 PM

Some new people listed in ep. 10 on imdb: "Gilmore Girls" Merry Fisticuffs (2006)
Ingrid Sanai Buron as Margaret
Samantha Droke as Bonnie
Cody Klop as Jacob
and Mia Cottet

there was a side for Jacob, but none for Margaret or bonnie... maybe one's the lawyer, but I can't think of who the other would be.

And Coach bennett again? Why?

gilmorebrazil · 11-16-2006, 05:46 PM

What we are forgeting is that Marty is lying to Lucy because he has feelings for her friend. He is leading her to like him and to believe she is reciprocated. How unfair and humilianting is this?

Besides, we still don't know if Marty has been rude to Rory in order to maintain his farce...

lemon tart · 11-16-2006, 05:48 PM

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Sandra, Logan did not break up with Rory by letting his sister call her, or did he? He was under the assumption they had broken up before and well told his sister and she called Rory ... or am I wrong on this?

Nope, he thought they had broken up, so when Honor bugged him about where Rory was, he told her that and she called Rory. Rory thought they were taking time. Thus to her, he broke up through Honor. He says he didn't mean for it to happen that way at all.

He didn't punt, it was a miscommunication on both their parts. Partially brought about by this being the first actual relationship Logan's ever been in and the first major fight of it.

pimbolina · 11-16-2006, 05:49 PM

Blaab, as you said, Logan only assumed that Rory knew they were broken up, he didn't tell her, it's the same with Lorelai and Luke, he didn't know they had broken up either.

Marty was the one telling the lie, so he should get the chance to tell the truth as well.

Now I'm off to bed as well.

**Eternal Flame** · 11-16-2006, 05:49 PM

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Sandra, Logan did not break up with Rory by letting his sister call her, or did he? He was under the assumption they had broken up before and well told his sister and she called Rory ... or am I wrong on this?

You're right, his speech in 6.17 was very clear on that.. He thought they were broken up,he thought that was what the fight meant.
Rory assumed that he had broken up with her through his sister.

Even Emily could point it out since she saw Marty at that Harvard/Yale Game and most likely at that wake in 5.03 as well

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Marty was the one telling the lie, so he should get the chance to tell the truth as well.

I think it would have been better for Marty to start off with the truth, and not with a lie. If you tell a lie, you just have to wait till truth comes out. By yourself or by somebody else, in this case the latter.

Javalava86 · 11-16-2006, 05:52 PM

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but if she doesn't do it, flat out refuses to do something just because of the pressure, i'd love it, it would be strong, independent Lorelai coming back. And it really could be the start of everything crumbling for CL and their marriage.

That makes two of us

lemon tart · 11-16-2006, 05:54 PM

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Marty was the one telling the lie, so he should get the chance to tell the truth as well.

As Rory already confronts him in the previous episode about what he's doing, it seems pretty plain that he's unwilling to unmask himself. Rory's adding to it already. Why should Logan as well?

Ciaobella · 11-16-2006, 05:54 PM

I have a feeling that Emily's "advise" for Lorelai is for her to take her marriage seriously or she will lose Chrisl. And since Lorelai is still in denial about her feelings for Luke she'll go along with the vow ceremony to prove to herself that she loves Chris.

GG always giveth and taketh away from LL fans. So after we have our LL moment, Chris being a jealous ass and starting a fight with Luke who hands him said ass, we are going to watch L/C exchange vows. Fade out on Lorelai's 254th Sad Face of 2006.

secret life · 11-16-2006, 05:55 PM

Thank you for posting that blaab! It was a great post.

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If Logan always had been this straightforward with other people than I would understand this, but just for example, his sister was the one telling Rory of their break up not Logan.

Huh? Why bring this up again? He wasn't lying to Rory then. He actually, honestly thought they were broken up. That is what he said to her...them not speaking to each other, her not going with him, he thought that was what it was, a break-up.

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Yes, Marty initiated the lie, but why has it to be Logan to tell Lucy the truth, when it will nothing accomplish other than hurting Lucy.

It doesn't have to be Logan who will tell Lucy; I wish it weren't Logan. But Marty and Rory are not telling the truth.

What it will accomplish is the truth coming out, the truth setting Lucy free, so to speak, Rory not having to go on with the sham, and Logan not having to lie as well and going along with the pretense.

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And this has nothing to do with Chris/Luke punching each other.
If Logan wants to get back at Marty he should confront him and punch him out, not hurt his girlfriend to get back at him.

I only mentioned Chris/Luke punching each other because people seem to be getting immense glee out of seeing one or the other get his "due". Punching is the least mature of ways to get back at someone if you're upset with him...and yet people celebrated that. And now, people are expecting Logan to be "mature" and everything and thinking him wrong for giving Marty his comeuppance. I would rather Logan reveal the truth than him and Marty throwing punches at each other!

Logan is NOT doing this to hurt Lucy, it was MARTY who hurt Lucy with the lie. And it is now MARTY who should fix things with Lucy (and Rory). HE is the one accountable/responsible for this whole mess.

pimbolina · 11-16-2006, 05:59 PM

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As Rory already confronts him in the previous episode about what he's doing, it seems pretty plain that he's unwilling to unmask himself. Rory's adding to it already. Why should Logan as well?

I never said that Logan should continue with the lie, but rather to confront Lucy directly he should confront Marty, but I don't think Logan really is looking out for Lucy in this matter, but has his own agenda to look after.

I don't think we will ever agree on this.

I just find it funny that Chris gets all sort of understanding, while Marty gets flamed all the time.

damselfly · 11-16-2006, 06:03 PM

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Nope, he thought they had broken up, so when Honor bugged him about where Rory was, he told her that and she called Rory. Rory thought they were taking time. Thus to her, he broke up through Honor. He says he didn't mean for it to happen that way at all.

Didn't he tell Rory he only told Honor they were broken up to shut her up? It almost seemed like he couldn't back up after that -- that until then he hadn't decided if they were broken up or not.

Back to Marty -- we don't know his reason for lying. Maybe Lucy is the jealous type. He did back Rory into a corner, but I still say it's not for Logan to get involved, other than to give his opinion and give Marty a chance to tell Lucy himself. Maybe that's what he does - tells Marty it wasn't fair to involve Rory like that, and if he doesn't tell Lucy, he will. But that's not what I got from the description. We'll have to watch and see -- or wait for more details.

Cappuccino · 11-16-2006, 06:04 PM

Coach Benett again - maybe Anna digs her out again to use it against Luke. Anna probably knows that she sleeps with every father there and accuses Luke of being one of them. Or he's going on a second date with her

After seeing LC in town in ep9 - who knows. I mean he's wearing his leather jacket. Maybe he was on a date.

Emily's advice. I think she's going to say: Lorelai suck it up and get over it. It's a marriage. Hard work and you don't give up that easily. Besides you're a Gilmore. Gilmores don't give up. Chris is a good man

pimbolina · 11-16-2006, 06:06 PM

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Huh? Why bring this up again? He wasn't lying to Rory then. He actually, honestly thought they were broken up. That is what he said to her...them not speaking to each other, her not going with him, he thought that was what it was, a break-up.

It doesn't have to be Logan who will tell Lucy; I wish it weren't Logan. But Marty and Rory are not telling the truth.

What it will accomplish is the truth coming out, the truth setting Lucy free, so to speak, Rory not having to go on with the sham, and Logan not having to lie as well and going along with the pretense.

I only mentioned Chris/Luke punching each other because people seem to be getting immense glee out of seeing one or the other get his "due". Punching is the least mature of ways to get back at someone if you're upset with him...and yet people celebrated that. And now, people are expecting Logan to be "mature" and everything and thinking him wrong for giving Marty his comeuppance. I would rather Logan reveal the truth than him and Marty throwing punches at each other!

Logan is NOT doing this to hurt Lucy, it was MARTY who hurt Lucy with the lie. And it is now MARTY who should fix things with Lucy (and Rory). HE is the one accountable/responsible for this whole mess.

If Logan had always been looking out for people to get the truth why not be more clear to Rory, not only assuming things.

As I said countless times before, Logan won’t have to go along with the lie, but could confront Marty it, but as it seems he doesn’t care about Lucy’s feelings in this, only his own.

I’m one of those people who enjoyed the punch, I know it’s not the right thing to do, still I enjoyed it. But I don’t recall Chris or Luke hitting Lorelai, Logan is only hurting Lucy.

Yes Marty should fix things with Lucy, but Logan won’t give him the chance to do so.

Now I really need some sleep.

GEORGEIII · 11-16-2006, 06:09 PM

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I never said that Logan should continue with the lie, but rather to confront Lucy directly he should confront Marty, but I don't think Logan really is looking out for Lucy in this matter, but has his own agenda to look after.

I don't think we will ever agree on this.

I just find it funny that Chris gets all sort of understanding, while Marty gets flamed all the time.

Well, we don't really know how it happens yet...It may very well be that in a scene where Rory introduces Logan to her new BFFs, Marty suddenly arrives in the premises and Logan goes up to him and greets him, says something like "Ah, I have not seen you since...", Lucy asks Logan where does he know Marty from, and Logan begins to answer her before Rory or Marty have a chance to do much of anything...

lilmelodie · 11-16-2006, 06:10 PM

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I have a feeling that Emily's "advise" for Lorelai is for her to take her marriage seriously or she will lose Chrisl. And since Lorelai is still in denial about her feelings for Luke she'll go along with the vow ceremony to prove to herself that she loves Chris.

GG always giveth and taketh away from LL fans. So after we have our LL moment, Chris being a jealous ass and starting a fight with Luke who hands him said ass, we are going to watch L/C exchange vows. Fade out on Lorelai's 254th Sad Face of 2006.

Bite your tongue! I would like to think that she doesn't. I mean, we don't know that Emily actually has the party, only that she planned it. Hey, I can dream! I'm trying to be in a happy place. Not in one where I want to smack some sense into Lorelai.