Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #136 ~ Someone Call Rory and Ask How She's Doing - Page 6

lilmelodie · 01-11-2007, 11:24 AM

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I would seriously be giddy if they showed us this double date. I think I would adore a well written conversation between Logan and Lane.

With regard to the bolded, you're probably right. But Paris and Doyle annoy him too and he regards them with bemusement. He's always been respectful to Rory's friends.

Oh, I don't think that Logan would be rude. It would probably be more how he feels about Paris and Doyle. More annoyingly amused, if that makes sense.

gilmorebrazil · 01-11-2007, 11:25 AM

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I've thought of one way that they can tie the silly Marty/Lucy storyline to the TA storyline. What if a disgruntled and spurned Marty witnesses Rory's little crush on the TA and informs Logan of it? Sort of a payback and to make trouble "in paradise". I also thought that maybe Lucy would "inadvertently" do it, but I guess that all depends on how she ends up feeling about Rory, i.e., whether she remains angry or, if not, whether she just blabs about it in conversation without meaning any harm.

I took from Krysten Ritter interview that Lucy and Rory would be friends again, so I don't expect Lucy to say something to Logan about the TA. And Marty walking to Logan and saying in his face about Rory's crush on the TA??? Could be

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The same thing could happen with Paris revealing the information in front of Logan, making some sort of crack about the possibility of "other paramours" staying at their apt, per the provision in their lease.

That I can see and probably would play for comedy.

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Oh, I don't think that Logan would be rude. It would probably be more how he feels about Paris and Doyle. More annoyingly amused, if that makes sense.

I still can't picture a scene with Logan and Zach. But with Lane I expect him to talk easely like he did with Lucy, since she can also be funny. And it should be the same way with Brian or even Gil.

Sandlynn · 01-11-2007, 11:30 AM

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I took from Krysten Ritter interview that Lucy and Rory would be friends again, so I don't expect Lucy to say something to Logan about the TA. And Marty walking to Logan and saying in his face about Rory's crush on the TA??? Could be

I'm actually not thinking that it would be that blatant, but if Marty happened to run into Logan, I could see him making a snide remark at Logan. If he didn't run into him -- because Logan's not hanging much at Yale anymore -- Marty could just create his own little "To Whom It May Concern" message, only via the phone or email.... Would a guy even do that?

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That I can see and probably would play for comedy.

Yeah, I agree.

TheJSW · 01-11-2007, 12:15 PM

A certain type of guy would do that. However, the TA, has to be played for more comedic effect. If Rory's therapy worked that way. Hopefully a silly ****ing crush works that way as well.

Oh yeah, while I am at it. Hi rest of the thread. Hope you are having fun. Wherever you are...

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Tara Ashley · 01-11-2007, 12:26 PM

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I'm actually not thinking that it would be that blatant, but if Marty happened to run into Logan, I could see him making a snide remark at Logan. If he didn't run into him -- because Logan's not hanging much at Yale anymore -- Marty could just create his own little "To Whom It May Concern" message, only via the phone or email.... Would a guy even do that?

Yeah, I agree.

Eh..not the kind of guy I thought Marty was. He's not that low, is he? Going back to the Lane thing, how do you think Rory will react when she visits Lane and the babies? Do you think she'll be there for the birth? I think it would be a good tie in if, when Rory visits Lane and the babies, Lane says something like "this will be you someday" and it helps turn the wheels in Rory's head about the future. Or maybe it could be more subtle. I don't know. But it would be a good place to "call Rory and ask how she's doing".

lancer1993 · 01-11-2007, 12:31 PM

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I rarely post on this board (frankly you guys are a little too intense for me), but the title of the thread drew me in. So, here goes. I just have to ask - is anyone else as frustrated as I am that Rory's big crisis this season seems to be dealing with a re-hash of the Marty situation? It's bad enough that Lorelai's storyline is so regressive. Did we really have to take Rory on a walk down "what-could-have-been" lane too? It would make watching the show much less difficult if we could have a little less wallowing in the mire that is L/L/C, and have a more straighforward and focused storyline for Rory - one that shows her actually dealing with her insecurities regarding her future (with or without Logan), her upcoming graduation (don't imagine she'll be valedictorian this time!) and the mess her mom is in and how it really affects her. Right now, the only decent storyline in the show, in my opinion, is Luke's story. I know some of you seem to resent the amount of time spent on it but, in my opinion, it's the only storyline that is remotely logical and well done this year.

Frankly, like many of you, I had hoped for more during Season 7, considering it really is probably the last season of the show. I had always thought that Season 7 would be mostly about Rory and watching her go out into the world, with hopefully some indication that Lorelai had grown up, learning how to be in a real commited relationship with her best friend (but with the focus more on Rory's journey than on Lorelai's, at that point). I also wanted a serious treatment of Lorelai's relationship with her parents. Obviously, not to be. We'll probably get cursory nods to all of that, but considering how "well" things have gone during the first 10 episodes, I seen no real way that these issues will be able to be addressed in any truly satisfactory way by the end of this season. It certainly seems too late for Lorelai's situation to be resolved in any sort of coherent fashion, but, here's hoping that at least Rory gets some serious, non-fluffy attention from the writers soon - before it's too late to fix any part of this mess.

Great post and I agree the season has been lacking a lot and mainly 'cause of the time spend on the EIF, sorry but they have waisted about half the season so far on a SL that has been planed to fail from the start! How are viewers meant to invest in a character if by ep 13 they will be gone, this is not season 1 or 2 it's maybe the last season a time to tie up lose ends and have a hopefully happy ending after 7 season!

I think the problem with this thread is the show is not after us, they know we will watch (most of us) they are after the 4 to 5 million other viewers who may turn off at any moment if they get board.

ETA - Jason nice avi, Marty up soon

Tanja yep lots on tonight Men in Trees, Grey's Anatomy, Ugly Betty, Scrubs, My Name is Earl, The OC, Smallville and Supernatural. Also Jason I'm giving 30 Rock a go, only see the pilot yet but I'll see how I like the rest.

caf123 · 01-11-2007, 12:35 PM

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I rarely post on this board (frankly you guys are a little too intense for me), but the title of the thread drew me in. So, here goes. I just have to ask - is anyone else as frustrated as I am that Rory's big crisis this season seems to be dealing with a re-hash of the Marty situation? It's bad enough that Lorelai's storyline is so regressive. Did we really have to take Rory on a walk down "what-could-have-been" lane too? It would make watching the show much less difficult if we could have a little less wallowing in the mire that is L/L/C, and have a more straighforward and focused storyline for Rory - one that shows her actually dealing with her insecurities regarding her future (with or without Logan), her upcoming graduation (don't imagine she'll be valedictorian this time!) and the mess her mom is in and how it really affects her. Right now, the only decent storyline in the show, in my opinion, is Luke's story. I know some of you seem to resent the amount of time spent on it but, in my opinion, it's the only storyline that is remotely logical and well done this year.

Frankly, like many of you, I had hoped for more during Season 7, considering it really is probably the last season of the show. I had always thought that Season 7 would be mostly about Rory and watching her go out into the world, with hopefully some indication that Lorelai had grown up, learning how to be in a real commited relationship with her best friend (but with the focus more on Rory's journey than on Lorelai's, at that point). I also wanted a serious treatment of Lorelai's relationship with her parents. Obviously, not to be. We'll probably get cursory nods to all of that, but considering how "well" things have gone during the first 10 episodes, I seen no real way that these issues will be able to be addressed in any truly satisfactory way by the end of this season. It certainly seems too late for Lorelai's situation to be resolved in any sort of coherent fashion, but, here's hoping that at least Rory gets some serious, non-fluffy attention from the writers soon - before it's too late to fix any part of this mess.

Great post! I started bolding but kept finding more and more things to bold. I think I agree with just about everything you said. Thanks for your succinct and insightful summation of this season.

I'm also disappointed - and agree there's still time for Rory to get some 'serious, non-fluffy attention'. I also agree it's too late for Lorelai. At best she and Luke will reconcile, at least to some degree, and - well by now, I just try not to think about how far backwards her story has gone. We once thought they'd take her story further, now it will be a miracle if they even catch up.

One more thought - the writers still have time to also show some progress with Richard and Emily. It's not too late to let the three generations of Gilmores communicate, and even reach some degree of understanding. This might be something else we can still hope for - if the writers are willing.

Sandlynn · 01-11-2007, 12:54 PM

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Eh..not the kind of guy I thought Marty was. He's not that low, is he?

Well, he was sitting pretty there for a while, hanging with his girlfriend AND his crush. Now, he may have "lost" them both, and of course, in his eyes, it's all Logan's fault.

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Going back to the Lane thing, how do you think Rory will react when she visits Lane and the babies? Do you think she'll be there for the birth? I think it would be a good tie in if, when Rory visits Lane and the babies, Lane says something like "this will be you someday" and it helps turn the wheels in Rory's head about the future. Or maybe it could be more subtle. I don't know. But it would be a good place to "call Rory and ask how she's doing".

Rory has never seemed to compare herself against Lane. They just seem to operate in separate orbits.

TheJSW · 01-11-2007, 01:19 PM

Let me once again emphasize the point that Nola's sister made. Since I feel that it best describes this season. Yes, it could be seen as a regressive season. However, in a way, it's a very reflective season. This is a season that's very much about the past as well as the issues that both girls have not addressed. This whole season seems to be about putting a mirror up to Lorelai and Rory, and having them dealing with their shenanigans. At least it seems that way at the current time.

2ggObsessed · 01-11-2007, 01:28 PM

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I'm actually not thinking that it would be that blatant, but if Marty happened to run into Logan, I could see him making a snide remark at Logan. If he didn't run into him -- because Logan's not hanging much at Yale anymore -- Marty could just create his own little "To Whom It May Concern" message, only via the phone or email.... Would a guy even do that?

I can’t figure out yet what Marty’s return is meant to signify. I can’t say he came back to cause friction between Logan and Rory because I think that’s what the TA is for. I don’t think Marty would drop any innuendos to Logan about Rory’s crush on the TA because how would he know about it; certainly not from Rory. After the fiasco of keeping their friendship secret from Lucy, I don’t think Rory would trust him to tell him about her feelings for the TA and I would certainly hope that Lucy or Olivia would not betray her trust if they knew about it.

Marty’s only connection so far with Rory is through Lucy and if Rory and Lucy are going to remain friends, maybe the purpose of this SL is about Rory’s ability to build new friendships/relationships that are based on honesty and trust and not being afraid to be true to herself in the face of adverse/problematic situations and confronting them instead of running away from them???

Maybe Logan himself overhears Rory sharing her confidence with Lucy or Olivia about her feelings for the TA.

Sandlynn · 01-11-2007, 01:48 PM

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I can’t figure out yet what Marty’s return is meant to signify. I can’t say he came back to cause friction between Logan and Rory because I think that’s what the TA is for.

Marty has already caused friction between Rory and Logan:

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LOGAN: So what? You guys have been hanging out?

RORY: No. No, I mean, just when he's around with Lucy.

LOGAN: So you have been hanging out.

RORY: Just with Lucy.

LOGAN: So why the secrecy?

RORY: I told you, I was caught off guard.

LOGAN: No, with me. Why did you never mention that you and Marty were hanging out again?

RORY: Oh I just didn't think it mattered.

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LOGAN: A little brotherly advice -- tell her sooner rather than later.

RORY: Yeah, I will. I'll figure something out. We don't have to go to dinner with them though. I can cancel that.

LOGAN: No, it's fine. We can go to dinner. Unless there's something on your end.

RORY: No. Logan, god, no.

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RORY: What is wrong with you?

LOGAN: I was asked a direct question. I'm not gonna lie. She's a nice girl.

RORY: Yeah, I know she's a nice girl. She's my friend.

LOGAN: You were gonna tell her anyway.

RORY: Not here. Not like this. You totally humiliated her.

LOGAN: Lucy's humiliated because of what you and Marty did to her, not me. I told her the truth, which is something she could use more of from her supposed friend and her boyfriend.

RORY: I can't believe you're trying to justify this. What you did was so obnoxious.

LOGAN: I was just being honest. I'm just gonna head back into the city tonight. I've got a lot of work to do tomorrow.

RORY: Fine.

Finally, in DR's earlier interviews he point blank said that Marty would cause problems between Rory and Logan, although not the kind we anticipate, meaning I assume, Rory wouldn't be falling for Marty.

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I don’t think Marty would drop any innuendos to Logan about Rory’s crush on the TA because how would he know about it; certainly not from Rory. After the fiasco of keeping their friendship secret from Lucy, I don’t think Rory would trust him to tell him about her feelings for the TA and I would certainly hope that Lucy or Olivia would not betray her trust if they knew about it.

I wasn't suggesting that she would confide in him (or in anyone), but that he might witness her with him. After all, he's the one that picked up on Logan's feelings for her and told her about them back in season 5.

Because of his interest in her, Marty has "Rory radar."

lilmelodie · 01-11-2007, 02:04 PM

Is FF looking weird to anyone else or is it just me?

fox24 · 01-11-2007, 02:06 PM

I just want to say that Lane is not considered to be left behind. Both Rory and Lane have their own seperate lives, Lane is living her own seperate life just like Rory true its not the life I wanted for her but its still a life. However, whenever they get together they are still the friends of the past, and whenever Rory comes to Starshollow most of the time Lane is the second person she appears to spend time with after Lorelai. Not, Luke, Sookie, Kirk, etc.

lorelaisgirl · 01-11-2007, 02:28 PM

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Is FF looking weird to anyone else or is it just me?

I think it's just you.

I mean, it doesn't look weird to me. What are you looking at? A funny white page with font Times New Roman?

lilmelodie · 01-11-2007, 02:35 PM

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I think it's just you.

I mean, it doesn't look weird to me. What are you looking at? A funny white page with font Times New Roman?

It's not looking weird anymore. Apparently FF was spazzy.