Spoilers - Gilmore Girls Spoilers and Speculation #96 - Page 14

blaab · 11-15-2006, 02:13 PM

Just watched the DC, thanks for posting that the new one is up, Katie, and well, I do find it interesting that Rory finds it so important apparantly to make Chris believe she is okee with it all. With Lorelai keeping up this appearance. Anyone have any thoughts on why this is the case?

A few scenarios went through my mind and well I just am not sure. I am not thinking it is because Rory was not there with them, I am not thinking that at all. That wouldn't be so hard to say, would it? That she would be upset that she couldn't be there with them. I really don't think that's it. She could have mentioned that to both of them and not only to Lorelai. Or is she sort of afraid to rock the boat with her dad, because she has noticed he is trying so hard ... or is it to establish that Chris in a way is sort of the outsider when it comes to the three of them. Her feelings towards Lorelai very loyal and not wanting to sort of question her in front of Chris and also showing she does feel free/safe enough to tell her mom how she really feels.

So I feel it's either Rory sensing that Lorelai should have dealt with Luke before all this and well she did rush into this and/or she is feeling Chris is much more into this than she believes her mom is and/or she is still afraid that Chris will end up hurting Lorelai, since well that has been commented by Rory before or she is still afraid that again their relationship, the Lorelai and Chris one, will go before her relationship with her dad. A relationship I felt she was happy with and was also sort of seperate from Lorelai. A marriage of course sort of implying that from now on she would more be dealing with her parents instead of her mom and dad seperate ...

Taking what happened before into account, which makes sense

, there were two things Rory worried about, her mom getting hurt and Rory's relationship with her dad getting messed up because of stuff between her mom and her dad ...

I dunno, many options and I am kind of tired ... am gonna watch the DC again, maybe something will click ...

Sure, there is an opening to letting it turn out not legal. But I guess since I sort of accepted that option, that was not what really stood out for me. The thing again I found the most interesting was the Lorelai/Rory stuff going on. Lorelai very aware that Rory would not be happy about this.

charmed1NM · 11-15-2006, 02:15 PM

I dont think its fair to call Chris 2 minute man, lets be fair, the Luke and Lorelai sex life was even shorter, succumbong to a little peck here and there

damselfly · 11-15-2006, 02:16 PM

It answers the question of where they got married, and raises the question of whether it's legal.

lancer1993 · 11-15-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ele309 (View Post)

10 seconds of Rory being mad and that's all.

And why is she hiding her feelings in front of Chris.

The 10% illegal thing is interesting.

And LC went to their wedding place to see lilies - in Paris in November???

BTW: the DC says Nov. 21th as the air date, it there a rerun next week?

I didn't notice that, but didnt' the promo say next week? or was is a general promo to keep the fans hooked LOL

Yep lets hold on to that 10% chance it's not legal!

lancer1993 · 11-15-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by charmed1NM (View Post)

I dont think its fair to call Chris 2 minute man, lets be fair, the Luke and Lorelai sex life was even shorter, succumbong to a little peck here and there

Oh you poor girl, kissing is not sex

blaab - I'm about to watch it but you could be right, Lorelai is yet to deal with Luke, she has not even talked to the guy in 6 months!

If Rory is against this and they don't work out then did she help to end it?

10% chance of not being legal, 90% chance of us being in denial!

Cappuccino · 11-15-2006, 02:24 PM

This is so not legal. It's impossible. You have to do a civil ceremony first otherwise they won't even marry you.

Father and daughter really are connected

Welcome back in 2006 Lor and Chris

1983 is in the past, you're not 15/16 anymore and reality is going to hit you where it hurts the most

**Katiegg108** · 11-15-2006, 02:29 PM

Ele, you're confusing me, next tuesday is the 21st... so, no, no repeat.

Blaab, I like your ideas why Rory's playing happy for Chris. I think it's mainly that Rory's not upset at Chris here. She can see how happy he is and she has always known that Chris wants this, and she probably wouldn't expect Chris to immediately include her in an elopement. It's Lorelai who she'll have the beef with. Lorelai's the one that was just engaged to someone else, who is freakishly close to her daughter and then doesn't include her in on the wedding. She probably expected more from this than her mother... jmo though.

lancer1993 · 11-15-2006, 02:35 PM

So did Chris wonder who's boat is in Lorelai shed?

Yep that is a happy family at the end, can't wait to hear more from Rory 'cause you know that is coming, but I bet she is fine by the end of the ep, maybe Mc Moneybags will buy her a ring so the whole family is matching, then the sweats!

And where is PA?

Cappuccino · 11-15-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by charmed1NM (View Post)

I dont think its fair to call Chris 2 minute man, lets be fair, the Luke and Lorelai sex life was even shorter, succumbong to a little peck here and there

Why not ? That whole sl between them happened in one hour

They didn't even have 2 minutes of sex considering everything they did outside the hotel room or counting the whatevers on the ceiling

blaab · 11-15-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiegg108 (View Post)

Ele, you're confusing me, next tuesday is the 21st... so, no, no repeat.

Blaab, I like your ideas why Rory's playing happy for Chris. I think it's mainly that Rory's not upset at Chris here. She can see how happy he is and she has always known that Chris wants this, and she probably wouldn't expect Chris to immediately include her in an elopement. It's Lorelai who she'll have the beef with. Lorelai's the one that was just engaged to someone else, who is freakishly close to her daughter and then doesn't include her in on the wedding. She probably expected more from this than her mother... jmo though.

I was just as confused about the date

I totally get what you are saying Katie, I guess that's where my part about Rory's loyalties and well Chris sort of being the outsider here, comes into play. That part was sort of drifting around in some FF-vacuum ... it is in the post now ...

I loved the clip, besides the fact that I thought Rory looked particularly beautiful, it showed very well the bond Rory and Lorelai have. Even is she is pissed at her mom, or maybe that just shows it. Lorelai right from the beginning knowing and sensing that Rory was not gonna be happy about this and well Chris I guess not knowing his daughter as well as he thinks and Rory, I get that, not showing how she really feels in front of her dad also ... he wants this to be a family, but I guess that ain't so easy, after all these years these two have relied on each other. Whether that is/was a good thing or a bad thing is besides the point.

I am out of here ... later all. I am getting too annoyed with FF at the moment ... slow and hard to handle ...

caf123 · 11-15-2006, 02:57 PM

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90% chance that they're married, 10% that they signed a very expensive dog license... since it was in French.

Haha. But what did the priest think he was selling them? Maybe Mr Kim could track down this man of the cloth and ask ... now that would be interesting.

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I also remember Lorelai making that statement about wanting Rory to have more than her when Rory dropped out of Yale. She didn't say this when Rory and Logan broke up, or Jess left SH or when she had an affair with Dean. It was in regard to her academic and career successes.

Very good point.

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I am srue Lorelai wants Rory to find love and happiness, all mothers want that for their kids. She even spoke to her about being able to express love to another person and that she hoped she wasn't like her mother (well fat chance of that now lol).

She also taught Rory to wallow when the youngster experienced her first break-up ... we are seeing a very different Lorelai now. It’s questionnable, to say the least, whether this year shows true insight into Lorelai or merely turns a once-loved character into a plot device in the interests of postponing the “inevitable” and showcasing some version of that left-over season-three Christopher plan. That this reduces Lorelai to the ditzy lead in a soap opera triangle is, presumably, mere collateral damage.

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But I still believe having more than Lorelai meant the Ivy League education and freedom to do whatever she wanted.

Absolutely. And now that Rory faces this threshhold – will DSR pull off one believable plotline this year or will Rory’s journey degenerate into a series of freak-outs culminating in a possible graduate school solution for DSR’s dream of a season 8.

**Katiegg108** · 11-15-2006, 02:58 PM

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I totally get what you are saying Katie, I guess that's where my part about Rory's loyalties and well Chris sort of being the outsider here, comes into play. That part was sort of drifting around in some FF-vacuum ... it is in the post now ...

I loved the clip, besides the fact that I thought Rory looked particularly beautiful, it showed very well the bond Rory and Lorelai have. Even is she is pissed at her mom, or maybe that just shows it. Lorelai right from the beginning knowing and sensing that Rory was not gonna be happy about this and well Chris I guess not knowing his daughter as well as he thinks and Rory, I get that, not showing how she really feels in front of her dad also ... he wants this to be a family, but I guess that ain't so easy, after all these years these two have relied on each other.

For sure she's more loyal to Lorelai... she loves Chris, he's her dad, but her and Lorelai have so much, I mean, she's always putting her mother's happiness before Chris's...

And it did show the bond that Rory/Lorelai have. I loved Lorelai's "really?" when Rory said she was happy. It so showed how much Lorelai thought Rory would be upset, and then when she said, "well..." when Chris left the room. Lorelai just knew that Rory wouldn't have been happy. but I wish more would be done with the fact that Rory wasn't there... like a "i'm sorry" or something. I don't know... Lorelai knew Rory would be upset in paris, Chris thought she'd be "thrilled". I just love that little irony there.

Mots15 · 11-15-2006, 03:04 PM

I think Lorelai will assume Rory's mad because she wasn't included in the wedding/elopement, but that Rory will tell her she's made the worst mistake of her life, marrying Chris so quickly on the rebound from Luke.

colorblind · 11-15-2006, 03:05 PM

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I dont think its fair to call Chris 2 minute man, lets be fair, the Luke and Lorelai sex life was even shorter, succumbong to a little peck here and there

we're not talking about how many times they have sex in one week, we're talking about them having sex for 2 minutes. you know, about how much the actual action (if you can even call it an action) lasted. get it?

gjoni · 11-15-2006, 03:09 PM

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I was just as confused about the date

I totally get what you are saying Katie, I guess that's where my part about Rory's loyalties and well Chris sort of being the outsider here, comes into play. That part was sort of drifting around in some FF-vacuum ... it is in the post now ...

I loved the clip, besides the fact that I thought Rory looked particularly beautiful, it showed very well the bond Rory and Lorelai have. Even is she is pissed at her mom, or maybe that just shows it. Lorelai right from the beginning knowing and sensing that Rory was not gonna be happy about this and well Chris I guess not knowing his daughter as well as he thinks and Rory, I get that, not showing how she really feels in front of her dad also ... he wants this to be a family, but I guess that ain't so easy, after all these years these two have relied on each other.

That's how I felt watching the DC. Lorelai felt bad that afterall, she had married without Rory, and Rory was reluctent to share her true feelings with her father present.

I think Rory doesn't confront her father not only because she has less of a problem with his role in all this and she expected more or something different from her mother, not from him, but also because she's simply not that close or comfortable honestly speaking her mind in front of him. Not yet, at least. After twenty plus years of just her and Lorelai, she's just not able to be frank about everything with him, or around him , especially not about something which is so emotional for them all.

Katie, thanks for the heads up about the DC.