Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #157 ~ We Need Paris to Organize Our Spoilers - Page 7

gilmorebrazil · 02-09-2007, 10:35 AM

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I loved MR's column but it wasn't because I agreed with his opinio about Logan/Rory. I can't explain perfectly WHY I liked his column but it wasn't because of his perception of Logan...

It was something about HOW he expressed himself. That snark.

Nice reason.

Now moving to a new subject, I has a spec that Mitchum/Logan will mirror Floyd/Jason (Digger)'s situation from season 4.

Although Logan isn't going so far as Digger (who wanted to piss his father), he is still buying a new venture against his father's will. And given that the new venture is separated from the HGP, Logan - even unintentionally - is developing an occupation outside his family business.

So, in order to cut Logan's "wings", Mitchum will meddle in his business to mess everything up. Probably in Mitchum's mind, if he can make Logan's fail, not only he'll have his son back to under his thumb but also scared to try another new adventure.

GEORGEIII · 02-09-2007, 10:46 AM

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Can I call Logan a servant? Really? Woo!

Not that it means anything if I call him that.

Spelling error, I presume.

And before it gets taken too seriously...it's just a joke. And I like Logan

Yep. I got that it was a joke.

I don't think Logan's a snob, and he certainly doesn't think Luke's a servant either; Logan offered to get coffee for him, for goodness sakes! (Apparently he's unaware that Luke is a fellow tea-drinker.)

damselfly · 02-09-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gilmorebrazil

Now moving to a new subject, I has a spec that Mitchum/Logan will mirror Floyd/Jason (Digger)'s situation from season 4.

Although Logan isn't going so far as Digger (who wanted to piss his father), he is still buying a new venture against his father's will. And given that the new venture is separated from the HGP, Logan - even unintentionally - is developing an occupation outside his family business.

So, in order to cut Logan's "wings", Mitchum will meddle in his business to mess everything up. Probably in Mitchum's mind, if he can make Logan's fail, not only he'll have his son back to under his thumb but also scared to try another new adventure.

I'm not so sure Mitchum will set Logan up to fail. He seems more of a straight shooter than a dirty player. Although I can see both scenarios.

If this doomed business venture turns out to be Logan being a maverick, with his dad having no involvement, I'm curious to see if Mitchum will bail him out or take a "you got yourself into this mess, figure a way out" stand.

Logan's betting his entire trust fund on it, plus borrowing the rest from somewhere. (This sounds like a scene straight from Dawson's Creek, with Pacey gambling with Dawson's life savings on a "sure thing"). If Mitchum leaves Logan to clean up the mess himself, he'll be like every other working stiff with only his salary to live on -- for a while anyway. That sounds like something Mitchum would do to teach Logan a lesson and get him back in line -- 'you might be a child of privilege, kid, but you still have to pay your dues in this business, and you've got a lot to learn'.

Mag13 · 02-09-2007, 10:57 AM

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You really think so

My Chris love is unlimited

A Sea of Love?

Interesting....

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Scene 27 - (Lukes apartment) awake, Luke hears them talking about him

What could he hear? I'd like to know, if it's the news about Christopher moving from SH in this episode (7.15)?
My Chris love is unlimited also!

leonana · 02-09-2007, 10:59 AM

I don't like criticism of Luke, but it is any poster's right to express it. Besides, he's a fictional character, so what do I care? Calling him a servant is no worse than calling Chris Dopey, imo.

The problem is when others deliberately bash Chris, Logan, Luke, etc. in order to piss other people off. That's where the childish behavior comes in.

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So, in order to cut Logan's "wings", Mitchum will meddle in his business to mess everything up. Probably in Mitchum's mind, if he can make Logan's fail, not only he'll have his son back to under his thumb but also scared to try another new adventure.

I think this sl is a good way to move Logan into owning his own business. Obviously, he'll be happier being his own boss, and not under his father's thumb. Logan is showing his strength by making this move. I've always hated how he how his father yelled at him like he was a child in VV. This would be a satisfactory end to that.

Sandlynn · 02-09-2007, 11:01 AM

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Logan's betting his entire trust fund on it, plus borrowing the rest from somewhere.

I can't believe his entire trust fund is three million dollars.

peachypeep · 02-09-2007, 11:04 AM

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I don't like criticism of Luke, but it is any poster's right to express it. Besides, he's a fictional character, so what do I care? Calling him a servant is no worse than calling Chris Dopey, imo.

The problem is when others deliberately bash Chris, Logan, Luke, etc. in order to piss other people off. That's where the childish behavior comes in.

I think this sl is a good way to move Logan into owning his own business. Obviously, he'll be happier being his own boss, and not under his father's thumb. Logan is showing his strength by making this move. I've always hated how he how his father yelled at him like he was a child in VV. This would be a satisfactory end to that.

xmonalpx · 02-09-2007, 11:04 AM

yay spoilers. good spoilers.

GEORGEIII · 02-09-2007, 11:05 AM

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I can't believe his entire trust fund is three million dollars.

There is a bit of a question about that; I seem to recall Rory saying in 7.08 that Logan's trust fund was five million dollars.

lorelaisgirl · 02-09-2007, 11:06 AM

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I can't believe his entire trust fund is three million dollars.

More or less? I got the feeling Rory thought it was less.

eta: thanks for the spoiler-clear-up. man, I was confused last night.

lemon tart · 02-09-2007, 11:08 AM

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And I agree with those who have said that there is something going on with Rory/Logan. I wouldn't be suprised if it's someting "big".

Your words to The DSR's ears! I've got everything crossed that can be crossed. Something big afoot...*meep*!

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Oh I definitely would not be surprised if there is something 'big' in a positive way going to happen with Rory and Logan. Bring it on

Ditto! BRING IT ON!

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Actually, watching the promo, I truly felt sorry for both Lorelai and Chris. Lorelai all choked-up and crying and insisting that they can still try, that she wants to want Chris...and Chris quietly saying no and holding her knee. It appeared as if both of them were mourning the passing of their marriage. If there was ever any evidence to settle the endless "who ends it?" debate here, then that scene would be it. Their separation is clearly a mutual, painful decision for both of them.

I don't know how it can be anything else, either. It's pretty obvious that Lorelai's emotionally ripped apart by the whole thing. Maybe as much as she was in Partings. It's sad.

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Here are the transcripts of all the interactions Logan has had with Marty. I don't see snobbery at all from Logan. You definitely have a case with Collin however.

There's always a case with Collin! He's just like Emily, Lorelai, Luke, Jess, Richard...etc.

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Um...could we forget about 6.08 and move on...I mean, that happened over a year ago. Has anyone really talked about Logan's behavior to Jess recently? And I haven't seen any talk about Marty except that it was a reaaly useless and bad plotline...haven't seen people talking about Logan's so-called snobby behavior to Marty in ages too.

Ummm, I getting a headache right now just thinking about the comments made here & elsewhere about how Logan treated Marty in MF. Seriously, I thought the ep was written just so the haters could all come out and say, SEEEEEE he really is horrible!

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I'm not so sure Mitchum will set Logan up to fail. He seems more of a straight shooter than a dirty player. Although I can see both scenarios.

Mitchum's been shown to be a pretty straight shooter with just about everyone, except Logan. He has his idea of what he want from Logan and he's going to do what he deems necessairy to achieve that.

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Logan's betting his entire trust fund on it, plus borrowing the rest from somewhere.

Logan didn't say that. He said he was getting 3 million dollars from his trust fund. Which would, I would guess, be the amount of liquid capitol he can get his hands on right away. Logan's trust fund, the Huntzberger family trust, would be in the hundreds of millions. They're set up in complicated ways to shield them from taxation. You get income, which isn't really income, off the interest, never the principle. You don't touch, likely don't have access to, the principle.

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There is a bit of a question about that; I seem to recall Rory saying in 7.08 that Logan's trust fund was five million dollars.

I don't think that was said, either. And that figure seems low to me, very low. I don't think they've put a monitary figure on Logan's trust fund. The likelyhood is even though he refers to it as "his trust fund" it's the family one, which was likely established decades ago.

**NikNak** · 02-09-2007, 11:13 AM

For the love of god, people.

Must there be a debate about almost everything on this damn thread?

It's not that serious, really.

Move on NOW.

wej5541 · 02-09-2007, 11:29 AM

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There is a bit of a question about that; I seem to recall Rory saying in 7.08 that Logan's trust fund was five million dollars.

Here's that excerpt, I think Rory just picked 5 million out randomly. I don't think she actually knows how much Logan's trust fund is:

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LOGAN: What I'm a rich trust-fund kid. I'm not ashamed of it.

RORY: No and you shouldn't be. That's not what I meant. I mean, the point or the point I was trying to make was that people use connections to get ahead.

LOGAN: Oh give me a break, you act like making connections is something nefarious. It's just people meeting people.

RORY: Well, it's certain people meeting certain people. It's not like anyone's meeting Joe bus driver.

LOGAN: And you're Joe bus driver.

RORY: Well, no, but…

LOGAN: Exactly, I mean where do you get off acting all morally superior?

RORY: That is not what I intended to say at all.

LOGAN: You clearly think you are. Why? Because you read "Ironweed"? 'Cause you saw "Norma Rae"?

RORY: Logan…

LOGAN: Wake up Rory whether you like it or not, you're one of us. You went to prep school. You go to Yale. Your grandparents are building a whole damn astronomy building in your name.

RORY: That is different, okay? It's not like I live off a $5-million trust fund my parents set up for me.
LOGAN: Yeah well, you're not exactly paying rent, either.

RORY: [Scoffs] Screw you, Logan.

LORELAI: [Sighs]

damselfly · 02-09-2007, 11:31 AM

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I can't believe his entire trust fund is three million dollars.

Yeah, I think it's 5 million - Rory made a snarky reference to that in PLG. He'd have to pay back the 2 million he borrowed from the hedge fund manager, but how quickly is the question. That could all but wipe him out. But whatever it is, I could see Mitchum letting Logan twist for a while to get his point across, even if his intention is to cover him in the end.

lemon tart · 02-09-2007, 11:38 AM

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Here's that excerpt, I think Rory just picked 5 million out randomly. I don't think she actually knows how much Logan's trust fund is:

I agree with you, Wayne. 5 million is also a low number, considering who the Huntzbergers are supposed to be. I doubt Rory knows how much the net worth of the Huntzberger trust is.

To have an American Express Black Card you must charge at least $100,000 per anum. Just on it.