Spoilers - Gilmore Girls Spoilers and Speculation #106 ~ Welcome Back, Titles, Welcome Back - Page 12

Sandlynn · 11-27-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ckomodo (View Post)

Uh, Lemontart, investing in a house that is going to be mutual marital property is very diferent, morally and legally, then cleaning the gutters and drinking coffee at a booth in a diner. Luke gave up on the other house and put time and money into Lorelai's house on the understanding that it would be thier marital home. In real life there would have probably been a loan signed by both of them to pay for the renovations, or a second mortgage in both thier names. They were engaged, they renovated a house together, she should have to buy him out or re-emburse him. We don't know if we are to presume this has all been handled off screen or wether because they never see eachother then it hasn't come up, but this "Luke never mattered to Lorelai, he was never a part of her life" stuff is kind of silly.

Luke's brother-in-law put a big hole in Lorelai's house. She could've sued him since she had not hired him to do anything, so they can call it even.

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Thank you ckomodo, for spelling out the difference between the lawnboy and Luke. I read a post that questioned some posters over-emphasizing Luke's place in Rory's life. Well to me the post you referenced so ridiculously under-estimated Luke's place in the CS. It is as much Luke's, spiritually and physically. Having said that, I t hink when LL reunite, they move out of it, as they let go of the past and move ahead to their future.

Try taking that to court.

colorblind · 11-27-2006, 07:10 PM

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Since I am the she you keep referring to, I will respond. I did not mean to sound snarky in my post. I was trying to point out that the question keeps getting asked, but the answers get ignored. It gets frustrating after a while. The same way that any post not treating Chris like the devil gets either mocked, laughed at, or ignored gets frustrating.

I never said you would make fun of my post later. All I said was that my prior response got ignored. Please don't assume to know "what I meant" by my post.

The funny part is I am not even a huge Chris fan. I just feel like someone needs to stand up for the guy. I don't see him as nearly as horrible as many of the posters here do. Sure, I am enjoying him with Lorelai right now, but it's mostly because Lorelai is happy. Really happy or pretending to be happy, whatever. I am just enjoying the storyline so far this season.

Thanks Ele for your nice, honest post. And also for understanding that my post wasn't intended as snark, but was just showing my frustration.

ok, sorry, i get it wrong. i said she cause i could not remember your name, sarah right?
to me a chris fan is a person who is defending him. i defend luke, and yes, i'm his big fan. just my opinion.

Shu · 11-27-2006, 07:13 PM

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Beautiful post, ele. Too bad that one group of fans cannot show respect to all characters like the rest of the fans can. Perhaps the immaturity they call Chris on should be pointed towards themselves.

SarahLovesLogan · 11-27-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by beautifullauren (View Post)

ok, sorry, i get it wrong. i said she cause i could not remember your name, sarah right?
to me a chris fan is a person who is defending him. i defend luke, and yes, i'm his big fan. just my opinion.

Yes, it's Sarah. No problem. I just didn't want you to think I was being mean, when that wasn't my intention with my post.

colorblind · 11-27-2006, 07:19 PM

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Beautiful post, ele. Too bad that one group of fans cannot show respect to all characters like the rest of the fans can. Perhaps the immaturity they call Chris on should be pointed towards themselves.

is that pointed thoward JJ's? cause i respect all characters except one, and you know who that one is.

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Yes, it's Sarah. No problem. I just didn't want you to think I was being mean, when that wasn't my intention with my post.

it's ok. let's pretend like that post never happened.

**Katiegg108** · 11-27-2006, 07:20 PM

Jet has some promo pics from ep. 10 up on FB. CL with Emily and the party planner.

**perrygraham** · 11-27-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahLovesLogan (View Post)

The funny part is I am not even a huge Chris fan. I just feel like someone needs to stand up for the guy. I don't see him as nearly as horrible as many of the posters here do. Sure, I am enjoying him with Lorelai right now, but it's mostly because Lorelai is happy. Really happy or pretending to be happy, whatever. I am just enjoying the storyline so far this season.

ITA except for the first sentence.

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Thanks Ele for your nice, honest post. And also for understanding that my post wasn't intended as snark, but was just showing my frustration.

You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by lancer1993

I'm hoping for a couple of eps (at least) that Lorelai is on her own, work out her own crap, I don't want her to leave Chris only to jump Luke or even start just dating him, but I want her to want to date him, does that make sense?

Yes. I didn't like the fact that Lorelai jumped into a relationship with Chris without letting herself a break from being into a partnership. That's not healthy but I guess we all did this at least once in our life. I also hope that Lorelai won't jump into a relationship with Luke just because Chris is over and she suddenly feels that Luke is the right man. I mean he can be but it makes Lorelais character so weak IMO. I liked the strong and independent Lorelai from the first seasons but when it comes to men she's acting like a 13 year old girl sometimes. Have a break Lorelai, for your own sake! But I fear she'll rush into another relationship with Luke just because there's not so much time left until the season (or series?) final. But why can't she be without a man anymore. She was it for more than 16 years. Is it because she's almost 40 and her interior voice says her settle down, marry a man, get another child.

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Originally Posted by beautifullauren

to me a chris fan is a person who is defending him. i defend luke, and yes, i'm his big fan. just my opinion.

I agree with you but where's the barrier between being a fan and understanding him in some parts or at least try it. I never thought about that. I would call a person who's really passionate and sometimes not objective in every points a fan. In that case I'm not a Chris fan but I understand or at least try to understand his decisions.

GEORGEIII · 11-27-2006, 07:26 PM

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Wow talk about condescending... What does my being a new mom have to do with my not thinking luke needs therapy. Luke's therapy is April. He's already learning to share his life... This whole sl for him is his version of therapy? He has issues but he's learning to deal with them...Frankly , I take back my therapy comment. No one needs it. Its a big pile of crock invented for people that don't want to communicate with thier families and friends...and who are looking for excuses so as to avoid their issues. I believe Luke is finally dealing with his stuff...as for Lorelai...she's in avoidance land. She thinks Chris will make her happy but Chris nor Luke were ever the source of her unhappiness...it was her unwillingness to see love in herself. and no man can give her that...no Chris, not Luke....no one.

1. Funny thing. I've actually enjoyed the scenes of Luke with April this year. It is particularly surprising for me, since I was one of the BIG haters of the whole turtle/LLD/April/Anna SL last year.

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I'll bring this fact to the attention of my friends from school who became psychotherapists.

Shu · 11-27-2006, 07:27 PM

Hey ele, maybe she smoked some of that pot ...jackson and sookie had at the end of last season

ETA: Am I the only LL fan or GG fan in general that actually likes April?

**Katiegg108** · 11-27-2006, 07:32 PM

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ETA: Am I the only LL fan or GG fan in general that actually likes April?

Nope. I love April. I hated the SL, but I think April was the best thing to come out of the whole mess. She's a great character, great with Luke, etc.

Captain Hawkeye · 11-27-2006, 07:33 PM

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Hey ele, maybe she smoked some of that pot ...jackson and sookie had at the end of last season

ETA: Am I the only LL fan or GG fan in general that actually likes April?

I've always liked April and VM's portrayal of the character.

Ciaobella · 11-27-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by genki (View Post)

Hey ele, maybe she smoked some of that pot ...jackson and sookie had at the end of last season

ETA: Am I the only LL fan or GG fan in general that actually likes April?

Nope, I adore the kid.

carolav · 11-27-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandlynn (View Post)

Luke's brother-in-law put a big hole in Lorelai's house. She could've sued him since she had not hired him to do anything, so they can call it even.

TJ was lucky that Lorelai didn't demand him. of course that Luke had to pay by that!

funny thing, he painted the Chris-Lorelai love's nest!

ETA: I like VM performace, and I think that April is adorable, I just don't like the LLD SL.

wej5541 · 11-27-2006, 07:40 PM

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ETA: Am I the only LL fan or GG fan in general that actually likes April?

I like April too, I just didn't like the storyline she was introduced with last season.

notoutforawalk · 11-27-2006, 07:41 PM

I don't the character of April. The science fair introduction annoyed the piss out of me though.

Nice icon, ele.