Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #158 ~ Emily in a motel? But, seriously, folks - Page 13

lancer1993 · 02-11-2007, 05:47 PM

2ggObsessed thanks for that, can't wait to see it but this is really pissing me off, how will DSR get L&L back if she is so hung up on choosing Chris and wanting to want him???

Spikette · 02-11-2007, 05:49 PM

Thank you for the promo 2gg! Oh my goodness.................!

MissMarie01 · 02-11-2007, 05:57 PM

Thanks for the promo 2gg. I'm really curious to see how this whole episodes plays out. Hurry up Tuesday.

Tara Ashley · 02-11-2007, 06:05 PM

Thanks 2gg!

lemon tart · 02-11-2007, 06:21 PM

Catching up is such fun!

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And as Luke is a family man he would make sure that their child had at least one set of grandparents around, even if it means having E/R in his life too.

Agagin, I see no evidence of this. He's devoted to HIS family. He's never encouraged Lorelai to be closer to Emily & Richard. He avoided them in IO, YO. He didn't want to go to their house for dinner, even though he was engaged to their daughter in YBG. 21ITLN he didn't want to go to their house. They were about to become his inlaws, and he wanted nothing to do with them. What he did in a crisis, and perhaps with Richard almost dying he felt some guilt over his not wanting to have anything to do with them in the past, he wanted to do something kind. But he's really avoided Emily & Richard when given the opportunity.

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Conductor...I do believe you have established a strong case for something. Craig, search out with your hidden Sophie feelings, and you will know it to be true, To paraphrase a man that I still got much love for...this reference could get me all misty; "SOPHIES WIN! SOPHIES WIN! SOOOOOPHIES WIN!" Again, it's not a gloating thing, but more of a "Holy ****!" sort of thing. It's like the Cubs winning a World Series without the Cubs making it to a World Series...*everything crossed with salt and charms on top.*

Heee! I've got so many parts of my body crossed my yoga instructor thinks I've ODed. I'm turning into a pretzel!

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I don't see how Logan spending time in SH translates into Rory seeking the townies' approval of anything - she grew up there, loves the place, participated in all the town events while living there and her mom lives there - why wouldn't she want to have her guy spend some time in her hometown. I'm sure Babette and Miss Patty will be thrilled.

I would hope not, and I really don't think Rory cares. Unlike her mother. Otherwise she would have brought Logan home long ago. Wanting people that you grew up around to meet the person you might be spending your life with is different from seeking their approval. Something she has done with Lorelai, Chris, Emily & Richard. Fun interactions with Patty, Babette, Kirk, etc., is just a bonus.

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I also don't see that Lorelai was ever seeking the townies' approval

Lorelai pretty much stated she was seeking the town's approval in KPK. Otherwise there was no reason for the "If you're in with Jackson, you're in with the town," mandates, wardrobe changing, etc. She clearly does care what the town thinks of her choices and wants their approval. The fact that they withheld it really freaked her out.

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But I don't necessarily think he will go to Vegas. It doesn't say he leaves. It just says that he announces this plan and Rory worries, not Rory gets pissed. It would also tie in to the "college or forever" question that DR talked about in that interview a few months ago.

I also don't think he's actually going, Alan & Tanc aren't in the ep description, which makes me sad. I have a feeling Rory's going to yell at him, maybe about the last time he went off half cocked and did something without properly testing the potatoes in advance.

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My desire to see Logan in Stars Hollow never had anything to do with townie approval. It is more that SH was a huge factor in making Rory who she is and I have always found it a bit strange that she had never invited him there. Ever since I heard about Logan and the cheese rolling thing in England, (it was cheese rolling wasn't it?) I have thought that he would love to hit one of the cheesy festivals. I have also found it odd that they rarely put Lorelai and Logan in the same room. Are they afraid the world would explode or what? It seems odd to me that they don't. Hello, Rory lives with him, but he isn't allowed to come to SH, unless he is trying to get her back? Weird. It makes me feel like Rory is finally letting him all the way into her life. So, YAY!

That's the way I feel too. She's never felt like she HAD to bring Logan there, but it's nice to see her opening up all areas of her life to him.

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The sides with Logan in SH are still making me giddy. I get the feeling he just fits in, no fuss, no need to change his clothes or stuff in his hair, and no need for him to flash his dollar bills around like some modern day Midas (mind you, he might be in need of a few pennies himself by then). Anyway, I hope that's how it's portrayed.

Logan's never felt a need to flash his cash, but I would also hope he will feel no need to hide who he is. I hope he drives into town in his Porsche, uncaring what they all think of him. Otherwise how incredibly classist of all of them. Being much the same snobs they were in KPK, which was insufferable.

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Lorelai's the one that was making Chris change his clothes and mannerisms. I doubt Rory will do the same to Logan.

I doubt Rory would either.

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And I love the idea of little Rory dressed up as Charlotte Bronte for Halloween. I miss that Rory.

Which Rory? We never saw that Rory. I sometimes feel like people want to stick Rory in a jar of formaldehyde and preserve her as we met her. All parents face their children growing up and changing, that's part of life.

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And Sandlynn who was the guy Rory talked to after blaming the town?

Jess's guardian & uncle. Do you really think she went to see Luke for any other reason?

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Ah, nostalgia is all well and good, but inevitably and rather inexorably, all little children grow up, spreading their wings and leaving the mother's nest in order to live their own lives.

It is the dichotomy of parenting. You want them to grow up and succeed, but you also want to keep them frozen in amber with cherub cheeks and innocent eyes.

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But has Lorelai ever really been alone

No. Which is part of my reasoning for her to now be alone. She needs to accept herself, as is.

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Oh IA GEORGE. I want Rory to spread her wings and fly away from her mom, away from SH; I always assumed that is how the show would end. I'd rather her fly off dressed as Charlotte Bronte though, rather than a business tycoon. But that's just me.

Why would she be a business tycoon? There's no indication, even if she were to go into business with Logan that she's going to be a business tycoon. If they were go partner up it more than likely would have meant he was cutting himself loose from his family, and she was throwing her lot and fortunes in with him. That's not becoming an instant tycoon. It's a very unsure future, that I'm sure they would eventually make work, but it would be a great deal of work.

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I was talking about Lorelai, Sandlynn. In the end of RA, LB, after Sookie told Lorelai that Luke has always had a thing for her, Lorelai makes amends with Luke by telling him she only has a few people she can count on, people that are always in her life and always will be. She lists Sookie, Rory and .....Luke. ...She didn't mention her parents. Blood may be thicker than water but it also can harden.

I would agree, the town, and her friends in it are more important to Lorelai than her family. Her parents, at least. As we've been shown, thus far. Which is part of the reason for my skepticism about how much contact she would have with Emily & Richard, as things currently stand, if Rory were out of the picture. I think it would be minimal.

Thanks for the transcript, 2GGobsessed.

mitten07 · 02-11-2007, 06:22 PM

This writing is so inconsistent--they say one thing and mean another. Lorelai has not shown any remorse over her breakup with Luke. She isn't pining. She didn't miss a beat--she moved on and seems to really want her marriage to Chris to work out. She doesn't give "looks" to Luke. The only way this marriage is unraveling is because Chris is being insecure. Even the letter she wrote on Luke's behalf was supportive and complimetary--not a love letter in any way shape or form.

And how do Rory and Logan get closer all while Rory is supposed to have a hot and heavy crush on the TA? I think the TA thing is being blown WAY out of proportion.

lancer1993 · 02-11-2007, 06:26 PM

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This writing is so inconsistent--they say one thing and mean another. Lorelai has not shown any remorse over her breakup with Luke. She isn't pining. She didn't miss a beat--she moved on and seems to really want her marriage to Chris to work out. She doesn't give "looks" to Luke. The only way this marriage is unraveling is because Chris is being insecure. Even the letter was supportive and complimetary--not a love letter.

And how do Rory and Logan get closer all while Rory is supposed to have a hot and heavy crush on the TA? I think the TA thing is being blown WAY out of proportion.

I agree, the only thing we saw any regret was 5 seconds of Lorelai crying at the end of ep 7.02 then NO contact with Luke for 5 eps, enough time to marry the wrong guy and totally forget who she is!

mitten07 · 02-11-2007, 06:29 PM

But Lancer, only some fans believe he's the wrong guy. The writing this season does not substantiate that. That's what I mean.

seslavie · 02-11-2007, 06:30 PM

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I was talking about Lorelai, Sandlynn. In the end of RA, LB, after Sookie told Lorelai that Luke has always had a thing for her, Lorelai makes amends with Luke by telling him she only has a few people she can count on, people that are always in her life and always will be. She lists Sookie, Rory and .....Luke.

She didn't mention her parents. Blood may be thicker than water but it also can harden.

When did she say that? isn't that from the "old" Lorelai? who could trust that comment now? I couldn't...

I was wondering... Luke and April having a boat trip...and then? She will move to New Mexico, and he will wait until her next vacation?... Anna must hate Lorelai if her letter helped Luke. How Do you think that they could fix that?

I could bet that for Lorelai BLOOD is first.

ETA: Thanks 2ggObsessed.

I remember when Lorelai said this. But, I'm confused by your reference to the "old" Lorelai? How do you differentiate between the "old" and "new" Lorelai? How is the Lorelai who wrote that letter of reference for Luke, that said once he is in your life, he is in it forever, different from the Lorelai in the scene where she said that there were only a few people she could count on and Luke was one of them? They sound like the same person to me. Seriously, I'm not mocking (given the history of this thread), I want to know where and how you make the distinction.

lancer1993 · 02-11-2007, 06:36 PM

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But Lancer, only some fans believe he's the wrong guy. The writing this season does not substantiate that. That's what I mean.

But if he was the one they why the break up and Lorelai's mixed feelings.

IMO she is only saying the "I married you" to justify her mistake, she doesn't want to be 40 and divorced after only a few months married.

MissMarie01 · 02-11-2007, 06:38 PM

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This writing is so inconsistent--they say one thing and mean another. Lorelai has not shown any remorse over her breakup with Luke. She isn't pining. She didn't miss a beat--she moved on and seems to really want her marriage to Chris to work out. She doesn't give "looks" to Luke. The only way this marriage is unraveling is because Chris is being insecure. Even the letter she wrote on Luke's behalf was supportive and complimetary--not a love letter in any way shape or form.

And how do Rory and Logan get closer all while Rory is supposed to have a hot and heavy crush on the TA? I think the TA thing is being blown WAY out of proportion.

ITA. Nothing seems to follow the same track.

I just can't see Lorelai falling into Luke's arms and them being head over heels in love if Lorelai is still saying how she chose and wants Chris. I just can't see it. And i'm not trying to be bitter. All i'm saying is I want Lorelai to quite this denial act and stop prolonging a breakup that is bound to happen.

And I was thinking the same about RL's relationship. Getting closer but hots for the TA soon. Ur? Kay.

Again not being bitter, just confused/frustrated.

caf123 · 02-11-2007, 06:46 PM

Global Promo aired Sunday Feb 11th - YouSendIt, Megaupload, Rapidshare

Ciaobella · 02-11-2007, 06:54 PM

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Global Promo aired Sunday Feb 11th - YouSendIt

(more links to come)

Thanks caf and 2gg!

The "I chose you! I married you!" sounds like someone still in denial. And how did she chose Christopher? At that point, and even now, she thinks Luke didn't want her anymore. What chosing?

Sandlynn · 02-11-2007, 06:57 PM

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I also don't think he's actually going, Alan & Tanc aren't in the ep description, which makes me sad. I have a feeling Rory's going to yell at him, maybe about the last time he went off half cocked and did something without properly testing the potatoes in advance.

It's possible that Logan does go and we -- obviously -- won't see any of it, including Finn and Colin.

lancer1993 · 02-11-2007, 06:59 PM

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Global Promo aired Sunday Feb 11th - YouSendIt, Megaupload, Rapidshare

Thanks for that,

So Lorelai is wearing the same as in the DC Clip in the first take (I'm slow) so she's on the way to work?

Then the next day they have the break up talk?

Thanks for the clip 2GGobsessed and for posting it caf