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Old 11-21-2006, 08:02 AM
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Hi everyone. I’d like to remind you all that this is the main Gilmore Girls spoiler thread, and as such, posters from various shipper groups are free to post here, so if you see someone saying something that you don’t like about “your” favorite character or couple, don’t start fighting with them on this thread, and don’t go into a Gilmore Girls shipper thread if you don’t like the couple that the shipper thread is for. People are free to criticize upcoming events on Gilmore Girls as they read the upcoming spoilers, but don’t use this thread as a free-for-all to bash any characters or couples that you don’t like, or their fans, or you’ll find that you’ll be deprived of the privilege of reading and speculating about Gilmore Girls spoilers again here. Thanks in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
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Episode 7.08 was pre-empted on KTLA this Tuesday. It will air in the LA area on Saturday, Nov. 25, at 8pm, followed by Veronica Mars at 9pm.


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Episode 7.09 – Knit, People, Knit
Airdate: November 28


Writer: David Grae
Director: Kenny Ortega


TheCW: STARS HOLLOW THROWS A "KNIT-A-THON" — When Christopher (David Sutcliffe) questions Lorelai (Lauren Graham) about why she has avoided involving him in the daily life of Stars Hollow, she admits her concern that her old friends may not accept him. Christopher makes an effort to bond with the townspeople, and Lorelai brings him to the town knit-a-thon, where his well-intentioned gesture brings the event to an early end. When Olivia (Michelle Ongkingo) throws a 2002-themed birthday party for Lucy (Krysten Ritter), Rory (Alexis Bledel) gets her chance to confront Marty about his coldness toward her. Finally, Luke (Scott Patterson) is touched by the birth of Liz (Kathleen Wilhoite) and T.J.’s (Michael DeLuise) baby, and when he learns that Anna (Sherilyn Fenn) is planning to move to New Mexico with April (Vanessa Marano), he demands equal rights as a parent. Liza Weil also stars. Kenny Ortega directed the episode written by David Grae.

TVGuide:Stars Hollow prepares for a knitathon and Lorelai, who's participating, worries that the townsfolk aren't ready to accept her and Christopher as a couple; Anna stuns Luke when she tells him that she and April are moving to New Mexico; Rory and her friends throw Lucy a 2002-themed birthday party, where Rory finally confronts Marty about his indifference toward her; and T.J. tells Luke that Liz, who's ready to give birth at any moment, wants to have the baby at home.
  • From Katie: Miss Patty gives Chris a 'welcome wagon' full of stuff from local businesses. She and Babette are polite, but they are not exactly warm and friendly. Chris thinks it went well, but Lorelai senses the tension and isn't happy. Luke sees them from the diner, and it hurts to see them together.

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Episode 7.10 - Merry Fisticuffs
Airdate: December 5


Writer: David Rosenthal
Director: Jackson Douglas


TheCW: LUKE AND CHRISTOPHER COME TO BLOWS — Luke (Scott Patterson) and Lorelai (Lauren Graham) share a sweet moment when Luke introduces her to Liz’s new baby. Christopher (David Sutcliffe) witnesses the scene and it adds to his concern that Lorelai isn’t fully committed to their marriage. The next day, Lorelai and Christopher get into a fight over whether they should exchange vows at the elaborate wedding party Emily (Kelly Bishop) is throwing for them. Luke contacts a lawyer over his custody troubles with Anna, then runs into Christopher and the two have an ugly confrontation in the streets of Stars Hollow. Meanwhile, when Logan (Matt Czuchry) discovers that Rory and Marty (Wayne Wilcox) have been pretending that they just met, rather than admitting their previous friendship to Lucy (Krysten Ritter), he reveals the truth to Lucy. Finally, Emily gives Lorelai a warning about her marriage. Sean Gunn also stars. Jackson Douglas directed the episode written by David Rosenthal.

TV Guide: Lorelai dreads each day that she meets with her mom and a prominent party planner in anticipation of the upcoming wedding party. Meanwhile, Lorelai and Christopher can't seem to agree on plans for their future, and she usually gets her way; Logan is in town and Rory takes him to the Yale cafeteria, where they run into Marty, and Rory explains the whole awkward reunion she had with Marty and their subsequent deception with Lucy; and Luke decides to talk to a lawyer about April.
  • From Miss_Ill_Manners on the WB Tour: Stars Hollow has christmas decorations up, but there wasn't any snow. The guide said she'd give us a spoiler if we wanted to know, and said they were filming in town later and Luke and Chris get into a fist fight.
  • From LittleCreek on the WB Tour: Filming in front of Doose's. Luke is walking along pushing a pink stroller. He disappeared behind the camera set up, but whatever goes down involves Lorelai and Chris because after a few minutes they walked off in the direction Luke had come from and Lorelai had her arm around Chris. Luke was wearing his green coat and the black hat.
  • imdb lists Krysten Ritter (Lucy) for this ep.
  • From TWOP: The fight between Luke and Chris is a knock-down, drag out fistfight, not just one punch like 7.02.


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Episode 7.11 - Santa's Secret Stuff
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  • From ebay: Call sheet and sides for 2 scenes. Luke's Diner and Lane's Apartment. Lane is very pregnant and is irritable, particularly at the customers.

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  • From Ausiello: This episode marks a major turning point in the Luke/Lorelai/Christopher triangle. Apparently, Luke and Christopher choose to deal with Richard's health crisis in very different ways: Luke chooses to run around helping Emily, while Christopher chooses to go off and sulk about a bad fight he had with Lorelai. Cue the inevitable Lorelai epiphany.



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General Spoilers/Articles
The Gilmore Girls Collected Wisdom From Fan Forum's Finest
  • From gotzdahizzup: Chris is in 4 of the last 9 eps dragging out "the divorce"; Luke loses "the custody trial"?
  • Ausiello’s DR interview: Marty will stir up trouble in Rory’s life, Richard’s “health issues...can bring mothers and daughters close together and it can bring grandparents and grandchildren close together,” L/L: “it’s over for now”.
  • TV Guide: This season Luke and Lorelai go on on 'separate journeys', Rory's attempt to make a go of a long-distance relationship with Logan gets complicated by the return of platonic pal Marty, Emily and Richard take on new endeavors, and there will be multiple babies and a marriage. (Scan)
  • Yale Daily News: Yale's Whiffenpoofs, the all-male, all-senior a cappella group, will be featured in an upcoming episode of the show.
  • Liza Weil: The story lines are really good, and it's really smart, and they can expect a season that is really, really strong.
  • From gilmoregirlsnews.com, quoted on aol: Rory doesn't take kindly to Lorelai sleeping with Christopher, Luke will continue to build his relationship with April and continue trying to gain Anna's trust.
  • Terry Morrow of KnoxNews reports that Matt Czuchry will appear for 15 episodes this season.
  • Ellen Grey - Amanpour thinks it's 'wonderful' that Rory has long wanted to become the next Christiane Amanpour.
  • Charleston.net: "Fans reacted virulently when Lorelai, distraught over the seeming end of her engagement, retreated to the arms (and bed) of daughter Rory's father, who is married to someone else."
  • From GGMinn: Rory will have no new love interest. New friends, yes, but not love interest.
  • Matt Czuchry interview: My hope is that the audience will get to see Logan take on his adult responsibilities and thrive in the business world ... A deeper friendship could develop [with] Rory ... that would survive even if the relationship becomes too difficult.
  • hellishrose describes private WB tour in April – guide said “Chris was brought back on to not only stir up drama but also so that LG would get to work with someone else besides SP”
  • Ausiello interviews Lauren Graham: "I had a nice meeting with [David Rosenthal] ... I think I'll know more than I might normally have."


Information from the TCA - July 2006
  • Pictures from the TCA
  • Gail Pennington's STL blog added an audio clip of LG’s “good drama” comments
  • InsideBayArea: LG says she has no power over storylines
  • Watch with Kristin:
    - video interview with MC - he’d like Rory to end the show single
    - DR says C and L “are eternally tied through Rory”
    - RM says “perhaps more than one baby for SH”
    - Kristin on babies
  • Beacon Journal: Kirk is at the center of an exciting disaster
  • Gimoregirls.org: Exclusive Video of LG
  • STLtoday: Lauren "can't believe people were upset" and mentions a fake ending.
  • KnoxNews: Matt takes a bet to climb up on the giant "CW" letters at party.
  • Buffalo News: "In the real world, those things happen for a reason and people rebound from them," said Patterson. "It is really a precarious position to be in. I think he'll have to do some soul searching to work his way out of this one. It is not checkmate, but it may be check."
  • FROM NJ.COM BLOG:INTERVIEW WITH DR
    - Lorelai "wasn't drunk, it wasn't this mad, crazy thing -- she made a decision about where she wanted her life to go, and we're going to explore that. Not to say that Luke isn't in her life and a part of her world."
    - "Lane and Zach got married, married life is going to bring a lot of challenges and surprises for them. Richard's going to get a job teaching at Yale, an opportunity to fill in kind of thing. Emily's going to do a little tutoring of young debutantes. Paris will spend the summer opening up her own version of the Princeton Review, tutoring students."
  • From the DR interview: LL won't be similar to Rory rift. "I’m not saying it’s always going to be pleasant or pretty, I mean, they’re two adults and they’re going to have to deal with what’s happening.” (Maureen Ryan, Chicago Tribune)
  • DR says "There will be a baby or babies." Note: could be Liz's. (Seattle Times)
  • LG says DR may bend ASP's exhausting "word-perfect" script rules (Canoe-Jam!) - and more
  • Ausiello's interview with DR:
    - Repercussions from the finale “affect not just Lorelai and Christopher and Luke, but Rory as well.”
    - R/L “are very much in love and will work hard to make [the long-distance relationship] work. ... There will be people in her life, male and female. Perhaps the return of characters from past seasons.”
    - L/L “have a very, very deep bond. ... But sometimes soul mates spend a lot of time not together. Just because someone's your soul mate and may be your ultimate destiny, does not mean that there's not a lot to go through before you reach that destiny.”
    - Luke "will have issues this year in terms of his deepening relationship with April and his relationship with Anna."
    - Christopher and Lorelai - "he's a major part of her life this year."
    - Finale - confirmed C&L did have sex.
  • From Ausiello's live blog of the TCA Gilmore Girls Panel (or here)
    - Logan will stay in London
    - A line about "new love interests for Rory" was later deleted by Ausiello without explanation.
    - Marty "will perhaps be back"
    - Christopher will be a bigger presence than ever before.
    - "It sounds like" LL will be broken up, at least during the first part of the season.
    - LG and KAB both "leave door open" to possible season 8.
  • LG and KAB "hedge on GG future", LG says "if everything had gone the way fans wanted" last year, "the show would have been over"
  • At TCA morning session - Ostroff says she "wasn't involved" in Team Palladino talks


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(I'm already here without being formally invited yet, but I checked to make sure that the three first posts were in place. )
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Thanks for the thread, Caf.

I hope something happens to make Marty "more grown up", because right now, I totally disagree. He is acting juvenile.
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Thanks for the new thread, caf and the article, gjoni. I'm reposting something I put near the end of the last thread, I'm sure everyone will be thrilled!:
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I think the difference some people are talking about and correct me if I'm misinterpreting what you mean, but I think that they mean that when Rory is in Logan's presence. Not just when she is in a relationship with him. It's when he's around that people feel that she acts differently.
Well could not the same be said of Luke? Who had given up hunting, fishing and camping as his preferred hobbies and took up shopping for women's clothes?
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I would love to see him spend the day with Rory in SH. Going to Doose's, Lukes, BWR, Al's, meeting Kirk and having a strange encounter, being hit on by Miss Patty and Babette, be given a lecture by Taylor. That would be the perfect Stars Hollow day. Oh and even better if there is sort of strange festival going on. That is what I mean by going to Stars Hollow.
I would love to see all of those. However, I don't think Logan does or doesn't know Rory because he has or hasn't been to a festival or Luke's for coffee. Luke doesn't like festivals. What true impact does Kirk have on Rory's life, outside being an object for mocking? The only townie IMO that has had a real day to day impact on Rory's life is possibly Babette. Outside that Sookie & Luke are the only townspeople with a true relationship with her. He met and spent a weekend with Luke.

All those other people he could go to a single festival or Luke's and get the full effect and never have to come back. Yes, these are people that care about Rory, and who looked after her, but most did not have a massive day-to-day impact on her life. That's Lorelai's life. Just like Luke didn't have to do more than spend a day with Richard or evening with Emily or Richard & Emily to see where Lorelai came from. In the end that is their life, the one they chose, not the one Lorelai did. Getting to know that side of Lorelai is the same as Logan getting to know that side of Rory, it's about where she came from, not necessairly where she's going or who she's choosing to be as a person. Those are Lorelai's choices. Or in the case of Emily & Richard, the life she rejected.

I would love to see him in Stars Hollow, once. Because it would be funny. But I don't think he does or doesn't know Rory because he hasn't done the full Stars Hollow. Paris has done it several times, and still can't stand it. I'm sure Logan would enjoy himself much more.
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He doesn't socialize with Paris (who he can't stand) and says so quite often. She lived and or worked with Paris during that time. Rory never went to that bar without Logan.
She went to the pub, which is the same set and therefore, I think, supposed to be the same place, with Marty, and I believe with Paris. If Logan can't stand Paris, then it can be turned around to say that Paris can't stand Logan. I think, both have come to accept that the other is important to Rory and therefore have reached a level of accomidation and tollerance with one another, for her. And he hasn't said that he can't stand Paris quite often, you're puttting words in his mouth.
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On her own when Logan is not around yes she is a force, she is a hard working determined person, who is respected by her peers. When he is with her, her force is diminshed greatly and his takes over. She became editor because she saved the paper, which wouldn't have happened if Logan didn't show up and use his name to get things done. And I suppose you are going to call it teamwork, except at the end of the day it was Logan's name and persuasive powers that really saved the paper.
So Rory's ingenuity in getting all those people back to the paper that had quit, getting them organized and motivated, Logan included, didn't count? The only thing Logan did was make sure all of those people's work, and Rory's efforts, didn't go for naught. Before that he was pitching in just like everyone else, not being a Huntzberger, just a regular staffer. Should he have, since this would have meant he didn't usurp Rory, let the paper lose it's spot in the queue? Which would have proved what? The only reason Logan was able to use his name, something that's clearly shown he didn't really want to do, was because of Rory's effort and ingenuity. Without Rory there would have been no reason to do what he did, because there would have been no paper. That's called teamwork. Which is what they displayed that night. Logan, like everyone, did what he could, including basic data entry. It's not his fault his name can stop the presses. And yet you want to dismiss all the hard work, effort and organization that got them to the point where he would even have to make the choice he did.
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I am not in any way blaming Logan for this, I am not even blaming Rory it is just the way things are. She does what ever he wants - she didn't go to London, why because he didn't want her there till Christmas. She didn't even mention what she wanted to do, so how could he know. Rory has to figure out what she wants to be, what she wants to do and I'm sure Logan will be her cheerleader, but she has to make these life choices on her own first.
You say you don't blame Logan, and yet right there you blame him for something he knew nothing about. The way I see it, Logan's damned if he does, asking Rory to move in with him, since it's not a place they found together, having her hang out with his friends, etc., damned if he doesn't, instead of going to Stars Hollow to have Luke pour coffee and serve him instead tried to get to know Luke as a real person.
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Obviously you do not understand what I am saying.
I get exactly what you're saying. You think Logan's some sort of svengali that's turned Rory into a totally different person to suit his needs in life. That he somehow wants her to be his mother or Emily, when nothing of the sort has been shown. Cutting her off from the *true Rory*.

And yet you don't think the same with regard to Luke, who suddenly discovered a love of shopping for women's clothes. Became *friends* with someone that clearly annoys him, Jackson. Spends couple time with Sookie and Jackson, because it's what Lorelai wants, instead of with his sister and her husband. Did Lorelai really made an attempt to get to know Liz or TJ? Did she made any effort to learn if she might enjoy camping?

Rory & Logan's life since moving in together has been shown to be a slower, quieter one than the one they were living together while at the pool house. Rory's impact on Logan has been just as strong, he's calmed down, chooses things like weekend's in the Vineyard over a blowout party, made the decision to grow up and leave his childish ways behind, become a one woman man. All of those things, and more, are because Rory is a part of Logan's life. And yet, no one is advocating Logan go back to his playboy ways, which since that's who he was when introduced, would seem to be the true Logan. No one is saying those choices are less valid because they wouldn't have been made without her influence. Rory & Logan are building a life, some parts him, some parts her, some parts them. None of those parts are invalid.

There's one right thing you said, Rory needs to figure out what she wants in life, and that Logan would be her cheerleader, that's very true. What Stars Hollow, his friends, her friends, his life, her life, etc., have to do with that, I have no clue.
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I just happen to be a strong, professional female in a twentyfive year long relationship who just happens to be more Lorelai's age and period in her reproductive lifespan.

We sympathize with what we identify with most.
I happen to be a single, professional female about a year and a half younger than Lorelai. And yet...

Lorelai's choices have led her to where she's ended up. She's known Luke for a decade. He's been in love with her that entire time. Had she had any desire to really let love into her life she could have been with Luke at a much younger age. That her biological clock is beginning to clang is a product of that choice. Not really even the Luke v Chris one. It's because Lorelai cut herself from building a life with someone she's now in this massive hurry.

THAT is the real choice Lorelai made along the way.
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I hope something happens to make Marty "more grown up", because right now, I totally disagree. He is acting juvenile.
Well, WW did say Marty was "kind of" grown up. When you're only "kind of" grown up you can still lie to your girlfriend about knowing one of her friends from before. When you're truly "grown up", then you might simply forget about old acquaintances - blame aging memory.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:37 AM
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Well could not the same be said of Luke? Who had given up hunting, fishing and camping as his preferred hobbies and took up shopping for women's clothes?
Now, now, we don't really know that Luke doesn't like to shop for women's clothes. He seems oddly obsessed with cat patterns. And did you see him camping?! I only remember seeing him camping once, when Lorelai forced him, and he looked very uncomfortable. Maybe in the past, he was actually shopping for dresses with cats on them and just said he was camping.

Come to think of it, the way many of the TV critics seem to care more about Lorelai and Luke and not about Rory at all. Perhaps Luke *IS* the other Gilmore Girl.

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She went to the pub, which is the same set and therefore, I think, supposed to be the same place, with Marty, and I believe with Paris. If Logan can't stand Paris, then it can be turned around to say that Paris can't stand Logan. I think, both have come to accept that the other is important to Rory and therefore have reached a level of accomidation and tollerance with one another, for her. And he hasn't said that he can't stand Paris quite often, you're puttting words in his mouth.
Actually, Marty couldn't stand Paris either, and was much more vocal about it. That's why I would love, love, love to have Paris meet up with him during this whole charades game they're playing. In fact, it would be funny because Marty's girlfriend actually likes Paris. It makes me wonder if Lucy's mentioned that to Marty, and whether Marty pretended not to know Paris either.

As for going to the pub….
Rory went to the pub with Marty and Anna. She was also there with her mother, I believe. She stopped by there and ran into the YDN news staff and stayed to have a meal with them. She went there to drown her sorrows and ran into Doyle…. She's been there a number of times without Logan. I think it's just the Yale watering hole she prefers. They needed to have someplace -- like a Luke's -- for the Yale crowd to hang out and interact during their scenes. They can't just hang out in the quad.

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Well, WW did say Marty was "kind of" grown up.
Maybe the grown up part is that he actually has a girlfriend.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:39 AM
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Great post, and so true, lemon tart.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:44 AM
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Thanks for the thread Caf!
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:46 AM
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Actually, Marty couldn't stand Paris either, and was much more vocal about it. That's why I would love, love, love to have Paris meet up with him during this whole charades game they're playing. In fact, it would be funny because Marty's girlfriend actually likes Paris. It makes me wonder if Lucy's mentioned that to Marty, and whether Marty pretended not to know Paris either.
That would make for a rather interesting scene - to have Paris there during this debacle.
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That would make for a rather interesting scene - to have Paris there during this debacle.
Paris would have outed Marty before Logan even had a chance to.
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Oh, btw, I would much rather see Rory & Logan and Lane & Zack out at dinner or having dinner at Rory & Logan's place or Lane & Zack's than I would Logan at a festival. To me that's much more important in the grand scheme of things as far as Rory's life than any of the other things mentioned in regard to Logan & Stars Hollow. Because Rory's continued friendship with Lane is Rory's choice. It's a relationship with true meaning in Rory's life.

That's a scene I would like.
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Paris would have outed Marty before Logan even had a chance to.
But, that's ok. Because it's not Logan.
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Thanks for the new thread, caf and the article, gjoni. I'm reposting something I put near the end of the last thread, I'm sure everyone will be thrilled!:

Well could not the same be said of Luke? Who had given up hunting, fishing and camping as his preferred hobbies and took up shopping for women's clothes?

I would love to see all of those. However, I don't think Logan does or doesn't know Rory because he has or hasn't been to a festival or Luke's for coffee. Luke doesn't like festivals. What true impact does Kirk have on Rory's life, outside being an object for mocking? The only townie IMO that has had a real day to day impact on Rory's life is possibly Babette. Outside that Sookie & Luke are the only townspeople with a true relationship with her. He met and spent a weekend with Luke.

All those other people he could go to a single festival or Luke's and get the full effect and never have to come back. Yes, these are people that care about Rory, and who looked after her, but most did not have a massive day-to-day impact on her life. That's Lorelai's life. Just like Luke didn't have to do more than spend a day with Richard or evening with Emily or Richard & Emily to see where Lorelai came from. In the end that is their life, the one they chose, not the one Lorelai did. Getting to know that side of Lorelai is the same as Logan getting to know that side of Rory, it's about where she came from, not necessairly where she's going or who she's choosing to be as a person. Those are Lorelai's choices. Or in the case of Emily & Richard, the life she rejected.

I would love to see him in Stars Hollow, once. Because it would be funny. But I don't think he does or doesn't know Rory because he hasn't done the full Stars Hollow. Paris has done it several times, and still can't stand it. I'm sure Logan would enjoy himself much more.
I think that Lorelai should have done things with Luke that he liked. I'm not denying that and I never have. I wasn't talking about them though. I was just talking about how I wouild like to see Rory bring Logan to Stars Hollow sometime. It would funny. I don't get your point about Paris not liking it. That isn't the point. He doesn't have to love it and be all enthralled with it, although I think he would be amused by it. I would just like to see him experience it. There is a difference.

And on the other topic discussed in this post, I don't think that Rory just becomes this mindless girl when she's around Logan, but I can see some people's point that she does get overpowered by Logan in a sense. Some of that may just be that MC overpowers AB in their acting so that their characters come off that way. But I don't think that it is completely off that we saw Rory sort of get lost in Logan's world. I think that we are seeing her more on her own this year and even though she is feeling lost and not knowing what to do with her life after graduation, she has seemed much stronger to me this season and I have enjoyed her character more than I have in a long time.

ETA: Doh! I forgot the say thanks for the new thread. Thanks!
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