Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #175 ~ Let's Hug It Out Shippers - Page 9

Cappuccino · 03-07-2007, 01:48 PM

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And by the way: Emily's comment on Rory being the heartbreaker btw her and Logan sounded like a HUGE anvil to me. I too think she would be the one breakin' up with Logan.

You bet

Thanks for the thread and the spoilers and everything.

Liked the episode

fox24 · 03-07-2007, 01:48 PM

Just because the writers are idiots to not give Logan seperate time away from Rory, for an example last night was a good time to show Logan standing up to Mitchum. Doesn't mean Logan's not a complex character and deep character that the audience wants to see on the show. I've never viewed Logan as just Rory's boyfriend

elduccia · 03-07-2007, 01:48 PM

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I think this was a reference to Lorelai and Rory's relationship, not Rory and Logan's. Remember Emily was the one who made this statement and the episode was all about mothers and daughters and *their* inevitable breakups.

She was talking to Mia and they were both staring at Logan and Rory sittin' on Logan's car and chattin'. And Mia made a comment on the fact she couldn't believe that Rory was old enough to have a boyfriend.
Then Mia said "I just don't want her to be heartbroken" and Emily said "if there's a heartbreaker that is Rory". Mia goes all "really?" and Emily add "Oh yeah, she's so self confident".

So to me they were really talking about Rory and Logan and to me it meant that, in a break up situation Rory would be the one taking the decision.

Not that I, in any way, want the R/L break up to happen.

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Doesn't mean Logan's not a complex character and deep character that the audience wants to see on the show.

I'd never, not in a million year, say that nore I ment that with my comment. He has, in fact, become a lot more than Rory's boyfriend. Unlikely Dean, who only existed as Rory's boyfriend, or Jess - whom's scenes with Luke were the first attempt to make him a character of his own - he does have a great personality.
I truly like him and I loved how he entered the show and I WANT him to stay in the show.
This being said, I don't think his character is ready to have his own scene separated from Rory now.
The fact that he left his family business is, to me, a big sign that they are planning to have him growing a lot, in a hypothetical 8th season. At that point I could see him having scenes of his own.

blaab · 03-07-2007, 01:59 PM

I do get what you are saying Elduccia, but I also feel for Emily all was in the mindset of this mother-daughter thing. In that scene you also see Lorelai being touched about what Emily said about Rory and I guess also realising even more that Rory will go outthere in the world (she has all the confidence and all, the education and all these papers will want her etc.), she WILL leave and yeah it will hurt. The heartbreak for Lorelai which she later on also referred too herself ... or well that is what I am thinking after reading Sandlynn's post ...

elduccia · 03-07-2007, 02:03 PM

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I do get what you are saying Elduccia, but I also feel for Emily all was in the mindset of this mother-daughter thing. In that scene you also see Lorelai being touched about what Emily said about Rory and I guess also realising even more that Rory will go outthere in the world (she has all the confidence and all, the education and all these papers will want her etc.), she WILL leave and yeah it will hurt. The heartbreak for Lorelai which she later on also referred too herself ... or well that is what I am thinking after reading Sandlynn's post ...

I guess that could be right too. I still think about the RL breakup anvil not because I like it but because, so far, DR hasn't been exactly subtle

And I love your sig. I loved that comment from Emily about the twins

It was so in character

Man the ep was soo great.

Tara Ashley · 03-07-2007, 02:05 PM

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I do get what you are saying Elduccia, but I also feel for Emily all was in the mindset of this mother-daughter thing. In that scene you also see Lorelai being touched about what Emily said about Rory and I guess also realising even more that Rory will go outthere in the world (she has all the confidence and all, the education and all these papers will want her etc.), she WILL leave and yeah it will hurt. The heartbreak for Lorelai which she later on also referred too herself ... or well that is what I am thinking after reading Sandlynn's post ...

Hmm I didn't get this, but at the same time, I didn't see the remark as an RL breakup anvil either. I guess I just saw it as Emily admiring Rory's maturity - in a one-dimensional sense.

Sandlynn · 03-07-2007, 02:07 PM

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I guess that could be right too. I still think about the RL breakup anvil not because I like it but because, so far, DR hasn't been exactly subtle

And I love your sig. I loved that comment from Emily about the twins

It was so in character

Man the ep was soo great.

Emily said generally, Rory would be a heartbreaker. Now, who broke Emily's heart?

Jasper1975 · 03-07-2007, 02:09 PM

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I do get what you are saying Elduccia, but I also feel for Emily all was in the mindset of this mother-daughter thing. In that scene you also see Lorelai being touched about what Emily said about Rory and I guess also realising even more that Rory will go outthere in the world (she has all the confidence and all, the education and all these papers will want her etc.), she WILL leave and yeah it will hurt. The heartbreak for Lorelai which she later on also referred too herself ... or well that is what I am thinking after reading Sandlynn's post ...

It can be both. I also got the impression Emily was referring to Logan and Rory since she knows Rory has been having difficulties with Logan lately. Maybe not the exact details. That if they were to breakup, it would be Rory who did it.

But it can also be about Lorelai. Rory being a heart-breaker in terms of accepting a job whereever, and breaking Lorelai's heart to see her daughter take that final step and move away from the state. Assuming Rory were to take a job out of state.

By referring to the fact that Rory is so confident. I think that speaks doom for her and Logan who are back to bickering and having relationship issues.

But time will tell!

fox24 · 03-07-2007, 02:13 PM

You know what I find sad, is that if R/L break up,not alot of people are going to care how Logan's is going to feel. I mean the poor guy is going to lose a girl that he loves so much and did so much for in the almost three years. they were together I mean he is losing his only serious relationship if the break up happens

elduccia · 03-07-2007, 02:17 PM

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It can be both. I also got the impression Emily was referring to Logan and Rory since she knows Rory has been having difficulties with Logan lately. Maybe not the exact details. That if they were to breakup, it would be Rory who did it.

Exactly. IF.

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But it can also be about Lorelai. Rory being a heart-breaker in terms of accepting a job whereever, and breaking Lorelai's heart to see her daughter take that final step and move away from the state. Assuming Rory were to take a job out of state.

This would fit also.

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By referring to the fact that Rory is so confident. I think that speaks doom for her and Logan who are back to bickering and having relationship issues.

Not necessarily doom. But the R/L break up got confirmed and Emily made the comment and DR is not subtle.

I'm curious though: since Rory loves Logan and would NEVER break up with him just because he's lost money or he needs time to find his own path in life and since we'll see Logan at the hay maze in the next episode I cannot see a single reason for those 2 to break up.

blaab · 03-07-2007, 02:22 PM

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It can be both. I also got the impression Emily was referring to Logan and Rory since she knows Rory has been having difficulties with Logan lately. Maybe not the exact details. That if they were to breakup, it would be Rory who did it.

But it can also be about Lorelai. Rory being a heart-breaker in terms of accepting a job whereever, and breaking Lorelai's heart to see her daughter take that final step and move away from the state. Assuming Rory were to take a job out of state.

By referring to the fact that Rory is so confident. I think that speaks doom for her and Logan who are back to bickering and having relationship issues.

But time will tell!

Okee, let's take a combo

The heartbreaker was about Lorelai and Rory and Lorelai finally acknowleding the hurt of Emily. Opening up this relationship ...

The confidence was also about Rory and Logan ... and Rory showed confidence, she showed she would speak up about what bothered her. And look at what happened ... Logan realised what he was doing. She was right, isn't that what he told her and he acted on that. Unlike Luke who didn't have a clue what was going on with Lorelai and therefor did not act, well he did, but too late for Lorelai. I like parallels ...

Was there bickering? I didn't see it like that. I saw Logan wallowing for a reason I understand, but there should be a limit to staying in wallow-mode. And in situations like that the best support from those who love you is them being honest and telling you to snap out of it. And Rory did just that. She spoke her mind and saying well I am out of here and doing her own thing, not staying stuck in this Issue and getting all frustrated. This did not go on and on and on ... because she spoke up and this opened Logans eyes and he faced himself and faced her. And he ended up doing what felt right for himself also, because in a way she supported him in the best way possible. She faced him and told him exactly what he was doing! So I feel this is a good thing. This is what you do in a relationship ... she gave him some time to blow off steam, but at a certain point you need to move on and well he needed an eye-opener. I would have felt doom if she wouldn't have spoken up ...

And well, Rory ended up being proud!

Yeah Elduccia, I loved that line by Emily, totally cracked me up ... and I agree in character!

fox24 · 03-07-2007, 02:22 PM

The break up spoiler did not get confirmed.

elduccia · 03-07-2007, 02:29 PM

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The break up spoiler did not get confirmed.

Unfortunately it did. Just on page 4 of this very thread:

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I know I never confirm anything and never bring any spoilers, cause honestly you guys scare me half to death most of the times and I don't like being attacked, but I asked my "source" yesterday and I was also told that it is planned to make Rory and Logan break up. Ah and by the way, my source isn't Kasia (Fojbe) or the person she knows it from.

notoutforawalk · 03-07-2007, 02:31 PM

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I think this was a reference to Lorelai and Rory's relationship, not Rory and Logan's. Remember Emily was the one who made this statement and the episode was all about mothers and daughters and *their* inevitable breakups.

Great point. I hadn't even thought about that.

Captain Hawkeye · 03-07-2007, 02:36 PM

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Emily said generally, Rory would be a heartbreaker. Now, who broke Emily's heart?

More importantly--and unsubtly--they cut to a shot of Lorelai during this convo.

ETA: If you check we now have multiple "confirmed" spoilers each way on the RL break up. Gossipcom confirmed Tue pm RL aren't breaking up. It just wasn't been added to the first post