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Old 01-08-2007, 10:12 AM
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Rory has this big crush, mostly of the intellectual kind, but it makes her realize that maybe she's too young to limit her options and committ to one relationship. Hopefully it doesn't particularily make her understand Marty because that was just icky wierd. Hopefully it makes her realize that she and Logan need to try thier wings a little more before they look at settling down.
IA. I think Rory has too many uncertainties about her life and her future right now to be in a committed relationship leading to marriage (at this time.) Her crush on the TA could be seen as another reason why she should wait until she is completely sure of what she really wants before she ties herself down in a relationship and then discovers it’s not what she really wanted (like her mother).

In AVV, she said that Logan “could be the one”. This showed that she was not completely sure that this was the case. I know that they have gone through a lot together and have still managed to remain strong as a couple, but that doesn’t mean that all her uncertainties have disappeared. We thought that after her drop out from Yale and her subsequent decision to go back she finally knew what she wanted in life but yet her uncertainties reared its head again in FT.

Moving out of Logan’s flat to become self reliant, the long distant relationship and her questioning of her future on her way to finding the answers are all steps leading to her personal self discovery and what she wants for herself.

Rory has always been seen as the more mature and level headed of the two girls so I don’t anticipate her to make the same mistakes that Lorelai made. She should take her time, figure out what she really wants, establish herself in her career and once this is done she can concentrate on marriage. I am not saying that she can’t have one without the other but until she is completely sure of what she wants in life she will not be completely satisfy with what she has and will always question herself. If she is not happy with her life and herself, suffice to say that any relationship she is in will not be a happy one. She only has to look at her mother to see the truth in this.

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Now I know I’ve probably opened a hornet’s nest by daring to say something which may be construed as negative about Rory’s current relationship but I hope you take what I have said in good faith not as a LL fan who is biased and hate her. You may wonder why a lot of the discussions focus on Lorelai and not much on Rory but it could be that “some” LL fans (like myself) are afraid to be honest about their opinions about Rory for fear of repercussions and try to avoid it as much as possible. As a LL fan, I feel more comfortable saying something that puts Lorelai in a negative light than I do about Rory.
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You know I was thinking that maybe Rory does tell Logan about the TA and how great he is (blah blah) and Logan encourages her to pursue the crush.

Too weird?
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IA. I think Rory has too many uncertainties about her life and her future right now to be in a committed relationship leading to marriage (at this time.) Her crush on the TA could be seen as another reason why she should wait until she is completely sure of what she really wants before she ties herself down in a relationship and then discovers it’s not what she really wanted (like her mother).

In AVV, she said that Logan “could be the one”. This showed that she was not completely sure that this was the case. I know that they have gone through a lot together and have still managed to remain strong as a couple, but that doesn’t mean that all her uncertainties have disappeared. We thought that after her drop out from Yale and her subsequent decision to go back she finally knew what she wanted in life but yet her uncertainties reared its head again in FT.

Moving out of Logan’s flat to become self reliant, the long distant relationship and her questioning of her future on her way to finding the answers are all steps leading to her personal self discovery and what she wants for herself.

Rory has always been seen as the more mature and level headed of the two girls so I don’t anticipate her to make the same mistakes that Lorelai made. She should take her time, figure out what she really wants, establish herself in her career and once this is done she can concentrate on marriage. I am not saying that she can’t have one without the other but until she is completely sure of what she wants in life she will not be completely satisfy with what she has and will always question herself. If she is not happy with her life and herself, suffice to say that any relationship she is in will not be a happy one. She only has to look at her mother to see the truth in this.

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Now I know I’ve probably opened a hornet’s nest by daring to say something which may be construed as negative about Rory’s current relationship but I hope you take what I have said in good faith not as a LL fan who is biased and hate her. You may wonder why a lot of the discussions focus on Lorelai and not much on Rory but it could be that “some” LL fans (like myself) are afraid to be honest about their opinions about Rory for fear of repercussions and try to avoid it as much as possible. As a LL fan, I feel more comfortable saying something that puts Lorelai in a negative light than I do about Rory.
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:37 AM
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This show has never allowed the girls smooth sailing in their relationships - I think it is the formula that writers stick with to supposedly keep it interesting - as they have told us time and again - we want something (i.e., L/L together) but then they say we will be unhappy if they stay together - so they throw in obstacles for the girls t to hurdle over.

In the 2 years since L/R have been together, they have broken up twice - been apart for significant times, lived together twice, been shown to be working it out, have flare ups - maybe the writers think that before the season ends, they need to put them through the ringer again to make it interesting. I find it kinda tiresome.

I wish the writers weren't throwing in another guy thing for Rory. I would like to see her maybe even toying with the idea of pursuing a different profession - and dabbling in something totally different while she figures out what she might want to do with her future. But, we get a crush.

I wonder if this TA too will fall at her feet...probably - the boys/guys do seem to turn to mush for the Gilmore Girls.
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You know I was thinking that maybe Rory does tell Logan about the TA and how great he is (blah blah) and Logan encourages her to pursue the crush.

Too weird?
No I had a similar thought today. Maybe Logan lets her go. Tells her she needs to figure out what she wants and who she wants in her life. He makes clear that she knows how he feels about her and that it's not going to change but she has to decide what she wants.
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My mind's gone blank and I can't remember the scene, so I can't relate it to Chris' situation.

As for Lorelai, doesn't she usually let her machine pick it up? Then if there is an emergency, she would know as she is listening to the message, as when she heard that Luke was in jail in S4. Wrt her cell phone, she does answer the phone when Emily calls, as in ESH. I'm pulling a blank on how many times she does ignore Emily's call, compared to when she answers. I'm guessing if Emily was calling all day long, she would pick up eventually.

Of course, knowing that Richard is in the hospital does color my perception somewhat. It seems to me the writers want me to think Chris is irresponsible, and I'm all too happy to oblige them, lol. He does have a history of being unreachable, at least in S1, so I suppose that also colors my perception.
After the BR episode, when Rory moved back in with Logan she acted very coldly towards him. She decided to take off to SH for the weekend and didn't bother telling Logan. He was trying to call her to find out where she was. He was concerned. Luckily, she kept checking in at the YDN for stuff and that's when he knew she was ok, just in SH. He still kept trying to call her, but she'd see his number on her caller ID and ignore it.

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And Capn, Sandylinn, you're not a spoiler messenger yourself so you don't know the complexities and rules of revealing spoilers. I feel compelled to defend our very kind spoiler friends but I don't want to lose my temper. You are making claims and assumptions when you do not know what happens behind closed curtains.
And, you are? You'd find it surprising to know who knows spoilers and who knows "info" that they interpret to suit their needs - aka foilers.

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I disagree and I think many miss the point completely!

No problem with spoiler withholding until it is OK.
No problem with spoiler withholding because...you don't feel like sharing.
No problem with you having a spoiler and sharing it with others.

What I personally have a problem with is spoiler teasing which is explicitly forbidden on these threads.


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As I mentioned on the R&L thread:

When *I* had to deal with close family members having strokes, heart attacks, cancer, the last thing I thought about was "romance" or how hot someone was. During these very emotionally wearing times, you're usually numb, walking around on auto-pilot just going from one responsibility to the next, without thinking. Half the time, you don't even bother taking care of yourself well -- not eating right, sleeping well, dressing yourself nicely. You're depressed and just trying to get by. This TA development, following immediately upon Richard's collapse makes Rory sound like she doesn't care about Richard at all. She gets right back on that horse enough to start flirting with a guy ... leaving aside the whole "having a supportive, loving boyfriend" issue. It makes Rory look as bad as Lorelai.
Like mother, like daughter. Too bad Rory is following in ALL her mother's footsteps. One would have hoped that she'd be smarter.

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Sounds like I missed one hell of an afternoon - for what it's worth I take a grain of salt to anything that might have been shared about a whole season before the season even started since tweaking is the name of the game when it comes to television and Gilmore Girls is no exception.

I'm late to the party but thanks Lauren for starting the thread. Good to have a non L&L fan starting one for a change! Seeing that Matt icon everytime I open the thread up is a delight
But... but... a certain poster said that she knew how the season was going to end one week BEFORE the season even started. Yes, that is said with sarcasm, because we all know that it's just naivety.

It is rather nice to open up the first post and see sexy-Matt, isn't it?

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The.bitterness.is.annoying.

I'm sure, in the future, I myself will be bitter. But just from a newbie's standpoint: the bitterness and sarcasm are very, I guess, discouraging. And make this thread no fun. At all.
It's rather too bad that you haven't been around long enough to know who the bitterness really comes from.

The thread is only fun when you make it fun - been like this for *counts on fingers* going on 2 years.

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Do we even know if the TA is just in 7.14 or does he come back ? I mean isn't it a bit strange that she develops an intense crush on someone in ONE episode I can't remember what the casting notice said but I think it didn't mention if it's a recurring part or not. I mean how much screen time can he have in that one episode ? Close to 10 minutes and Rory develops a crush on him during that short time
No mention of recurring. Rory is a quick mover (like her mother).

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Rory is probably wondering how she could be attracted to another when she loves someone. I think it is a feasible storyline. You don't stop looking at people as attractive just because you are in a relationship. Attractions can be instaneous and not easily or logically explained. If someone has attributes you admire, not just physical attractiveness, you might develope a crush. This does not mean she doesn't love Logan, but it could mean she is not ready to make a committment.
Isn't that contradictory? You said that being in relationships (I'm adding marriages to this, too) develop crushes on others. Then you say that it would mean that perhaps Rory is not ready to make a committment. What about those already in marriages? Is my marriage doomed - should I take a break - because I have a crush on Matt?

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This could actually be funny if she shares this with Logan. Most couples have that conversation and Rory is naive so...
Could be quite comedic just as my DH rolls his eyes at my attraction to Matt.

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My predictions - Rory has this big crush, mostly of the intellectual kind, but it makes her realize that maybe she's too young to limit her options and committ to one relationship. Hopefully it doesn't particularily make her understand Marty because that was just icky wierd. Hopefully it makes her realize that she and Logan need to try thier wings a little more before they look at settling down.
I thought the spoiler specifically said that it was NOT an academic crush but rather a romantic one.

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Don't be so sure, most people in Hollywood don't know how to spell loyalty. LG's potential production deals (tied into Gilmore Girls) have gotta be a pretty big incentive for her to continue...where is the incentive for AB??

There are already whispers that she is tired, frustrated and ready to move on and I don't blame her.
Didn't someone tell us (gossipcom?) that S8 is NOT dependent on LG's production deal. The dependency was fulfilled.

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No I had a similar thought today. Maybe Logan lets her go. Tells her she needs to figure out what she wants and who she wants in her life. He makes clear that she knows how he feels about her and that it's not going to change but she has to decide what she wants.
Wouldn't that be something? Logan - the self-proclaimed playboy - is the mature one. Much like he has been all season.
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No I had a similar thought today. Maybe Logan lets her go. Tells her she needs to figure out what she wants and who she wants in her life. He makes clear that she knows how he feels about her and that it's not going to change but she has to decide what she wants.
That's fudamentally the episode of The Twilight Zone that DSR made reference in 7.01: The Long Morrow
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Honestly at this point I think a Logan and Luke spinoff would be a grand idea as they have taken smart, witty women and reduced them to idiots.

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That's fudamentally the episode of The Twilight Zone that DSR made reference in 7.01: The Long Morrow
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Now I know I’ve probably opened a hornet’s nest by daring to say something which may be construed as negative about Rory’s current relationship but I hope you take what I have said in good faith not as a LL fan who is biased and hate her. You may wonder why a lot of the discussions focus on Lorelai and not much on Rory but it could be that “some” LL fans (like myself) are afraid to be honest about their opinions about Rory for fear of repercussions and try to avoid it as much as possible. As a LL fan, I feel more comfortable saying something that puts Lorelai in a negative light than I do about Rory.
Took the words out of my mouth.

I'm nervous for the GG news tomorrow. Anyone hear anything else about what it could be?

I'm still not convinced the TA crush will be as intense as it states in the spoiler. It just seems such a trivial thing to throw in RL's way, when they've faced much bigger obstacles in the near past. Any chances it could be nipped in the bud in one episode? I haven't been following the casting notices. Maybe she's alone with him and he comes on to her and she says no or something. Jess all over again, I guess. Or, could there maybe be some sort of time gap between ep 13 and ep 14? That would really be ideal. Except, then it would mean Lorelai telling Chris it's over is either off-camera or postponed. Yikes. This TA SL is a very poor SL, unless DR suddenly becomes super producer and wows us all with the execution of the upcoming SLs. And I'm not putting my money on it...

Iamsher, why does it matter where the bitterness came from? It matters where it is now.
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No I had a similar thought today. Maybe Logan lets her go. Tells her she needs to figure out what she wants and who she wants in her life. He makes clear that she knows how he feels about her and that it's not going to change but she has to decide what she wants.
I'd rather have this happen then sit through multiple triangles. The problem is that 1) the writers have shown no interest in focusing on Logan apart from his relationship with Rory; 2) the writers have shown a commanding inability to come up with an academic/career storyline for Rory; and 3) MC is still contracted for more episodes. So, invariably they will rub "our" noses in the TA, in Marty, and in some other random guy they'll probably dream up, with no payoff at the end. Fans of L&L had to put up with a lot but at least you always knew there was going to be a payoff. You always knew. R&L fans know no such thing. So, I'd rather they break up now and get it over with then stretch it out to the end of the season for that oh-so-precious and poignant farewell. You know, like a bandaid, rip it off quickly. Don't prolong the eyerolling.

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Now I know I’ve probably opened a hornet’s nest by daring to say something which may be construed as negative about Rory’s current relationship but I hope you take what I have said in good faith not as a LL fan who is biased and hate her. You may wonder why a lot of the discussions focus on Lorelai and not much on Rory but it could be that “some” LL fans (like myself) are afraid to be honest about their opinions about Rory for fear of repercussions and try to avoid it as much as possible. As a LL fan, I feel more comfortable saying something that puts Lorelai in a negative light than I do about Rory.
What repercussions? It's not as if somebody's going to track you down and sock you in the face. Look, if you have an opinion that might be construed as negative, you just gotta accept that some people won't like it and be willing to defend it. That's it. Nobody is stopping you from posting your "negative" opinion, but YOU.

As for all the Lorelai talk, that would happen no matter what response you got or what was happening on the show, because I have read time and time again on this board and elsewhere that people skip Rory scenes or don't care to spec about her because they find her boring and don't like her boyfriend.

But, when something negative is said about L&L -- especially Luke -- watch out!!! More than a few of you pop up and go ballistic. Does that make me any less likely to voice *my* "negative" opinion? No way! It's my opinion, and I voice it knowing I'll have to defend it vigorously, knowing I'll get this response. I don't necessarily like it -- I don't like confrontation believe it or not -- but what should I do? Pretend to have an opinion I don't? Anyway, that's what the MT has become *because* it is the place where everyone, with very varied opinions, posts.
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It's just that some posters are way harsher than others. But I know, suck it up. And I will. Eventually lol.
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It's just that some posters are way harsher than others. But I know, suck it up. And I will. Eventually lol.
That's just their nature.
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What repercussions? It's not as if somebody's going to track you down and sock you in the face. Look, if you have an opinion that might be construed as negative, you just gotta accept that some people won't like it and be willing to defend it. That's it. Nobody is stopping you from posting your "negative" opinion, but YOU.
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This is for Mitten.

ANNOUNCER: "In a world full of sin and desperation. Two men emerge to save those who cannot save themselves."

[Logan and Luke are in the cockpit of a speedboat. Logan turns to shoot at the three ninjas in a Vietnam era gunboat. Which has been suped up with NoS attached to a rather large outboard motor.]

LOGAN: "WHERE DID YOU PUT MY GRENADES?"

[With only one hand on the steering wheel. Luke fumbles around the cockpit for the grenades. HE finds them in a compartment between the passenger seats.]

LUKE: "Here are your damn grenades! Kill the ****ing ninjas already!"

[Logan is clearly agitated as he throws the grenades at the gunboat. Two of the grenades land in the water to the starbord and port sides of the gunboat. One lands in the wheelhouse in front of all 3 ninjas. They look at one another. Before the grenade detonates, destroys the boat, and throws the ninjas into three different directions. One can be clearly seen hitting the side of a cargo ship to the sound of a WILHELM SCREAM.]

LUKE [smiling]: "YEAH, THAT GOT'EM!"

[Luke and Logan give one another RESPEK KNUCKLES.]

ANNOUNCER: "In a world that has lost all a hope. They will be the ones to challenge those who harm the innocent."

[INT--DOMI PALACE: Luke and Logan are both in skin tight active camo body suits. As they stand in the grand hall of DOMI ASHI YI. They blend into the background with only their heads floating. As they prepare to put DOMI in his place.}

[Logan calls out DOMI.]

LOGAN: "DOMI! YOU WILL NO LONGER BE INVOLVED IN THE SEX AND SLAVE TRADES! YOUR TYRANNY ENDS...TONIGHT!"

[Luke turns to Logan, and gives him a rather perplexed look.]

LUKE: "What about the drugs?"

LOGAN: "What do you mean? The slave trade is a lot worse. He's just a pot dealer."

LUKE: "BUT IT'S A GATEWAY DRUG!"

LOGAN: "Luke; we can take DOMI down right now, save Morgan, and stop his slave trade. Which is operated here in his PALACE. The pot trade is ran out of Kentucky."

[Luke lowers his head, shakes it, and quickly raises it back up.]

LUKE: "Fine. But we will get to the pot trade."

LOGAN [assertively]: "If we get a 22 episode pick-up...sure."

[Logan looks at the camera and smiles.]

[This whole time: Domi has been standing with a knife to MORGAN'S neck. At certain points during Logan and Luke's argument. Domi and Morgan exchanged looks of exasperation. As DOMI shakes his head at the resolution of the argument. Morgan snaps his left hand, follows that with his arm, then quickly snaps his neck. She picks up the knife from his dead hand. As Luke and Logan are too distracted by her...beauty...to really focus on what she just did.]

MORGAN [annoyed]: "Eyes up here guys. EYES up here."

ANNOUNCER: "This FALL, the producers of NASH BRIDGES, THE WHITE SHADOW, THE A-TEAM, JAG, DHARMA AND GREG, HERMAN'S HEAD, THE NINE, INVASION, and GILMORE GIRLS. Bring you a show with so much balls out action. You're going to feel a pressure on your balls or ovaries everytime you watch this show."

[Logan and Luke are scene walking in slo-mo with a large explosion behind them. They both wear sunglasses, black suits, a blue and red shirt respectively (with the top three buttons unbottoned), and rather scruffy looking.}

ANNOUNCER: "THE CW PRESENTS...MATT CZUCHRY..."

[A freeze frame of Matt's face with the explosion behind him. Add large chrome letters for his name.]

ANNOUNCER: "SCOTT PATTERSON..."

[A freeze frame of Scott's face looking the opposite way of Matt, but the explosion still being visible behind him. Same chrome letters for his name.}

ANNOUNCER: "IN THE THRILL RIDE OF THE SEASON."

[A montage of scenes from the pilot, second, and third episodes. Chopped in such a way, that the audience will get tingly from the montages pace."

ANNOUNCER: "CATACYLISMIC...COMING THIS FALL TO THE CW."

[A random shot of Matt from episode 2.]

LOGAN: "Well...that was fun. Who do we kill next?"

[HUGE EXPLOSION}

END OF PROMO.

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