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Old 11-29-2006, 09:56 AM
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Yes, the fight is this coming Tues. And Chris is still licking his wounds when he reads Lorelai's letter, sending him on a path of revenge <cue dramatic music>.

Strictly spec with a side of fanfic thrown in lol.
Or he just lets his money work for him again. I mean he said in season 6 you can crush people with money didn't he ? So who knows what comes out of his twisted little mind when things don't go his way.
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:23 AM
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If Chris really wants to put the final nail in the coffin in his relationship with Lorelai then he would do something to hurt Luke's chances of getting visitation rights - Lorelai would never be able to forgive him for screwing up Luke's and April's relationship - especially given Chris' absence with Rory.

But, then again, he has been being portrayed as woefully clueless about Rory and Lorelai, so I guess anything is possible, but I really hope they don't go this route - I don't want C/L to end in an ugly fashion - I just want them to end with the recognition that the fantasy did not pan out -
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If Chris really wants to put the final nail in the coffin in his relationship with Lorelai then he would do something to hurt Luke's chances of getting visitation rights - Lorelai would never be able to forgive him for screwing up Luke's and April's relationship - especially given Chris' absence with Rory.

But, then again, he has been being portrayed as woefully clueless about Rory and Lorelai, so I guess anything is possible, but I really hope they don't go this route - I don't want C/L to end in an ugly fashion - I just want them to end with the recognition that the fantasy did not pan out -
There are actual reasons this "fantasy" doesn't pan out. And they have a great deal to do with who these characters actually are.

It's who Christopher actually is, beneath the "charm". For fake-Lorelai, it's who she was and might - if we can believe it - become again some day.

I'd prefer to see that shown honestly, not be swept under some conveniently meaningless "just didn't work out" carpet.

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Old 11-29-2006, 10:40 AM
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Oh, I agree. We probably won't see anything truly meaningful come out of the demise of C/L - personally, at this point, I don't care. I just want it to end. The sooner the better - for me.
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I am wondering if the marriage is now more about winning with Christopher? He isn't going to let go without a fight, the fact he is soooooo clueless and has remaind so, (Don't we have it pointed out in every episode this season, not seeing that Rory is upset, the 'welcome (not really) wagon', taking over Lorelia's life and house?) I think it will come down to Lorelia having to tear herself away from the spiderweb Christopher has been weaving and she will need to slay the relationship once and for all.

BTW, the first song in the promo is a French carol, "Ding Dong Merrily on High"
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Dancing With Stars Hollow

On ''Gilmore Girls,'' Lorelai tries to make the town accept Christopher; plus, Rory parties hearty with Marty
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Is it just me, or does Gilmore Girls feel very much like an episodic sitcom this year? It's like you can feel the wheels churning behind every scene. A pickle spill? Yes, there will be a pickle spill outside of town, and everyone will gather and respond. Appendicitis — genius! A home birth! Yes, Liz will have a home birth, and Luke will cradle the baby and determine that he will miss no more of April's milestones! And now all the scenes end with an over-and-out bad closing line. Luke gets news that his sister is going into labor? We get a scene that ends with ''I'm on my way!'' The zip is gone, and I think we can all agree that it's gone forever. That we can do nothing about. But, on a more productive note, the writers can keep integrating Babette and Miss Patty into the show. Their halfhearted welcomes of Christopher were terrifically funny. And they can give us more of Sookie, and even let her have a moment outside of the inn kitchen. (Best line of the evening: ''Jackson's a fiendish two-stepper, but he's handsy.'') And they can limit April's dramatic scenes. I've always been a defender of the poor thing, but even I wanted to smash her glasses when she had another meltdown, this time because her mean mama is moving them to New Mexico. When she started in on that bad, tearless crying jag, I just wanted to help pack her bags and send her on her way. But this episode, in which Lorelai tried to ingratiate Christopher with Stars Hollow, and Rory made nice with Marty at Lucy's party, had some interesting moments. (Although the scene of those A.E.G.'s planning their 2002-themed shindig — ''We are going to Ugg up!'' — almost sent me to bed in protest.)

But enough with the complaints. Herewith, some highlights:

Here's a mandate I'd like to see put into effect. I want a scene of Paris Geller dancing, or, as she put it, ''scorching the floorboards,'' in every episode. In the meantime, a bonus to whichever stylist dressed her in that blue sweater with a Siamese cat on the front. And another one to whoever choreographed that little number she and Doyle performed at the party to Pink's ''Comin' Out.'' It takes a lot to make me yearn for my college days, but seeing Paris shake her way into the center circle, surrounded by geeky kids in awe of her moves, made me a wee bit nostalgic. The only nice thing I can say about those A.E.G.'s is that they rightfully worship Paris, and for that, and that alone, they can be spared.

I'm genuinely intrigued by the return of Marty. Physically, he's a winning combination of the kid from Big and the character actor Campbell Scott. And the scene of him making a tequila-slammer concoction for Rory was charming and sure-footed. But as much as I'm digging him, that creepy, aggressive kiss he shoved on Lucy's mouth after he slipped and told Rory how beautiful she looked was a turnoff. Still, I like his earnest vibe, and it was refreshing to see Rory at a party (with people her own age!). I do hope someone gives her better notes the next time she has to play tipsy though. Bledel seemed to remember halfway through the scene that she'd been sipping the sauce, as she only started slurring and acting silly when Marty sat down. Meanwhile, I kept waiting for Logan to pop out from behind Paris' hips, having cut his fancy client dinner at Nobu short so he could surprise Rory and Marty on the sofa. Points to the writers for passing on that predictable awkward moment and opting to wait for a more interesting confrontation down the road.

And I really liked the scene when Christopher came down the stairs looking all Rico Suave for his man date with Jackson. (Note: One ''man date'' reference is very funny. Seventeen is overkill. And it doesn't make it less irritating to have a character on the show point out that it's irritating. Restraint, people.) Lorelai's twittering about his outfit (''that black shirt is a little Joaquin Phoenix at the Oscars'') was sweet and funny. And I was genuinely amused by Christopher and Jackson's beer together, and didn't mind their dancing around the subject of his staying power with farming metaphors. I am nervous, though, that the writers are working double time to convince us that Christopher's a good guy, with nothing but honest intentions. Yes, he's the fat wallet who ruined the knit-athon. (Oof, what a doofy buzzkill move that was.) Yes, he's a Stars Hollow outsider walking around in fitted jeans and hair gel. Yes, he kept referring to Jackson, a tad too reductively, as ''a farmer'' and was shown in the scenes from next week dismissing Luke as ''that diner guy.'' But the writers have also got Christopher spouting off his intentions to tend to his crops morning, noon, and night. They've got Lorelai declaring, in almost a direct lecture to bloggers and message boarders, that even though her life didn't turn out the way everyone hoped, she needs people to get on board. We are being forced to get on board, people. And if they yank that board right out from under us, as it looks like they might start doing next week, well then, I'll feel manipulated and unnecessarily batted about by the writers. If this whole marriage to Christopher really is just a cheap plot device to prolong the suspense about Luke and Lorelai's eventual marriage in the town gazebo with all their friends cheering them on, I'll really be pissed. Not because I want Chris and Lorelai to live happily ever after, or because I approve of Christopher's past actions, or because I'm over Luke. I'll be put off because this whole first half of a season will have been a lazy cheat. And for that reason, I'm placing bets that Lorelai will end up with Christopher (or, more likely, alone), and Luke will move to New Mexico to stay close to April.

Death to Aerie.

What do you think? Did Scott Patterson have a cold when they shot this episode? Are you rooting for a Marty-Rory reunion? Were you seduced at all by Christopher's declarations of intent, or are you counting the minutes till the Luke-Chris showdown in Stars Hollow?

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Old 11-29-2006, 11:05 AM
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"I can totally see through him." "Hold on...is that...it is." "Yup, it's his spleen."

This is what drives me nuts because of people bashing Attack. How else are people supposed to be portrayed, as teenagers, freaking out? April's freaking out last night. Not only showed that SHE IS HER FATHER'S DAUGHTER. It also demonstrated a rather realistic response that kids have all over this land. When situations like this occur in their lives. If you want to happy April, then you might as well hate every kid every where whomever threw a fit. Since, in that situation, I would throw more than a fit, but tableware.

Caf, what part of the Rory and Logan story are you not seeing? It's right there. It's right there on the screen. Look harder...Scout's honour...there's something BIG happening there.

Finally, C+C Disgruntled Factory, wow, the best you can do is come up with some transparent arguments? Yes, it's so BLAH. The A++ storyline on this show that is NECESSARY AND WILL BE BENEFITIAL FOR WHAT YOU WANT IN THE FUTURE (CW pays good money to CAP that), is currently taking up it's proper amount of time. IF this time was taken up by some other storyline that you liked. You know as well as everyone else in here knows, that your reactions would be INHERENTLY DIFFERENT. Since, you are, part of a group of fans that let one part of the show DAMPEN IT ALL for you. That makes about as much sense as being a Cowboys fan, who hates TO so much, that he does not enjoy watching Tony Romo pulls a lazarus on that franchise. Again, we can be cool, but these sort of arguments only leave me wondering who are you trying to fool?

ETA: I am going to ask nicely. Otherwise, I would be dropping curses in here like Ralphis dropping bombs on Scott Fargas. So, could you JJs, post those articles in YOUR OWN THREAD? Seriously, all they do is piss of half the thread inadvertantly, because it's not any JJs fault that these writers are ****ing idiots. That entire EW.com review goes on about Marty as if Logan were some *******. How am I supposed to take that article? IF it's me. I get pissed off and want to curse to high heaven, then flame that person so hard. That she's crying afterwards. That's how aggrevated I become by those ****ing articles. So, I am begging, pleading, and asking you to post them elsewhere. Since they do not fit HERE because this is the MAIN THREAD. Where we DISCUSS the ENTIRE SHOW not just part of it...like all of those articles many of you post.

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Oh my. Imagine getting a knitathon classic thong for Christmas. Oy. That's funny. Hee!
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Hard to decifer what Jason said, but he said something about April's freakout breakdown.

I haven't seen the scene more than once, but from my memory, the writing was probably fine/great and realistic for a 13 year old. It was VM's acting that ruined it. It was over-the-top crying that was worse than Rory's breakdown in the psychologist's office last season.

Yes, a 13 year old can be immature and cry. But I've never seen a kid go off the handle in such an extreme way within three seconds. That's called a friggen temper tantrum, not a kind who's venting her frustrations.

When she was sick last week, I loved her tantrum because she was SICK and moody and taking it out on Luke that she couldn't go to the party. This time, the over-the-top doesn't work as well.
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This is what drives me nuts because of people bashing Attack. How else are people supposed to be portrayed, as teenagers, freaking out? April's freaking out last night. Not only showed that SHE IS HER FATHER'S DAUGHTER. It also demonstrated a rather realistic response that kids have all over this land. When situations like this occur in their lives. If you want to happy April, then you might as well hate every kid every where whomever threw a fit. Since, in that situation, I would throw more than a fit, but tableware.
Wouldn't I have loved to be a fly on the wall during April/Anna's conversation abou the move. I bet April WAS throwing tableware
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But, then again, he has been being portrayed as woefully clueless about Rory and Lorelai, so I guess anything is possible, but I really hope they don't go this route - I don't want C/L to end in an ugly fashion - I just want them to end with the recognition that the fantasy did not pan out -
I wouldn't put my money on a happy ending there - each one riding off into their own sunsets.
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This is what drives me nuts because of people bashing Attack. How else are people supposed to be portrayed, as teenagers, freaking out? April's freaking out last night. Not only showed that SHE IS HER FATHER'S DAUGHTER. It also demonstrated a rather realistic response that kids have all over this land. When situations like this occur in their lives. If you want to happy April, then you might as well hate every kid every where whomever threw a fit. Since, in that situation, I would throw more than a fit, but tableware.
I didn't think she was questioning the validity of a teenage freakout as much as she was commenting on VM's terrible acting in that scene.
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Caf, what part of the Rory and Logan story are you not seeing? It's right there. It's right there on the screen. Look harder...Scout's honour...there's something BIG happening there.
I could try not to blink ... OK. Seriously. I know I'm leaving myself wide open, but I can't think of any other way to put this - Some scenes do last two minutes and still have a big significance. Like the one we know is coming next week.

But still. I'd like to see MORE of Rory's story. As in, more minutes - more screentime. Her own story as well as the R/L story.

Yes, I got the significance of that R/L scene. And for their relationship, I can see how that conveyed what was being said, for this episode.

Perhaps if someone timed it, the screen-minutes weren't even as disproportionate as they felt last night - but that's how they felt when I watched this ep.


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