Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #175 ~ Let's Hug It Out Shippers - Page 10

fox24 · 03-07-2007, 02:39 PM

Aparrently yes, and the spoiler if they broke or not is divided their is mixed information from both sides.

Jasper1975 · 03-07-2007, 02:41 PM

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Okee, let's take a combo

The heartbreaker was about Lorelai and Rory and Lorelai finally acknowleding the hurt of Emily. Opening up this relationship ...

The confidence was also about Rory and Logan ... and Rory showed confidence, she showed she would speak up about what bothered her. And look at what happened ... Logan realised what he was doing. She was right, isn't that what he told her and he acted on that. Unlike Luke who didn't have a clue what was going on with Lorelai and therefor did not act, well he did, but too late for Lorelai.

Was there bickering? I didn't see it like that. I saw Logan wallowing for a reason I understand. And in situations like that the best support from those who love you is them being honest and telling what they are doing. And Rory did just that. She spoke her mind and saying well I am out of here and doing her own thing, not staying stuck in this Issue and getting all frustrated. This did not go on and on and on ... because she spoke up and this opened Logans eyes and he faced himself and faced her. And he ended up doing what felt right for himself also, because in a way she supported him in the best way possible. She faced him and told him exactly what he was doing! So I feel this is a good thing. This is what you do in a relationship ... she gave him some time to blow off steam, but at a certain point you need to move on and well he needed an eye-opener.

And well, Rory was proud!

Yeah Elduccia, I loved that line by Emily ... and I agree totally in character!

There was bickering to some extent. Last episode. And Rory blowing off steam about the fact Logan just went off to Vegas on a whim. Now he had a reason to be wallowing. And they did patch things up.

But it sets up a pattern, that they are having difficulties. Whether Rory supports what he's doing or not, right now or not. So if they do have problems coming up, it sets a pattern. The fact that Rory isn't just taking him flying off to Vegas and coming to sweet talk her after a fight.

She fighting back. Being confident. Unlike Lorelai last year who wasn't speaking back to Luke as they were having difficulties. Rory is speaking back to Logan.

Not taking it. Bottling it in until it explodes.

I think the fact Logan has now quit his job and is going into the unknown. Which is so different from the path she and Logan were on. There will be bound to be difficulties.

I don't know how they breakup, if they do. But it's no coincidence that they are starting to have problems again after Logan was such a rock during Richard's health scare.

But it wasn't an ordinary comment that Emily made about Rory being the heart-breaker. It has to mean something in the long-term of it. It might not only be about Logan and Rory. It could be about the mother/daughter bond that Lorelai and Rory have. Which is so non-typical. Mother/daughter best friends. A situation that will mirror what happened with Emily and Lorelai. Lorelai was confident enough to break off at such an early age and make a life for herself and her baby. Breaking Richard and Emily's heart.

And now she sees it in Rory as Rory approaches graduation.

pimbolina · 03-07-2007, 02:41 PM

I love this ep. So many good things.
The only thing that bothered me was Lorelai thinking that Emily saw her as embarrassment, that was never the case, Lorelai left because she thought Emily was too controlling and she wanted a “better life” for Rory. Bad enough, so what was the point in this? It was never said or indicated that Lorelai was an embarrassment to Emily.

Otherwise it was great.
The beginning with Lorelai/Emily/Richard. Love the “mother” comment and reaction. The car scene was priceless too. But the best thing was the last part. It was so sad seeing Emily standing at the door and not knowing what to say until Lorelai made an effort to talk to her. At least trying to understand her mother for once. And then watching the film together and teasing Emily about Will Smith (Emily has good taste) so great. Want more of this.
Hopefully the rumours about season 8 are true.

I love the Luke/Zach scenes too. Can’t wait to see the babies and what names they got.

And Logan being proud of himself when he stood up against Mitchum, reminds me once again of Richard, when he quit his job. And it’s good that it seems that Rory and Logan are more equal now in their relationship. Rory isn’t so easy to impress anymore, that’s good.

owtpalready · 03-07-2007, 02:42 PM

Rather off subject, but I'm going to Califronia in three weeks and I want to take a tour of the set. Has anybody done that and how would I go about finding tickets or whatever I need? I would love some help.

elduccia · 03-07-2007, 02:48 PM

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More importantly--and unsubtly--they cut to a shot of Lorelai during this convo.

ETA: If you check we now have multiple "confirmed" spoilers each way on the RL break up. Gossipcom confirmed Tue pm RL aren't breaking up. It just wasn't been added to the first post

I had forgotten about what Nadine said.
Thanks for reminding us. I guess they - the writers - are spreading all kinda news so that we are going to be surprised.

Spikette · 03-07-2007, 02:48 PM

I personally liked to see Rory finally have the upper hand in her relationship with Logan.

I still think that Logan handled the business situation incorrectly and I am unclear as to why Mitchum is the bad guy in this instance. Logan didn't research his business deal enough and it came back to haunt him. I don't think that Mitchum's reaction to the situation was inappropriate. I understand that for Logan quitting was standing up to his dad, but the situation was made to seem as though he quit because his dad did something wrong to him. Did I miss something?

lancer1993 · 03-07-2007, 02:49 PM

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Rather off subject, but I'm going to Califronia in three weeks and I want to take a tour of the set. Has anybody done that and how would I go about finding tickets or whatever I need? I would love some help.

Good to hear, get plenty of spoilers and pictures as that will be around ep 21 or 22.

BTW - there is a website, can someone else post that link please.

catkirk7 · 03-07-2007, 02:54 PM

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I personally liked to see Rory finally have the upper hand in her relationship with Logan.

I still think that Logan handled the business situation incorrectly and I am unclear as to why Mitchum is the bad guy in this instance. Logan didn't research his business deal enough and it came back to haunt him. I don't think that Mitchum's reaction to the situation was inappropriate. I understand that for Logan quitting was standing up to his dad, but the situation was made to seem as though he quit because his dad did something wrong to him. Did I miss something?

To me he was quitting because he didn't want to be in a job where he could do what he did and not get fired. He said that his dad should have fired him and that was part of his problem. I don't think he said necessarily that Mitchum did something wrong, more that it wasn't a good place for him to be working.

Spikette · 03-07-2007, 03:01 PM

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To me he was quitting because he didn't want to be in a job where he could do what he did and not get fired. He said that his dad should have fired him and that was part of his problem. I don't think he said necessarily that Mitchum did something wrong, more that it wasn't a good place for him to be working.

Okay...I am going to have to go back and watch the scene again to listen to what Logan says again. It makes more sense now.

blaab · 03-07-2007, 03:05 PM

Sandra, I totally agree with all the good things that you saw in this ep. I am still all

about that last scene especially! But I can imagine from feeling controlled and especially in a way where social rules were so important, the feeling of also being an embarresment to the person you are not 'obeying' go hand in hand. Both Lorelai and Emily I felt had this mask to hide how they were really feeling so the other couldn't hurt them even more ... part of that I feel was Lorelai never admitting before how she felt she embarrassed her mom, disappointed her, couldn't be who Emily wanted her to be. And well that is what most kids DO actually want, no matter how rebelling they on the surface behave. And we had Emily never admitting to Lorelai how she was hurt by her leaving. Both putting up this front, that we did on some rare occasions saw being put down ...

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To me he was quitting because he didn't want to be in a job where he could do what he did and not get fired. He said that his dad should have fired him and that was part of his problem. I don't think he said necessarily that Mitchum did something wrong, more that it wasn't a good place for him to be working.

same here ...

Okee, off to get some sleep!

elduccia · 03-07-2007, 03:07 PM

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I personally liked to see Rory finally have the upper hand in her relationship with Logan.

I still think that Logan handled the business situation incorrectly and I am unclear as to why Mitchum is the bad guy in this instance. Logan didn't research his business deal enough and it came back to haunt him. I don't think that Mitchum's reaction to the situation was inappropriate. I understand that for Logan quitting was standing up to his dad, but the situation was made to seem as though he quit because his dad did something wrong to him. Did I miss something?

First Spikette: I love your sig. I love that song, expecially Beck's version. Well I loved the Eternal Sunshine movie as a whole

I loved Rory being on the upper hand too. I was impressed at Rory last nite.
I've always admired her, but now she's a completely blossomed woman.

As for Logan: I think he decided to quit his job because it wasn't the right thing for him. He was good at it - well not that good since he missed to do thorough research about his project or maybe he was just unlucky - but it wasn't what he wanted to do.
He just responed to what his family wanted him to do. I actually think he doesn't even know what he would like to do.
So no, I don't think he left because of what Mitchum said was wrong. But because what Mitchum said rang a bell in his head and pushed him to the right direction: his indipendence.

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Okee, off to get some sleep!

Same here!

Night all

lancer1993 · 03-07-2007, 03:13 PM

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The debut of The CW’s Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search for the Next Doll lifted the 9 p.m. hour to an improved 3.90 million viewers and a 1.7/ 4 among adults 18-49, with retention out of lead-in Gilmore Girls (Viewers: #5, 4.44 million; A18-49: #4, 2.0/ 5) of a solid 88 percent in total viewers and 85 percent in the demo. Pussycat Dolls delivered The CW’s best performance to-date in the Tuesday 9 p.m. hour in the two aforementioned categories, plus adults 18-34 (2.0/ 6 – tie), women 18-34 (3.1/ 8), women 18-49 (2.4/ 5), teens (2.7/ 8) and female teens (4.3/13), with growth out of Gilmore Girls of 29 percent and 26 percent, respectively, in the two teen demos. Pussycat Dolls also built from recent occupant Veronica Mars by double-digit across-the-board percentages. Combined with Gilmore Girls, The CW scored its highest rated Tuesday in women 18-34 (3.4/ 9), with a second-place finish from 8-10 p.m. among adults 18-34 (2.2/ 6), women 18-34, women 18-49 (2.6/ 6), teens (2.4/ 7) and female teens (3.9/11). You have to hand it to PH – the man does his job!

But the big news is how well TPD did compared to VM, not so good for VM's future.

Mag13 · 03-07-2007, 03:15 PM

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ETA: If you check we now have multiple "confirmed" spoilers each way on the RL break up. Gossipcom confirmed Tue pm RL aren't breaking up. It just wasn't been added to the first post

You can choose, what you want. And wait. And then see what you didn't want to watch!

catkirk7 · 03-07-2007, 03:17 PM

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As for Logan: I think he decided to quit his job because it wasn't the right thing for him. He was good at it - well not that good since he missed to do thorough research about his project or maybe he was just unlucky - but it wasn't what he wanted to do.
He just responed to what his family wanted him to do. I actually think he doesn't even know what he would like to do.
So no, I don't think he left because of what Mitchum said was wrong. But because what Mitchum said rang a bell in his head and pushed him to the right direction: his indipendence.

Actually the person that failed to do the proper research was his patent attorney. And I could easily see Logan doing something in new media somewhere not working for the Huntzberger family. It was pretty clear all season that he loved what he was doing. I could see him setting off on his own, getting a job somewhere else (this isn't fic, Mitchum isn't going to block him from working in media) and coming back to the Huntzbergers when he's ready. Mitchum's "dark years" and the "glint of pride in his eyes" suggest that Logan would be able to do this.

notoutforawalk · 03-07-2007, 03:17 PM

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Rather off subject, but I'm going to Califronia in three weeks and I want to take a tour of the set. Has anybody done that and how would I go about finding tickets or whatever I need? I would love some help.

You should have a PM.