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Old 11-28-2006, 11:04 AM
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Do we think Luke ever paid Logan for that vineyard valentine necklace? I guess it doesn't matter since the whole thing has been forgotten. I've never seen that jewelry on either girl.
I think he probably might have offered, and that Logan would have decilined. He might have gone back and given Logan a check for an aproximate amount which Logan likely never cashed.

I don't remember ever seeing the necklace Richard gave Emily for their vow renewal again either, though.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:05 AM
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No she doesn't have her own room. She is using Jess' bed and space - no walls or anything. I don't really think that's a problem for April or otherwise she would have said something.
Whether it's a problem for her or not doesn't really matter in a custody case though. The court would (in real life, not necessarily GG) want her to have her own room.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:09 AM
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Whether it's a problem for her or not doesn't really matter in a custody case though. The court would (in real life, not necessarily GG) want her to have her own room.
And I don't think that is going to be a problem. If they tell Luke she needs her own room he'll give it to her.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:10 AM
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It's interesting. If anyone brings up Luke's own role in his current unhappiness all of a sudden it's about that he's -- in YOUR words -- poor and dirty and that people like myself want to see him eviserated. Sorry, but that's quite the dramatic leap. (Besides, Luke isn't poor.)
Is it? He's a brick for years and years, then he goes and makes one mistake - for four months - OK, let's compare:

Rory drops out of school, misses a semester, and miraculously catches up with a few 6am early starts. (I actually blame the writers for so overlooking her storyline that she didn't even do summer school classes, but this is the plot we were given).

Logan and Rory break up and Rory resists his attempts to get back together - until Lorelai bales him out. They break up again, due to their own flaws - and their relationship is saved by the TV miracle of a dramatic accident producing a hospital bedside reconciliation. (Again, one can blame the writers - but still. puh-leese)

Lorelai keeps her mouth shut for those same months - as pointed out above - and gets the "consequence" of a new romance/marriage. That's not a consequence, it's a choice.

Christopher disappears and neglects his daughter for 22 years - only to reappear just in time to be rewarded with a millionaire's inheritance and the girl of his dreams.

All the characters are flawed, only one is getting the book thrown at him. I suspect it may be intended as TV manipulation to build audience sympathy - but oy, enough already. For viewers who didn't totally disown the guy for one four-month mistake, it's overload.

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By the way, does Luke have a separate bedroom for April over the diner -- not just a separate section? I was never clear on that and it would matter in a custody case.
Still unclear if we're getting an actual custody case or more typical access proceedings. However. Let's see if the laws of France actually apply, then the ocntinuity fairy can move on to the family law of Connecticut.


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Old 11-28-2006, 11:13 AM
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Following your logic, if he didnt' screw things up with Lorelai, than Anna would never attempt to move April to NM? Damn. It's a wonder Liz and TJ havent' disowned him, the townies haven't burnt down the diner and April hasn't run away from SH yet.
And all in all, it's always Rory's fault....
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:17 AM
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Is it? He's a brick for years and years, then he goes and makes one mistake - for four months - OK, let's compare:

Rory drops out of school, misses a semester, and miraculously catches up with a few 6am early starts. (I actually blame the writers for so overlooking her storyline that she didn't even do summer school classes, but this is the plot we were given).

Logan and Rory break up and Rory resists his attempts to get back together - until Lorelai bales him out. They break up again, due to their own flaws - and their relationship is saved by the TV miracle of a dramatic accident producing a hospital bedside reconciliation. (Again, one can blame the writers - but still. puh-leese)

Lorelai keeps her mouth shut for those same months - as pointed out above - and gets the "consequence" of a new romance/marriage. That's not a consequence, it's a choice.

Christopher disappears and neglects his daughter for 22 years - only to reappear just in time to be rewarded with a millionaire's inheritance and the girl of his dreams.

All the characters are flawed, only one is getting the book thrown at him. I suspect it may be intended as TV manipulation to build audience sympathy - but oy, enough already. For viewers who didn't totally disown the guy for one four-month mistake, it's overload.

Still unclear if we're getting an actual custody case or more typical access proceedings. However. Let's see if the laws of France actually apply, then the ocntinuity fairy can move on to the family law of Connecticut.


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Old 11-28-2006, 11:22 AM
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All the characters are flawed, only one is getting the book thrown at him. I suspect it may be intended as TV manipulation to build audience sympathy - but oy, enough already. For viewers who didn't totally disown the guy for one four-month mistake, it's overload.
Only one? Lorelai, Rory, Logan, Emily, Richard have never been shown suffering for their mistakes? Have never been raked over the coals by the online fanbase? That does take some blinders.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:22 AM
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Is it? He's a brick for years and years, then he goes and makes one mistake - for four months - OK, let's compare:

Rory drops out of school, misses a semester, and miraculously catches up with a few 6am early starts. (I actually blame the writers for so overlooking her storyline that she didn't even do summer school classes, but this is the plot we were given).

Logan and Rory break up and Rory resists his attempts to get back together - until Lorelai bales him out. They break up again, due to their own flaws - and their relationship is saved by the TV miracle of a dramatic accident producing a hospital bedside reconciliation. (Again, one can blame the writers - but still. puh-leese)

Lorelai keeps her mouth shut for those same months - as pointed out above - and gets the "consequence" of a new romance/marriage. That's not a consequence, it's a choice.

Christopher disappears and neglects his daughter for 22 years - only to reappear just in time to be rewarded with a millionaire's inheritance and the girl of his dreams.

All the characters are flawed, only one is getting the book thrown at him. I suspect it may be intended as TV manipulation to build audience sympathy - but oy, enough already. For viewers who didn't totally disown the guy for one four-month mistake, it's overload.




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Old 11-28-2006, 11:26 AM
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I guess it doesn't matter since the whole thing has been forgotten. I've never seen that jewelry on either girl.
I think he probably might have offered, and that Logan would have decilined. He might have gone back and given Logan a check for an aproximate amount which Logan likely never cashed.

I don't remember ever seeing the necklace Richard gave Emily for their vow renewal again either, though.
I think Amy Sherman Palladino put them all right back in her jewelry case.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:27 AM
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All the characters are flawed, only one is getting the book thrown at him. I suspect it may be intended as TV manipulation to build audience sympathy - but oy, enough already. For viewers who didn't totally disown the guy for one four-month mistake, it's overload.
Well I agree all the characters are flawed, but I don't see only Luke getting the book thrown at him. I have seen all these characters facing hard times. All might deal with them differently though ... some have found ways to struggle through them, some have never done that.

ETA I guess Sandlynn already answered ...
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:28 AM
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All the characters are flawed, only one is getting the book thrown at him.
Duck, Luke, duck!!

But seriously, Luke lost 'his' girl (partly because of his own faults, but it's not about that, what I'm trying to say) to his enemy (if I can call Chris that; he felt sorta threatened by him), his diner gets trashed, Anna wants to take April with her (and away from him); what else? Isn't Luke hurt enough?
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:33 AM
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Do we think Luke ever paid Logan for that vineyard valentine necklace? I guess it doesn't matter since the whole thing has been forgotten. I've never seen that jewelry on either girl.
I think he probably might have offered, and that Logan would have decilined. He might have gone back and given Logan a check for an aproximate amount which Logan likely never cashed.

I don't remember ever seeing the necklace Richard gave Emily for their vow renewal again either, though.
I think Logan and Luke never met after AVV. Probably we'll only see them in the same room again when Richard gets sick.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:37 AM
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Duck, Luke, duck!!

But seriously, Luke lost 'his' girl (partly because of his own faults, but it's not about that, what I'm trying to say) to his enemy (if I can call Chris that; he felt sorta threatened by him), his diner gets trashed, Anna wants to take April with her (and away from him); what else? Isn't Luke hurt enough?
Apparently not. Not until the MT is done with him.

In this particular storyline, I only see Luke suffering the consequences for his sins. And I see him realizing, slowly and subtly (sp?) just what he lost and why. His threat to break Kirk's bones if he hurt Lulu; the look of regret and recognition while watching The Phila Story, and now tonight's heartbreak. The other players - Lorelai, she's in denial and Chris is in Cluelessville. So why did DR just keep heaping the punishment on Luke? Me thinks in part to reverse the DumbAssery Amy painted Luke with last season, and to make him a more sympathetic character for when the ReUnion happens.

But right now, he's the only one who is moving forward in the Journey. I just can't wait to see Chris suffer for his sins finally.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:38 AM
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Duck, Luke, duck!!

But seriously, Luke lost 'his' girl (partly because of his own faults, but it's not about that, what I'm trying to say) to his enemy (if I can call Chris that; he felt sorta threatened by him), his diner gets trashed, Anna wants to take April with her (and away from him); what else? Isn't Luke hurt enough?

I would say WTM, it's time for better times.

Give this man his girls back!!!
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Love the title.

P.S. It would be even better without the numbers.


Hm, what’s with the new episode description saying that L/C told E/R already and only the Townies are left to convince now. I hope that L/C telling E/R won’t happen off screen, alla Lorelai saying to Chris “yeah we managed it to go to hell and back, the Town is going to be a walk in the park.” I want to see it when Lorelai tells Emily the news and I want to see a smad Emily Gilmore!
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