Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #144 ~ GG - Welcome To The Dark Side - Page 7

Riska · 01-23-2007, 05:46 AM

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Apparently this is the second semester of Richard's course...Shouldn't Rory have already met all of Richard's teaching assistants?

Good catch. But then I hardly had any contact to the TA's of my professors, I knew some of the faces, but that was it. So, maybe she had seen him before, but it's actually the way he holds the lecture, the things he says that impress her and lead to the crush. After all Rory isn't the kind of girl, who can be impressed with looks only, but she has a little something for intelligent men.

ETA: Additional it can be that Rory and the TA have a talk about Richard. I assume he knows him pretty well as they've been working together, while Logan f.e. hardly knows Richard and Rory maybe needs someone (neutral) to talk about Richard with. The TA might ask her how Richard's doing which leads to the conversation.

Frattaglia · 01-23-2007, 06:24 AM

Thanks for all the spoilers

Not really GG related,but I found this about ASP's new show and I thought to bring it over:

Scott Cohen get casting call from ASP

Amy sure loves her actors

I kinda miss her.

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Rory and Logan are not living together anymore, they don't interact much anymore, and now Rory's interest is waning and her eyes are roaming. This doesn't say to me, everything's going to be fine and they'll remain together. It says, they are going to come to a realization that they don't belong together, and that'll be how it ends.

Sounds like what happened with Rory and Dean...he build her a car,and 2 episodes later she was lusting after Jess

Maybe when things start to get serious,Rory starts to get bored...she's always been like this,imho.She declares to want stability,but when she achieves it,she craves for excitement.That's why she's usually drawn to what she can't have:the bad boy,the married man,the playboy,and now the TA.

I doubt this TA crush will be anything serious anyway,otherwise he'd be recurring.Maybe he doesn't return her feelings,I'd like to see that eh.

jillianries · 01-23-2007, 06:35 AM

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Sounds like what happened with Rory and Dean...he build her a car,and 2 episodes later she was lusting after Jess

Maybe when things start to get serious,Rory starts to get bored...she's always been like this,imho.She declares to want stability,but when she achieves it,she craves for excitement.That's why she's usually drawn to what she can't have:the bad boy,the married man,the playboy,and now the TA.

I doubt this TA crush will be anything serious anyway,otherwise he'd be recurring.Maybe he doesn't return her feelings,I'd like to see that eh.

IMO Here's the thing, I really think Rory is one who craves stability, but, and this is one of the main reasons I do not like Christopher, she feels that all the men in her life will leave her, so she will try and control the situation as much as possible. Maybe she does forgive her father for bailing, but it has contributed to her relationship problems. i see the reaction to the TA as a response to Richard's health issues (she is afraid he will "leave" and when Logan comes to support her beautifully it may trigger that fear that causes her to act in a way that is detramental to the relationship.)

elduccia · 01-23-2007, 08:08 AM

I wouldn't go all shrink-y with Rory and how her relationship with her father affected her life.

She dumped Dean for Jess - well, she got dumped but you get my point - because...she was 17! It's normal at that age to move from a boyfriend to another. Expecially - as Riska said - if the guy got some brain and is a bookworm like her.

I believe she'll get a crush on her TA because this things happen even if you love your boyfriend very much - and she DOES love Logan. Period.
And a crush is not falling in love. It's a crush: it's gettin' goosebumps and feeling all weird when you see that guy and maybe you also fantasize about him and then, just like it came in it'll go away.

Logan has become a stable part of her life and - although he's anything but nornal (as in Dean-like normal aka boring) their relationship has hit a point where nothing much will happen btw them, for a little while. They have their own goals to pursue - which will affect their relationship of course, just like it happened when Logan went to London - but unless they get married they'll be in a stable limbo for a while.
The beginning was rocky and exiciting, the gettin' together was exciting and the becoming boyfriend and girlfriend was exciting because it was the first time for Logan.
Now they are settling down a little - although there's still plenty of room for excitement, like we see in the first half of the season - so she sits in a class and a cute and smart guy makes a remark that gets her attention.

Beside: with her granfather still recovering all she will want is stability.

I don't think Rory will consciously or unconsciously look for someone else. It'll happen. And it'll go away.
I'm not a sophie but I really like Rory and Logan. As a JJ I've had enough sad scene in the season premiere and in 7.2. I want at least Rory and Logan to be happy.

ckomodo · 01-23-2007, 08:40 AM

I think the whole crush thing is just a somewhat desparate attempt at a Rory sl. They've had her and Logan break up and get back together twice, they've had her quit Yale and go back, she's moved from place to place to place like a gypsy, they apparently lack sufficient imigaination to give her a decent plot. All season she's been in the role of "reactor", reacting to Lorelia's life, now she gets to stand around the hospital and react. This girl needs a plot!

Sandlynn · 01-23-2007, 08:59 AM

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I concur.

I wonder if Rory will tell Logan, if his patented "Rory-radar" activates and he senses that something is off; after all, we're about to be told in 7.11 that Rory's "lesson" from 7.10 is that "honesty is the best policy."

I am very interested in whether Rory says anything, and then Logan could use his connections to have the guy fired. (Okay, maybe that's not such a good idea.)

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Apparently this is the second semester of Richard's course...Shouldn't Rory have already met all of Richard's teaching assistants?

Well, maybe he got a new batch of TA's for the spring semester. What's "unbelieveable" to me is that a TA would take over a class that has to be upper level. Is Rory still taking survey courses as a senior? It would be easier to believe if this "crushee" were a professor, another visiting instructor, or even a post-doc.

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ETA: Additional it can be that Rory and the TA have a talk about Richard. I assume he knows him pretty well as they've been working together, while Logan f.e. hardly knows Richard and Rory maybe needs someone (neutral) to talk about Richard with. The TA might ask her how Richard's doing which leads to the conversation.

Logan knows Richard. They're not colleagues, granted, but their families are acquaintances, he's been to the Gilmore house many times, had personal chats with Richard, and has even slept over ... without Richard's knowledge, of course ... but he has!

Riska · 01-23-2007, 09:26 AM

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Logan knows Richard. They're not colleagues, granted, but their families are acquaintances, he's been to the Gilmore house many times, had personal chats with Richard, and has even slept over ... without Richard's knowledge, of course ... but he has!

I can't deny that they know each. They know each other like you know someone you meet every now and then, have small talks with and a drink. Yes, I remember their conversation about Logan's intentions, still the way it happend gives me the expression that their relationship is shallow and none of them has invested time in getting to know the other one. There's a difference between know someone and know someone. Rory admires her grandfather, something that might go for the TA as well (his work and opinions etc.) while I wouldn't say that about Logan. Plus, as I wrote in my first post, the TA is neutral.

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Well, maybe he got a new batch of TA's for the spring semester. What's "unbelieveable" to me is that a TA would take over a class that has to be upper level. Is Rory still taking survey courses as a senior? It would be easier to believe if this "crushee" were a professor, another visiting instructor, or even a post-doc.

You know my theory that the things he says during the lecture impress Rory. You don't have to be a post-doc to be intelligent and smart, to have good opinions and know how to talk.

Plus, as far as I remember Richard just holds classes, but there are no test with them or stuff.

elduccia · 01-23-2007, 09:34 AM

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I think the whole crush thing is just a somewhat desparate attempt at a Rory sl.

I concur

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They've had her and Logan break up and get back together twice, they've had her quit Yale and go back, she's moved from place to place to place like a gypsy, they apparently lack sufficient imigaination to give her a decent plot. All season she's been in the role of "reactor", reacting to Lorelia's life, now she gets to stand around the hospital and react. This girl needs a plot!

Yeah. So hard to immagine a plot for a girl who'll be graduating from college in a few months.

Uhm....let me think: what about picking again that crash down moment near the sink with her artsy friends and have Rory questioning herself about her future and FOR REAL this time.
I thought there was potential there, but DR&Co didn't develop that. So I guess Rory was quesitoning herself because she had inhailed too much hair colour chemicals?

This TA crush plot is pathetic. Rory deserves a real SL!

fox24 · 01-23-2007, 09:36 AM

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Sounds like what happened with Rory and Dean...he build her a car,and 2 episodes later she was lusting after Jess

Maybe when things start to get serious,Rory starts to get bored...she's always been like this,imho.She declares to want stability,but when she achieves it,she craves for excitement.That's why she's usually drawn to what she can't have:the bad boy,the married man,the playboy,and now the TA.

I doubt this TA crush will be anything serious anyway,otherwise he'd be recurring.Maybe he doesn't return her feelings,I'd like to see that eh.

First of all Logan is a very exciting guy, not boring. A Helicopter is exciting and when she was with Dean she was 17. Second of all even then her crush on Jess was gradual it did not happen over night like the specs say about the t.a. Plus Rory is so much more in in love with Logan then she is with Dean.

jillianries · 01-23-2007, 09:40 AM

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I wouldn't go all shrink-y with Rory and how her relationship with her father affected her life.

Not all "Shrink-y" more character motivation, her relationship with her father should affect her life or why would ASP keep him out of it?

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She dumped Dean for Jess - well, she got dumped but you get my point - because...she was 17! It's normal at that age to move from a boyfriend to another. Expecially - as Riska said - if the guy got some brain and is a bookworm like her.
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Perhaps, and maybe the reason she couldn't say ILY to Dean was because she was a normal 17 year old who is afraid of her feelings.

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]I believe she'll get a crush on her TA because this things happen even if you love your boyfriend very much - and she DOES love Logan. Period.
And a crush is not falling in love. It's a crush: it's gettin' goosebumps and feeling all weird when you see that guy and maybe you also fantasize about him and then, just like it came in it'll go away.

Again, perhaps, if DR has no reason to bring this into play it fits a lot of the season, if there is a reason, it might just fit into the character's development.

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Logan has become a stable part of her life and - although he's anything but nornal (as in Dean-like normal aka boring) their relationship has hit a point where nothing much will happen btw them, for a little while. They have their own goals to pursue - which will affect their relationship of course, just like it happened when Logan went to London - but unless they get married they'll be in a stable limbo for a while.
The beginning was rocky and exiciting, the gettin' together was exciting and the becoming boyfriend and girlfriend was exciting because it was the first time for Logan.
Now they are settling down a little - although there's still plenty of room for excitement, like we see in the first half of the season - so she sits in a class and a cute and smart guy makes a remark that gets her attention.

Beside: with her granfather still recovering all she will want is stability.[/i]

Then why is it supposed to happen after Richard's illness?

Sandlynn · 01-23-2007, 09:44 AM

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You know my theory that the things he says during the lecture impress Rory. You don't have to be a post-doc to be intelligent and smart, to have good opinions and know how to talk.

Well, I wasn't suggesting that a graduate student can't be intelligent and smart. Hey, I was one!

What I'm saying is that universities don't usually let grad students teach classes all on their own, especially classes involving upper level students. 1) It costs a fortune to go to a school like Yale. Parents expect their little darlings to be taught by people with qualifications, not someone who doesn't have a Ph.D. or the equivalent, i.e., Richard's type of experience. (Hey, as a student, I wouldn't be happy about that either!) 2) Also, it's competitive to teach at Yale. They don't have to resort to a T.A. They could find very qualified people to step in.

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Plus, as far as I remember Richard just holds classes, but there are no test with them or stuff.

I didn't know there were no tests or requirements? How do you judge the students and grade them? (I thought Richard mentioned something about that.)

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Beside: with her granfather still recovering all she will want is stability.

Then why is it supposed to happen after Richard's illness?

That's what I want to know. Upsetting her personal life at that point seems like the last thing Rory would be looking to do. Logan's the one bit of stability in her life, with Richard ill, her parents splitting, and her own impending graduation from college.

fox24 · 01-23-2007, 09:48 AM

Richard said in 7.05 that the T.A is the one who grades the assigments and tests

Riska · 01-23-2007, 10:02 AM

^^ Thanks fox, so I mixed it up, it's just that Richard doesn't give grades but has others do it for him

Sry.

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That's what I want to know. Upsetting her personal life at that point seems like the last thing Rory would be looking to do. Logan's the one bit of stability in her life, with Richard ill, her parents splitting, and her own impending graduation from college.

I doubt Rory will say: "Mmh, let's see, what to do today? Oh, yes, let's get a crush on that smart TA with the marvelous butt", but it just happens, you can't control such things. Besides, he knows Richard and even takes over his classes, well, I'm not suggesting that Rory has a problem Freud would love to analyse, still this crush fits to the happenings in her private life imo.

leonana · 01-23-2007, 10:09 AM

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It was an honest and thoughtful answer to your question, in what I thought was a discussion. Different POVs aren't automatically condescending, yet everyone gets lumped into one group and it's assumed they are.

<note to self: don't engage>

It was an honest and thoughtful answer. I enjoyed your discussion very much.

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Oh, yes, let's get a crush on that smart TA with the marvelous butt", but it just happens, you can't control such things.

That's true. I'm happily married, and have an intense crush on Luke! Seriously, I have been attracted to other men while married.

However, it's not something I want to watch on tv with my favorite couple. If Lorelai had an intense crush on someone while with Luke, I'd be yelling for Luke to dump her.

Mag13 · 01-23-2007, 10:11 AM

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I'm getting the impression that Rory will learn that sometimes you can be deeply in love with one person and still have feelings for another.

Maybe own experience helps Rory to understand Lorelai's split feelings much better finally?