Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #151 ~ Stop Putting the A-Talent in C-Storylines - Page 2

SarahLovesLogan · 02-01-2007, 09:55 AM

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Who should be the A-Talent? If it's about Alexis, I take the liberty of having different opinion!
Another topic: if, according to the spoiler, Babette sees Chris moving from Stars Hollow in 7.15, will the townies tell Luke about it? And how soon?

Who said it was about Alexis? And even if it IS about her, why the need to single me out, and say you "take the liberty" of having a different opinion?

Where did I say it was about Alexis and indisputable fact? In fact, I didn't even say that was my opinion. I commented on Jason doing a good job with the title. Why am I getting a whole whack of assumptions made about me because of it?

Since you seem to be interested in MY views, here they are, the A-Listers who I feel should have A storylines this year are Alexis and Matt, Liza, Kelly and Edward.

Again, the above are MY views, and anyone is perfectly entitled to have a differing opinion.

damselfly · 02-01-2007, 10:00 AM

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Damsel, why are we even having this argument? Seriously. Why was Luke so foulable last season and during the summer, but now is a saint? Really? Again, what I have stated, is not an insult to the character of Luke. Few other people in this thread have ever defended Luke as much I have. So, why you guys are questioning me, and making me out as implying Luke has some alteriour motives...is beyond me. People do solids for people. Who have done solids for them. That's reciprocity...yo.

Who's arguing? I'm agreeing with you, but I also think helping people out is inherent to Luke, so I don't think you can discount that side of him either.

leonana · 02-01-2007, 10:02 AM

Luke has done favors for others without the motivation of paying them back. However, I do think Lorelai's favor of writing the letter has made him more comfortable about approaching her. There has been distance between them prior to the custody hearing. I think he now feels closer to her again to where he can help. So, I agree the letter made a difference, but for a different reason.

As for LG's producer credit, if the last ep is any indication of her influence, I say more power to her. I thought the last ep was pretty good.

GEORGEIII · 02-01-2007, 10:04 AM

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Who should be the A-Talent? If it's about Alexis, I take the liberty of having different opinion!

I believe everyone is rather well aware of your opinion.

You don't think LG is A-talent? Do you believe that "Lorelai's Journey" (To adopt the rather infamous turn of phrase used by DSR) has been well done, this season?

The purpose of a general-sounding title such as this, is that it may apply to more than one set of views.

jalapeno_wildchild · 02-01-2007, 10:08 AM

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So, Alexis should have C storylines? If so, why does the show need her for Season 8? She would be very dispensible. GG does need her for season 8. The show you have in mind doesn't.

GG needs Rory if they want a season 8 for the simple fact that LG has said she will not sign on to do another season unless AB signs on. So, if we want a season 8, Alexis must sign on for one more year.

Thanks for the thread Caf

gilmorebrazil · 02-01-2007, 10:09 AM

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I have no idea what input Lauren Graham has into storyline choices, but i do know that Amy Sherman-Palladino set up David Sutcliff for an "A" storyline this year, not Lauren.

I don't know either what input LG has nor if is fair to blame her for anything wrong in the show. But I do remember two strong rumours about her that could make people wonder about this topic:

1) Last year -- I don't remember if it was before Fraz brought the spoilers about DS crontract for 13 episodes and an "A" storyline this season" -- there were those rumours (from eonline) about LG being "pissy polly" with storylines the first half of the season.

2) At the very beginning of this season, I think Ausiello made some comments about Lauren rewriting some of her quotes. And some posters here also complained about the same thing.

Of course all that can be just rumours. But since the CW gave her a producer credit, I think LG at least want to voice her opinions on the show.

peachypeep · 02-01-2007, 10:14 AM

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there were those rumours (from eonline) about LG being "pissy polly" with storylines the first half of the season.

I believe Lauren has been quoted on the record as disliking the way the rift between Lorelai and Rory was played out and her character's passivity with Luke - sentiments echoed here by fans.

catkirk7 · 02-01-2007, 10:24 AM

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GG needs Rory if they want a season 8 for the simple fact that LG has said she will not sign on to do another season unless AB signs on. So, if we want a season 8, Alexis must sign on for one more year.

Thanks for the thread Caf

Actually GG needs Alexis because it's not the Gilmore Girls we all came to love without her. I know a lot of fans think the sun revolves around LG (even if Lorelai is pure evil at the moment), but many fans watch this show for both girls and (this season) just Rory.

Thanks for the thread caf. Great title Jason

damselfly · 02-01-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gilmorebrazil

I don't know either what input LG has nor if is fair to blame her for anything wrong in the show.

I agree. Only the folks behind the scenes know for sure what kind of influence she has, if any, so it's unfair to assume Lauren's responsible for a sub-par first half and AB's lack of storyline. DO said to expect a better second half, and maybe that's all wrapped up in giving LG producing credit. If it does improve, and Rory gets a storyline, or if Logan, Emily and Richard get more screen time, or if there's more family dynamic in the next 10 episodes, it'll be interesting to see if any of that is attributed to Lauren's input.

Mag13 · 02-01-2007, 10:33 AM

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ETA: Mag, outside of you obviously trolling for a flame war by bashing Kim. That title is about EVERYONE not named LAUREN or SCOTT. If you did not get that at first without insulting one of the stars of this show. Well, that's on yo homie.

No war! I'm "The Quiet European".

And I was speaking about AB as an actress (and George, you're right, I have my opinion on her - why should I hide it?), not about a character named Rory. I agree, some of the characters on GG deserve more attention and better storylines this year: from the "A" group there's Logan, from the townies Kirk, Taylor. Some of characters are just unnecessary: I think about Lucy and her stupid story line. It's just laisy writing, too easy way to build artificial tension on screen, and the really important plots are ignored.

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Again, the above are MY views, and anyone is perfectly entitled to have a differing opinion.

Me too?

clmorrow · 02-01-2007, 10:39 AM

I can't imagine they would do this show without AB - at least I hope they wouldn't. The writers have not done well by her at all this year - I so much preferred the days when the show was a well balanced blend of the girls, the parents, their love interests, friends and the townies. I miss town meetings - only one so far this season. Doesn't have to be a long drawn out one, just one that has showcases some of the goofiness and excentricities of the townies.

Who knows - maybe Dawn Ostroff will make good on her statement that the second half of the season will be stronger or better or whatever word she used.

GEORGEIII · 02-01-2007, 10:40 AM

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DO said to expect a better second half, and maybe that's all wrapped up in giving LG producing credit. If it does improve, and Rory gets a storyline, or if Logan, Emily and Richard get more screen time, or if there's more family dynamic in the next 10 episodes, it'll be interesting to see if any of that is attributed to Lauren's input.

I concur.

I also recall DO saying that she would try to "do whatever it takes" to bring GG back, so it sounded to me like the network so far has not given up on a putative season 8.

blaab · 02-01-2007, 10:47 AM

okee, no use for this anymore

clmorrow · 02-01-2007, 10:49 AM

Oops. Blaab you are right - it was a typo, I did mean without. I'll correct my post.

GEORGEIII · 02-01-2007, 10:55 AM

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Oops. Blaab you are right - it was a typo, I did mean without. I'll correct my post.

I figured as much, since you were talking about the "well-balanced blend of the girls." In fact, I must admit that on first glance, I didn't even notice the error until blaab pointed it out! Heh.