Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #156 ~ Who Wants Fish? - Page 5

lorelai_loves_luke · 02-07-2007, 06:07 PM

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Bottom line I saw was Logan could get her tea and Luke could pick up the car.

totally.

lancer1993 · 02-07-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Riska (View Post)

Compared to American car's European cars don't need any gas at all, Craig

And i don't think it was weird for Emily to "offer". Although she might not like Luke, she never thought he was a thief. And I guess they're having a good insurance, after all that's Richard's job: insure things

I guess you're right about the gas, I don't really see Emily as pick up truck kinda girl LOL

I didn't think the Emily would consider Luke a thief he was engaged to Lorelai for a year so in Emily eye he must have been okay. But the scene was just weird for me, but I guess being someone who probably hand the car over to mechanics and valet all the time it's probably no big deal for Emily to have someone else at her beck and call. I'm the kind of guy who like to park my own car.

ETA - I loved the whole fish parts, I wonder if that will come up in the diet discussion in ep 15?

Riska · 02-07-2007, 06:17 PM

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I guess you're right about the gas, I don't really see Emily as pick up truck kinda girl LOL

I didn't think the Emily would consider Luke a thief he was engaged to Lorelai for a year so in Emily eye he must have been okay. But the scene was just weird for me, but I guess being someone who probably hand the car over to mechanics and valet all the time it's probably no big deal for Emily to have someone else at her beck and call. I'm the kind of guy who like to park my own car.

ETA - I loved the whole fish parts, I wonder if that will come up in the diet discussion in ep 15?

About the bolded part: I guess that's it aka it's the reason why it's no big deal at all, at least I didn't feel this way. It was just: someone has to get Richard's car and well, there's Luke, he can do it.

And I think we'll hear a lot about the fish in the next episodes, especially when Emily and Richard have the discussion about healthy food.

My, I already see Sookie jumping up and down in joy, clapping her hands upon the wide range of fish in the Gilmore houshold. She's gonna be one happy cook

lancer1993 · 02-07-2007, 06:30 PM

All this talk of fish is making me hungry, good thing it's almost lunch!

I wonder if Chris had any of Luke's food he bought?

Maybe he puts something in the buggers or coffee that make Lorelai love him

ETA - Sorry this is late, I've only now had time to check the last thread

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Originally Posted by GEORGEIII

Dunno. But I think perhaps 7.14 and 7.15 will make clear that Lorelai has unresolved feelings for Luke and that she and Chris need to separate/part ways. It looks like a "mutual" parting though, at least from the promo of 7.14; we'll have to see how it plays out; since promos can't be trusted, of course. The issue that remains after 7.14-7.15 for a L/L reunion is, naturally, can Luke trust Lorelai again? (Romantically, that is, since it's obvious they are still friends.)

Well I don't know if L&L would be together as soon as 14-15, I'm still hoping for 19 and the big 150! I can see them closer by 17 just in time for the hiatus.

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Originally Posted by secret life

I've said and thought it often...that I really don't think this is being played out as a Luke vs Chris scenario. She will come to terms about her marriage and relationship to Chris first. Her relationship with Luke--whatever form it would evolve to--would come later, and separately.

Well I was half joking but the way the season has gone I would not be surprise if they dragger this out till the end of the season.

MickeyJr3000 · 02-07-2007, 06:33 PM

I do wonder what Rory would think about her parents separation...what will her feelings be toward it anyway?

I'm realizing I'm starting to get tired of this drama. I mean, back in 5.14 we saw Lorelai devastated at the prospect of losing Luke. Look where they've gone from there. Two years later and they're separated, only so they can get BACK togehter sometime this season. And for what? What did the journey serve anyway? I think LG was right about what she said in an article: She's been playing this character for so long, and there's only so many ways she could play Lorelai Gilmore within new scenarios and emitting new behaviour and emotions. The longer they try to keep this show on the air, the crazier the show's story arcs are going to get. ASP should NEVER have split L/L up the way she did last year...with DS in there as the romantic plot A for this season. And DR should have shortened the 'journey' to about three, maybe four lonely episodes, followed by reconciation, regaining of trust between L/L, marriage, and ending the show's run with Rory's graduation, Luke and Lorelai married and expecting (or planning on expecting).
THAT would have been a satifying end to this show. Dragging the story out further than it needs to only makes it feel less organic.

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I don't think he came because he's the bigger person. I didn't see that. I do, however, think he had ended things, and left Lorelai already. I very much agree with Captain there. And he only came because Lorelai begged him to be there.

I was just thinking about this...and it seems so odd and quite rude that Chris still feels he's Richard's "Son-in-law," if he's already ready to leave the marriage. He's not entitled to that title if he's planning to dump her (or if he planned to)

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Why won't people accept that Chris realized in 7.12 that his marriage was over? He said "I can't" and left. He presumably returned to his apartment, just like Rhett Butler returned to Charleston.

He wasn't being an ass by ignoring Lorelai--to him it was ALREADY OVER.

Capt, this would be all fine and dandy, IF we had a clue that Christopher was dumping Lorelai. However, it seems he still wants to 'work it out' with her next week, accepting that they have to work through Lorelai's feelings for Luke or whatever. It's going to be Lorelai who says she doesn't want to be in the marriage, not him. And this is a big problem. If Chris was invested in any way in this relationship, he would have put away his qualms and resentment over the fight they had the night before, and he would have came to support his in-law family, who have been nothing but ultimately KIND to him for the past 22+ years. He was showing disrespect not only as a husband, but as a son-in-law, to someone who has treated him kindly for years, almost like a son, despite his flaws. Plus, as a friend to Lorelai at LEAST, he should have showed up for her. It seemed as though he didn't care one BIT what the issue she was calling him for was. You don't do that. You DON"T deliberately ignore a ringing phone for HOURS when you have a responsibility to your wife and to others you are bound to through blood or by law.

And Capp, if you're SURE this leaving will be the for SURE one...just wanna ask...how is that possible if he shows up for Rory's graduation? And WHEN THE HELL will he be given any sort of talking to by any of the characters (besides Luke, who already has done it) for not being a stand-up guy to his 'wife' or to the daughter he's had for 22 years? Yeah, I'm still bitter. And how about that "I though I could handle being your second choice" thing? To KNOWINGLY engage in a relationship, clearly not long after her engagement broke off, push further to marriage when she wanted to wait...he's not a total victim here. He did this to himself and it's not all Lorelai's fault at ALL that this happened. She was weak. She fell into a trap that he opened for her. It's like that story about the scorpian and the frog. Unfortunately, this time around, the frog is friggen APOLOGIZING to the scorpion for letting him ride on her back, because she never really wanted him to ride on her back in the first place. Forget the fact that the scorpion stung her too. They both drown, but the scorpion is seen as the victim because the frog didn't want to save the scorpion from drowning. Hopefully you all remember that both frog and scorpion drown, because the scorpion stings the frog after promising he wouldn't. Becuase that's just in Scorpion's nature.

Scorpion. Frog. Twisted.

Also, Luke being a g-dfather would have worked if it was for Doula, but I have no clue why he's a g-dfather for Lane's kid. I'd much appreciate Rory, Gil, and Brian as g-dparents. Luke, however? Makes no sense.

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Moreover, I don't understand how people can say it was sweet of Luke to drive to the hospital. It was inappropriate. He and Lorelai broke up. ..

I remember we had these sorts of discussions prior to the episode, so I have to say this: When he showed up, he gave his reason why he did. He didn't think. He just went because...it was an instinct. It WAS sweet that he was concerned for Lorelai and her father so much. But what made me happy (and why I wonder why the heck this is being discussed AGAIN) is that Luke acknowledged that he may not be wanted around there, that it may be uncomfortable with Chris there, and he offered to leave if he wasn't needed. He didn't expect to be welcomed there and he didn't ask to be welcome either. It seems as though this was a Luke instinct. He's not someone who instinctively picks up the phone and dials to ask Lorelai how she's doing. His instinct is to run over there. Whether it's 100% appropriate of him or not, he's showing he cares in the way that he knows how. IMO, much better than anything Chris was doing.

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I didn't think the Emily would consider Luke a thief

I wouldn't even have thought of that in the least bit. I think Emily knows the kind of guy Luke is...diner guy, was a threat to her (because Lorelai liked him), but he's nothing to worry about really. He doesn't do much harm. He's kind of pathetic (social status wise). Blue-collared.

She trusts him, IMO, because she too has known him all these years. She met him in 1.06, Lorelai had always talked about him in her stories, he was at the hospital in 1.10, and she's seen him, heard stories about him, interacted with him, every year of this show, (season four the exception). He's been around so much and so often I'd wonder what's wrong with her if she had questioned his thievery...as though he were a stranger to her...which I don't think he is.

Tara Ashley · 02-07-2007, 06:38 PM

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And once Emily shared what was going on with her and Lorelai got it and was emotionally touched by it, they shared duds people ... they shared duds ....

That was a classic Gilmore Girls moment, those duds. Only this show could turn a junk food into a bonding tool. LOVED that part. Almost as much as I loved the way Lorelai said "Tell dad we say hi"...and Emily replied "I will Lorelai." It just...worked.

I'm randomly liking this episode more and more. I think I get too caught up in the moment as I watch it, and only after a day or so am I able to really appreciate the little things.

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I remember we had these sorts of discussions prior to the episode, so I have to say this: When he showed up, he gave his reason why he did. He didn't think. He just went because...it was an instinct. It WAS sweet that he was concerned for Lorelai and her father so much. But what made me happy (and why I wonder why the heck this is being discussed AGAIN) is that Luke acknowledged that he may not be wanted around there, that it may be uncomfortable with Chris there, and he offered to leave if he wasn't needed. He didn't expect to be welcomed there and he didn't ask to be welcome either. It seems as though this was a Luke instinct. He's not someone who instinctively picks up the phone and dials to ask Lorelai how she's doing. His instinct is to run over there. Whether it's 100% appropriate of him or not, he's showing he cares in the way that he knows how. IMO, much better than anything Chris was doing.

I agree. Sure he crossed some sort of family boundary, but he knows he did -- and above all, it came from an utmost genuine place in his heart. He cares. That's all. No other way to explain it. And anyways, since when does Luke ever have a clue about what to do? You know? He just acts on instinct. We saw a lot of this with Jess and of course, with April.

Alright, that's my two cents from the library

STILL now DC or promo? I'm so anxious! I can't get enough of rewinding "You're the man I want to want". Is LG amazing or what?

Riska · 02-07-2007, 06:40 PM

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I remember we had these sorts of discussions prior to the episode, so I have to say this: When he showed up, he gave his reason why he did. He didn't think. He just went because...it was an instinct. It WAS sweet that he was concerned for Lorelai and her father so much. But what made me happy (and why I wonder why the heck this is being discussed AGAIN) is that Luke acknowledged that he may not be wanted around there, that it may be uncomfortable with Chris there, and he offered to leave if he wasn't needed. He didn't expect to be welcomed there and he didn't ask to be welcome either. It seems as though this was a Luke instinct. He's not someone who instinctively picks up the phone and dials to ask Lorelai how she's doing. His instinct is to run over there. Whether it's 100% appropriate of him or not, he's showing he cares in the way that he knows how. IMO, much better than anything Chris was doing.

Well, before the episode aired, we didn't know why Luke would be in the hospital and the discussions now are different. Moreover, I'm no fan of impulsive actions that show a lack of thinking, no matter how caring or full of love they seem to be. I expect people to act with more brain than heart aka a good balance of both. Everything else shows a lack - but that's just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Craig

I wonder if Chris had any of Luke's food he bought?

Maybe he puts something in the buggers or coffee that make Lorelai love him

And then Chris is in love with Luke?

Sandlynn · 02-07-2007, 06:41 PM

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Bottom line I saw was Logan could get her tea and Luke could pick up the car.

Which is kind of funny, because Logan is the one who might know more about fancy cars and Luke would be the one who would know more about making a good cup of tea -- although both men are tea drinkers.

Weird.

lancer1993 · 02-07-2007, 07:01 PM

Stephanie great post and IMO the only reason they are stretching this SL out is in the hope for S8.

ETA

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And then Chris is in love with Luke?

Now that's love triangle I want to see LOL

Sara23 · 02-07-2007, 07:02 PM

I still find it a little weird about Luke being the godfather to the babies. I can see the whole parental aspect of it all, but I feel it should have been Rory and Brian because of the friendships.

**Katiegg108** · 02-07-2007, 07:08 PM

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I still find it a little weird about Luke being the godfather to the babies. I can see the whole parental aspect of it all, but I feel it should have been Rory and Brian because of the friendships.

It might be Rory, and if it's not Rory, I'll be shocked. It makes sense that they would choose Luke in a lot of ways, he's obviously helping them out a lot with making sure Lane was taking breaks back in 7.07, and so on, and now letting zach work there so they can keep up their income. They're probably very grateful for all that. Brian, though would seem like the first choice, but honestly, I don't know if Lane would want Brian to be her children's godfather, he is confused, awkward Brian after all.

Sandlynn · 02-07-2007, 07:13 PM

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I still find it a little weird about Luke being the godfather to the babies. I can see the whole parental aspect of it all, but I feel it should have been Rory and Brian because of the friendships.

I'm very surprised they wouldn't choose Brian. I hope they address that in the episode. He is a fellow band member and Zach's bestfriend.

Riska · 02-07-2007, 07:14 PM

Well, don't two babies actually need four different godmothers/godfathers? At least that's the propper procedure of "my" church (roman catholic, not that I'm a member anymore but I was raised that way

) aka how they handled it with the twin babies and siblings I know - they usually never have the same godmother/father

Every kid has to have to special people who make sure that they're raised in a Christian way (Yeayyy, because Lorelai takes Sookies kid to church or what

Still a nice tradition *G*)

Spikette · 02-07-2007, 07:15 PM

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Stephanie great post and IMO the only reason they are stretching this SL out is in the hope for S8.

ETA

Now that's love triangle I want to see LOL

Maybe they already know there will be? Could that be why things were "tweaked" because they realized they now had more time to play out the story? Wishful thinking on my part.....

catkirk7 · 02-07-2007, 07:16 PM

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Well, don't two babies actually need four different godmothers/godfathers? At least that's the propper procedure of "my" church (roman catholic, not that I'm a member anymore but I was raised that way

) aka how they handled it with the twin babies I know

Every kid has to have to special people who chek out that they're raised in a Christian way (Yeayyy, because Lorelai takes Sookies kid to church or what

Still a nice tradition *G*)

Davey, Martha, and Jackson only had one god parent each.