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Old 01-12-2007, 09:07 AM
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I was thinking about Lorelai's proposal to Luke and to how she explained it to the shrink.
She said she knew all that about Luke since the beginning - that he is a real man, solid, protecting her and he gets her yadda yadda yadda.
But when she saw how much he cared for Rory, then she knew she wanted to marry him.

In 7.13 we'll see her in the hospital, worried about Richard. We'll also see Rory, scared to lose her beloved grandpa, consoled by Logan but not by her father.
I can see Lorelai be mad at Chris not because he left her alone - she's used to that - but because he wasn't there for his daughter when she needed him the most. In Forgiveness and Stuff Chris wasn't around, but that was normal, since he wasn't into their lives. Now they are a family - at least temporarily - and seeing Rory stood by her father - although not intentionally probably - will open her eyes.

I'm not saying this is gonna be the reason to break up, but I'm pretty sure it will be a part - even a small one, but still - in Lorelai's decision.
Coming directly after having written a reference letter for Luke outlining all his fatherly "qualities" (not to be misunderstood as me saying he's a good dad to Rory) and her argument with Christopher over said letter, the bold parts above are even more relevant to Lorelai and fresh in her mind. By Luke doing all the things she mentions, he was also being a support [indirectly] to Lorelai.

Lorelai is probably not thinking that Christopher knows that her father is ill, she’s thinking that Christopher is not there again to support his daughter [indirectly herself] when he’s needed the most even after their silly fight over the same issue.

And yes as you've mentioned this will be one of the contributing factors in her decision to leave Christopher.
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:09 AM
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TV GUIDE PODCAST JANUARY 11, 2007

DM = Daniel Manu
MA = Michael Ausiello
AC = Angel Cohn
MMcD = Maitland McDonagh

START 44.54

DM: Mike, we got a bunch of letters--- Gilmore has been on, like three seasons now, it seems. But we keep getting letters for you about it. First of all, a listener named Christine answer to question ‘Where does Lorelai get her coffee, if not at Luke’s’, she says she gets it at Weston’s, the Stars Hollow bakery and coffeeshop.
MA: Well, if you read Ask Ausiello today, also, in an upcoming episode we’ll also have Sookie bringing her coffee.
DM: Yes.
MA: From the diner.
DM: Yes.
AC: Ooohhh.
DM: Well, we got a letter about that.
MA: [at the same time] Big turning point. [/at the same time] Already?!
DM: Yes! We got a letter about that.
MA: Wow. They are fast!
DM: From Craig, who wrote us last week and I think started this whole conversation. He wants to know ‘What will Chris’ reaction be? Give us a hint, if you know’.
MA: To her having coffee from Luke’s?
DM: Yes. Is Chris that much of an [???] that he cares?
AC: What a schandal!
MA: I have no idea. But I do wanna clarify something, because someone wrote into Ask Ausiello, but I didn’t get a chance to run the letter; they wanted to know, if, during Richard’s health-crisis, if Christopher was--- is aware that Richard is even in the hospital. Because part of the thing is like, Luke steps up to the bat, Christopher doesn’t do anything.
DM: Is it Chris’ fault that he’s---
MA: Right.
DM: Yeah.
MA: And uhm, the fact is I don’t think he does know what’s going on.
DM: Oooohhh.
MA: Yeah. Still---
DM: Interesting.
MA: Still, he wasn’t there when she needed him.
DM: I--- You’re reviewing something that isn’t gonna air for, like, you know, how many months? Two?
MA: A couple.
DM: A couple of months.
MA: Maybe a month.
DM: Uhm, you’re like, hero of TV scoopage. […]
MA: Well, if they started airing some episodes I wouldn’t have to be doing critiques to that future episode.
DM: That’s true, that’s true. And I missed the Aerie Girls, so bring them back. Not!
[…]
DM: And Mike, two questions for you about Gilmore Girls related to Rory, one again from Craig, saying he thinks there’s been a lack of Rory-spoilers.
MA: Yeah, I’ve been getting that question a lot.
DM: Uhm, is she gonna graduate? What does she think about possibly her parents possibly splitting up? And will Chris be there at her graduation? Etcetera etcetera. Anything to tell us about Rory?
MA: Well, I’m--- Yes, Rory will graduate. I’m sure Christopher will be at the graduation. But the thing that’s coming up for Rory is that she’s gonna develope a crush on the professor that’s replacing Richard. Because, you know, Richard’s teaching at Yale.
DM: Right.
MA: So, when he goes into the hospital, a new professor is gonna come in and he’s, you know, some hot guy.
AC: What does he look like?
MA: Uhm, I don’t know.
AC: Who does he look like?
DM: I thought you mentioned casting? Maybe not.
MA: I don’t think I did mention casting.
DM: No. Is it cast yet, you know?
MA: Uhm, probably.
DM: Is it anybody we know.
MA: I don’t know who was cast. I guess I should follow up on that.
DM: Meh. If you want to. Don’t put yourself out there.
MA: So that’s what’s gonna be happening and uh you know, she’s gonna be in the hospital when, you know, her grandfather is there too, so. I don’t know.
DM: And uh, a listener named uh---
MA: Totally messed up, my a$$ [???]
DM: ---Ali---
AC: You’re--- he’s just writing Gilmore Girls in the closet, like, this is what I think is happening.
DM: Well, somebody is.
AC: “Dear David, this is what I think should happen. This is what I told people was happening. Go with that.”
DM: Uhm, a listener named Ali, or possibly Ali, says, “Could Mike be sure to spoiler us for a Logan/Rory engagement in advance, like he did with the Lorelai/Christopher elopement; so I can be sure to have a leftover Pepto ready. Somebody doesn’t want Logan and Rory getting engaged.
AC: What’s not to like about Logan and Rory? I think they’re kinda sweet.
DM: I think that would suck too, actually.
AC: I don’t know.
MA: Well, they’re not gonna get engaged, I think that would be a bad move. I like them together too, but God.
DM: But what if this is the last season, though? Will they marry Rory off if this is the last season, you think?
MA: No, what do you think? That is too preposterous.
DM/AC: [semi-snicker] It’s preposterous.
MMcD: Is she gonna be a […]?
MA: At the finale of every comedy show, all the characters need to be married.
DM: That has been like sort of some finales operate.
AC: Do you think they have everybody have twins on 7th Heaven?
MMcD: Hey, all comedies end in a wedding.
DM: That’s true. But it’s a drama, it’s not a comedy.
MA: I think it would be a different wedding, I would assume it would be Luke and Lorelai.

END 48.58

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Old 01-12-2007, 09:12 AM
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i just finished readind the episode description for episode 7.12 and i'm anxious to hear lorelais response to chris when he asks her if he was her second choice.
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:12 AM
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I don't wish Rory and anything that's connected to her any bad. I couldn't care less about her. I can't wish something bad to something I'm not even interested in
If you couldn't care less about Rory or her storyline, then why does it matter to you if they get married?

By not wanting her to try to make it work with the one SHE loves, you ARE wishing her bad things.
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:13 AM
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Belated thanks to all:

Caf for the thread
Nicolalala for the Chin Chin info (so sad for Michel and Pau Pau, too)
little earthquake for the 7.12 ep. description (Sookie's recent odd behavior - could it be something else other than an unplanned, shocking pregnancy?)
Fuzzy for bringing the podcast info over (So Chris apparently, does NOT know why Lorelai is trying to get a hold of him all day. On the other hand, MA had also said Lorelai had changed her name to Hayden, basing it, I guess, on partial info like the end of FT .....)
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:15 AM
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MA always says "I think" "I guess"......he knows nothing more then we do...like I said, he´s an idiot....but thanks for the PC
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:18 AM
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If you couldn't care less about Rory or her storyline, then why does it matter to you if they get married?

By not wanting her to try to make it work with the one SHE loves, you ARE wishing her bad things.
read again, carefully: did I ever mentioned I don't want her to get married, did I used those words? did I implied that? NO, I only compared LL getting married to R/L getting married and left the question unanswered

And I did not say I don't want her to end with the ONE she loves. Cause from what I know and saw, she loved all the 3 guys she's been with.. it would be hard considering the law to be married to 3 guys...
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:20 AM
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Coming directly after having written a reference letter for Luke outlining all his fatherly "qualities" (not to be misunderstood as me saying he's a good dad to Rory) and her argument with Christopher over said letter, the bold parts above are even more relevant to Lorelai and fresh in her mind. By Luke doing all the things she mentions, he was also being a support [indirectly] to Lorelai.

Lorelai is probably not thinking that Christopher knows that her father is ill, she’s thinking that Christopher is not there again to support his daughter [indirectly herself] when he’s needed the most even after their silly fight over the same issue.

And yes as you've mentioned this will be one of the contributing factors in her decision to leave Christopher.
I can see it.
Chris going on about their fight and her lack of commitment, thinking only about their relationship.
And Lorelai going all mad and saying: "will you stop thinking about yourself, or us and focus on Rory? You weren't there, Chris, after you promised you would."

Tanja: or maybe MA has to be carefull so he blurs the info with all those "I think" and "maybe" to make it sound like it's his speculation...

Thanks Lorelaisgirl for the transcript.
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:22 AM
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gjoni, you have a PM.
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MA: And uhm, the fact is I don’t think he does know what’s going on.
I don't think - so he knows nothing Why am I not surprised
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Lorelai loves Chris - how is that loveless?
Yup. Which is why with the ep descrip I'm going back to my original thoughts, though I might get in trouble for voicing that. But this wouldn't be the first time a spoiler, even one "confirmed" by multiple sources, was wrong. I think Chris will initiate the breakup/divorce, not Lorelai. I really see no reason at this point for Lorelai to want to get out of the marriage.

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I don't think Lorelai even knows what love is. She's contradicted herself too many times.
Very, very true. Like S1 & S2 when she talks about loving Chris. I think she, @ 39 has no clue what love between a man & a woman really means or entails.
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read again, carefully: did I ever mentioned I don't want her to get married, did I used those words? did I implied that? NO, I only compared LL getting married to R/L getting married and left the question un answered
Yeah you did imply that, even said it.

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hmm who should get married and setle down:
a couple of , let's face it 'getting old' people who lived alone enought and who's biological clock is ticking
or a couple of young people who just started their lifes as adults and have everything before them and to whom a marriage would take away this opportunity..
man this is a day or hard, touth questions ?
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And I did not say I don't want her to end with the ONE she loves. Cause from what I know and seen, she loved all the 3 guys she's been with.. it would be hard considering the law to be married to 3 guys...
Well, then, that would be either Dean or Logan. She never out and out said she loved Jess and in fact told him to his face that she loved Logan. Just like she told Marty she preferred Logan to him. Since Dean's out of the picture, I guess that leaves Logan.

Using your reasoning, Lorelai should remain married to Chris because she's said she loves him multiple times.
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I see so many reasons for getting out of this "marriage"........and we still don´t know if it´s legal......damn...
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:26 AM
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Thanks for the podcast transcript, lorelaisgirl, just saw it!
Checking......
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Ok guys. I'm out, heading for my dance class.



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