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Old 01-21-2007, 08:38 PM
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What I would be concerned with is Rory making the same mistake her mother is making because of the relationship she has had with her father. She was angry at Logan and wrote a scathing article about people like him (and her) instead of dealing with him directly.
Rory wasn't upset with Logan at all, she was upset with Lorelai since she went to the party right after finding out that her mother got married without her. She let her anger go into her writing and was shocked when Logan thought the article was insulting to him. She thought the article was fun and frothy instead of mean. After Lucy and Olivia told her she was mean she apologized to Logan.
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hey everyone! wow i havent been on this board since the last episode aired .. thats sad !
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:54 PM
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Sorry lemon tart, but I won't LIGHTEN UP about that post. Jason wasn't just referencing a "serial rapist". The guy was arrested for kidnapping and sexually abusing young boys, a pediophile. Show me a post where "we" compared Christopher to anything that vile.
Actually, icytiger definitely called Chris a rapist and none of the JJs disagreed with her.

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I believe icy Tiger once compared Chris to the Holocaust. (To be fair, I could be wrong, but I think it was her and the comparison was vile)
That, too.

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The hypocrisy that permeates this thread is really ....jaw dropping. I've had my ass kicked hard in this thread and not one single solitary SOPHIE ever said anything about it except how great it was that I was getting my ass kicked.

So, no I don't think I will drop the subject. Because I am pissed off.

Ciaobella has actually contributed spoilers to this thread, along with enthusiasm and a great sense of humor. If I were her, I'd never give you guys any spoiler information ever again. I suspect she's nicer than I am.

Chris is a jerk. Every time my husband sees him on screen - he says :that jerk again??!! He doesn't feel sorry for Chris at all. And I've had my own heart stomped on, too, and I don't feel sorry for him.

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Why does Chris get a pass from so many of you? Because he's sorry now he wasn't around for Rory? That makes everything okay?
I really couldn't care less for spoilers from Ciao. So, if she really wants to keep them to herself, let her. It's much better than hearing every JJ "confirm" spoilers. Please. Do you really expect us to believe that here are 5 or 6 spoiler sources out there giving random internet posters spoilers? HA. We all know the truth - so don't be that naive. Besides, with all the foilers floating around, I'd rather not hear any spoilers anyway.

It's funny how you are claiming that we should just believe a spoiler because Ciao gave it and had at least 2 or 3 people "confirm" it. *snort* Yet, when spoilers were released about April, LC together in Partings, etc., many of you REFUSED - flat out REFUSED to believe them. Hell, some of you are still believing that the LC marriage is illegal. HA. It's funny how you complain that we should appreciate and right out believe spoilers when your "group" can't do the same.

As for Chris - everyone deserves a second chance. And, if Rory is willing to give him a chance, so be it. She is much better than all of the rest of the people who scream that he doesn't deserve that. You may think so, but Rory sure as hell doesn't. And - for that matter - neither does Lorelai.

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Oh, me too. Me too.
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How bout you and your crowd stop acting like you are the only ones allowed to be fans of Rory and Logan. I am as big ****ing fan of those two as you are, and in part because of my great fondness for Rory, I don't like her lazy, good for nothing father who had "other commitments" all during her youth. In fact. I don't see how you can call yourself a true Rory fan if you think Chris is really a great guy with a good heart.
I don't see you can call yourself a true Rory fan if you think that she doesn't deserve the chance to have a relationship with her father since she is willing to give him the chance.

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yeah as if we make them up to piss you off. are you serious? she cant decide which stuff she gets to know. be grateful to get spoiler and do not attack the messenger.

truth be told. LL have the bigger storyline this season. people who have the opportunity to get to know something ask for it (especially when they are JJs) plus you only get to know the news your source tells you.

when there are no RL spoiler people cant bring them over.

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Please, do me a favor and stop replying to posts with just emoticons. It's ****ing annoying. Once is fine, twice is okay, the 58th time is just....
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What I would be concerned with is Rory making the same mistake her mother is making because of the relationship she has had with her father. She was angry at Logan and wrote a scathing article about people like him (and her) instead of dealing with him directly. In many ways I see Logan being good for Rory, but I hope he does not become her reason for exsiting as marriage had become for her mom. So it is also my hope that Lorelai has some alone time and begins to like herself again, this however would not come at a small price for Christopher and herself, because I do not see Christopher as being anymore selfaware as the lot of them. But I hope he will come to see that what he wanted was never what Lorelai wanted, even at sixteen.
What? Did you watch that episode? Rory wasn't angry at Logan, she was angry at Lorelai. If she was angry at Logan and I happened to miss it, do point it out.
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:56 PM
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So maybe this whole Chris thing was a result of that Perfect Storm that she referred to in 701. A combination of losing faith in herself and losing the love of her life, Luke. Chris was there at the right time and the right place. It had nothing to do with some unresolved closure between the two of them, it was all about Chris taking advantage of the perfect oppurtunity to re-enter Lorelai's life. No, he didn't put a gun to her head. But what decent, good friend wouldn't question whether or not she was really ready for another relationship so soon after breaking up with her fiance, and in such a messy and heartbreaking way too. I still say when she arrived at his door at the end of Partings, he knew just hours ago that she was still engaged to Luke. She was in a very pained and fragile state. And he wouldn't give up after that either. Not with the phone calls or that pathetic speech at the end of 703.

If anyone will reap what they sow, it will be Christopher.
Lorelai is certainly many things, but NOT the victim.

SHE dumped Luke. She was not dumped by Luke, nor did he cheat on her, beat on her, ignore her or give her any other reason for her to dump him. She thought about it for a couple of days and even talked to Dr Lynnie. Conversely, she wouldn't give Luke even 5 minutes to think things through. Luke was simply a nonfactor in the events--as was shown the next day when he acceeded to ALL of Lorelai's terms except decide in 10 seconds or less.

From Lorelai's perspective there should have been nothing heartbreaking about the breakup--SHE orchestrated it at the time of HER choosing in the manner SHE selected.

There should have been no "pained and fragile state" on Lorelai's side: everything was HER doing, when SHE chose to it, in the manner SHE wanted things done. Including HER deciding to go to Chris's house.

No one took advantage of Lorelai in "Partings," SHE called all the shots. And based on how she treated Luke, probably giving Chris little/no time to decide.

BTW, Luke didn't give Lorelai up after she dumped him: he showed up at her house ready to marry her. Not different from Chris.

The ONLY ONE sowing anything in Partings was LORELAI.
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:57 PM
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Ready for the Global Promo for 7:10? I'll be done transcribing very soon.
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:01 PM
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Ready for the Global Promo for 7:10? I'll be done transcribing very soon.
There's a new Global promo? I assume you mean for ep. 7.11, right?
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Global 7:11 Promo – aired Sunday, January 21, 2007

Promoguy: On the next Gilmore Girls.

Scene: Lorelai has on a black tartan like coat with a white scarf around her neck as she is about to open the door to leave the CS.

Lorelai: [looking towards someone who's out of frame in the kitchen] I’m gonna run out for a sec. I’ll be right back.

Promoguy: Lorelai has a secret meeting with Luke

Scene: Fades to her sitting on the sofa at the DFI talking to Luke (as seen in the DC)

Scene: Lorelai and Rory are sitting at a table having finished eating (could be lunch I guess). They are dressed in the red sweaters that we see them in at the CS and when they run into Luke and April at the mall.

Rory: [Lorelai is placing some money on the table and as she is putting something back in her purse] Why are you lying to dad? [Lorelai looks up from her purse at Rory]

Scene: Rory still dressed in the red sweater is sitting at the kitchen table. Fades to Lorelai and Christopher standing in the kitchen with smiles on their faces. Christopher has his arm around Lorelai’s shoulder and is rubbing it. Seems like they are looking at Rory who’s out of frame.

Promoguy: What is she hiding from Christopher?

Scene: Lorelai and Rory are standing on the streets of Stars Hollow (as seen in the DC) with a close up of Loreali as she’s talking to Rory. We just see an outline of Rory’s head.

Lorelai: Sometimes the truth is a little more complicated.

Scene: Lorelai and Rory standing beside each other in the living room of the CS. (The scene in the DC with Rory in a black sweater and Loreali with the green and orange scarf around her neck.) It looks like they are both holding a gift. They both seem to be acting a bit awkward.

Promoguy: A new episode of Gilmore Girls. Tuesday at 9, 10 central on Global.



It seems to me like her meeting with Luke at the DFI was preplanned. No video on the website as yet.

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Your right, but what can they do in 9 episodes? I'm going from 7.13. Will she be as cold to Chris when she ends it as she was with Luke? Probably not, because of Rory, but who knows.
IMO part of the reason she wants to end it now is so there WONT be enemies and to avoid problems with Rory, does that make sense? She knows how she ending things with Luke was the wrong way and avoiding Luke didn't end her feelings for him.

What I find interesting is if she ends this thinking Luke doesn't Love her then does that mean she admits her feelings for him soon?Most people don't care if someone loves them if they don't love them also. Is that to simple?
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:06 PM
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Do you really expect us to believe that here are 5 or 6 spoiler sources out there giving random internet posters spoilers? HA. We all know the truth - so don't be that naive. Besides, with all the foilers floating around, I'd rather not hear any spoilers anyway.
I find this to be incredibly rude. My source is not the same as Ciao's or anyone else's. And this is not the same person who gave me the "Richard is going to die" foiler, so don't even think about throwing that in my face.
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I really couldn't care less for spoilers from Ciao. So, if she really wants to keep them to herself, let her. It's much better than hearing every JJ "confirm" spoilers. Please. Do you really expect us to believe that here are 5 or 6 spoiler sources out there giving random internet posters spoilers? HA. We all know the truth - so don't be that naive. Besides, with all the foilers floating around, I'd rather not hear any spoilers anyway.

In trying to keep up the theme that this is a discussion thread, I will keep this a low keyed as I can, but that post is totally uncalled for. If you don't like spoilers, then why post here. You may vent your venom elsewhere. Ciao is a good person & works hard to keep ALL of us informed.
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Global 7:11 Promo – aired Sunday, January 21, 2007

Promoguy: On the next Gilmore Girls.

Scene: Lorelai has on a black tartan like coat with a white scarf around her neck as she is about to open the door to leave the CS.

Lorelai: I’m gonna run out for a sec. I’ll be right back.

Promoguy: Lorelai has a secret meeting with Luke

Scene: Fades to her sitting on the sofa of the DFI talking to Luke (as seen in the CW promo)

Scene: Lorelai and Rory are sitting a table having finished eating (could be lunch I guess). They are dressed in the red sweaters that we see them in at the CS and when they run into Luke and April at the mall.

Rory: [Lorelai is placing some money on the table and as she is putting something back in her purse] Why are you lying to dad? [Lorelai looks up from her purse at Rory]

Scene: Rory still dressed in the red sweater is sitting at the kitchen table. Fades to Lorelai and Christopher standing in the kitchen with smiles on their faces. Christopher has his arm around Lorelai’s shoulder rubbing it. Seems like they are looking at Rory who’s out of frame.

Promoguy: What is she hiding from Christopher?

Scene: Lorelai and Rory are standing on the streets of Stars Hollow (as seen in the CW Promo) with a close up of Loreali as she’s talking to Rory. We just see an outline of Rory’s head.

Lorelai: Sometimes the truth is a little more complicated.

Scene: Lorelai and Rory standing beside each other in the living room of the CS. (The scene in the CW promo with Rory in black sweater and Loreali with the green and orange scarf around her neck.) It looks like they are both holding a gift. They both seem to be acting a bit awkward.

Promoguy: A new episode of Gilmore Girls. Tuesday at 9, 10 central on Global



It seems to me like her meeting with Luke at the DFI was preplanned. No video on the website as yet.
Now that's a PROMO, and it sounds like the EPB is up to his old tricks, we know the meeting was not planned we have the DC clip.

Thank you for doing that
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Thanks 2ggObsessed. Sounds like manipulation -- don't we already know Luke turns up unannounced at the DFI?
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Interesting. Rory is NOT siding with Lorelai vs Chris.

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There should have been no "pained and fragile state" on Lorelai's side: everything was HER doing, when SHE chose to it, in the manner SHE wanted things done. Including HER deciding to go to Chris's house.
Clearly, she was in a pained and fragile state -- pre ultimatum and post ultimatum. It doesn't matter that she called the shots in Partings. It doesn't change that she was emotionally distraught. That's like saying the person who initiates a breakup is immune to the devastation that is involved in a breakup. It hurts no matter what.

ETA: Thanks 2ggobsessed for the transcript! I think the secret meeting part is manipulation -- because when Luke shows up at the DFI, it seems very unannounced. Plus, he says "I'm sorry to barge in like this..."
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Interesting. Rory is NOT siding with Lorelai vs Chris.

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Really is interesting, given what's been told about ep 14. She seems to be advocating honesty.

Thanks for the transcript, 2ggobsessed.
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