Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #132 ~ Where's the Love? - Page 7

icytiger8888 · 01-07-2007, 01:57 PM

Quick spec before I leave the house, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but, is it maybe possible that after Lorelai repeatedly calls Chris, she finds out that he is ignoring her calls? Helping to lead her to her epiphany in the long run about Luke in, Chris out?

lorelaisgirl · 01-07-2007, 01:59 PM

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Not usually, but now I'm craving a Slurpee! I know they have 7-11's in Europe, but do they have Slurpees?

Maybe other countries in Europe have 7elevens (I know Norway does), but the Netherlands doesn't. I'm gonna google Slurpee now. lol.

lancer1993 · 01-07-2007, 01:59 PM

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If you're talking about the poll, the poll doesn't ask whether or not we want something to happen; it asks what we think will happen. I don't want Christopher to ignore Lorelai's calls, but I think it's probable.

And I care a whole lot about Rory, and have said numerous times that I truly hope she and Lorelai can both maintain a relationship with Chris, post-divorce.

I agree about the poll and divorce,

...so now Rory will officially be from a broken home, wow she'll fit right in with the Chilton friends LOL

damselfly · 01-07-2007, 02:00 PM

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Thanks for the info. That opens up a few questions.

Like what? We knew Gigi was only away a few months, maybe she stayed over xMas but I thought she would be back, I just hope Chris doesn't used "what about Gigi" during the break up.

Like: When Chris goes off sulking, where is Gigi? Is she with him? Is she with the nanny? Does anyone know where he is? How long is he awol - is it the same day, overnight, a couple of days later?

Cappuccino · 01-07-2007, 02:02 PM

Thanks for the spoiler Nic and uh I love that

New questions indeed.

Who will bring her ? Is she already there or does she just arrive in that episode ? Is Chris in Paris over Christmas to celebrate with her and Sherry so he brings her back ? New Christmas traditions yes but the shopping event is just for the original family - why ? Just because Gigi is 4 or is she too annoying and Lorelai needs time away from her and just with her daughter ?
What is going to happen with Gigi when Chris is off sulking and Lorelai at the hospital ? What is he going to do with her when Lorelai asks him to pack his things - nice and friendly of course

How is Rory's room going to look like and what is she going to say about it ? Do they even remember that they wanted to change it ? Do we get so see w whole new CS inside ? We know Mr. Flatscreen moved in over the holidays so what else has changed ?

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Not usually, but now I'm craving a Slurpee! I know they have 7-11's in Europe, but do they have Slurpees?

Germany doesn't have both

lemon tart · 01-07-2007, 02:02 PM

Catching up from the last thread:

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you believe that Logan did not have a choice about following Mitchum's orders in going to London?!

I disagree with you there. Because Logan did have a choice. He could have chosen to stay behind. Granted it would have meant that Mitchum disowning him, but it is still a choice.

BTW, I'm not saying that I think Logan made the wrong choice be following Mitchum's dictate. Just wanted to point out that Logan did have a choice.

Yes, he had a choice to turn his back on his family, a la Lorelai or Jason, or to stay within the structure of his family, do something he knew he was good at and figure his life out. Personally I like that he stayed. Yes, he could have done whatever the hell he wanted, turned his back on not just his trustfund but Honor and the rest of his family as well. That would have been a smashingly mature choice.

People say they think Logan should have made it on his own, but I don't see anyone faulting Luke for turning his father's hardware store into a diner. That's taking something left to him and turning it into something that works for him. He didn't *earn* anything to get the diner, it was given to him. But family is important to Luke, so he carried on his father's legacy, and he's been there for Liz & Jess when they needed him through the years. Logan's relationship is a little more difficult, but I don't think anyone would say Honor isn't probably the second most important person in the world to Logan, behind Rory. So Logan's just supposed to turn his back on her, shun his family, so he can what? For the principle of the matter?

Once he made the choice, with Rory's support, to stay within the structure of his family's company, Mitchum controls where he works. Not Logan. That still remains a fact.

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Logan's "I'm forced to" bit kinda annoyed me. But I do like his current SL with the internet company and all. I'd like to believe that he could have acquired the company without the help of the "Huntsberger" name. Am I in fantasy land?

Yes. Rather than being a positive his surname would likely become a negative.

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Yup and I think even if MH refused to put the money up, Logan could still have found other investors.

How? As a 24 year old Yale graduate, with no backing, and disowned. You think he would have the same cache that he has with the backing of HPG? I think not. Logan got the aquistion because he has the backing of his family company, not in spite of it.

As for Rory's career, something that seems to be ignored, I think Jason brought it up, by those that want her to ignore Logan in any decision she might make, is where he's moved. If Rory were lucky enough to get a media related job in New York right out of college that would be absolutely amazing. But that's tainted because that's where Logan now lives? She's supposed to take a job in St. Louis or Dallas or somewhere else just so she can be independent? Or go to a second tier grad school if that's what she decides to do, not Columbia? The best school in her field. Since Logan's there? Rory's never been all career or all love life, part of what's missing this season, thus far its all been the latter. She's always, from the pilot, been a balance of the two. I would hope that continues.

lilmelodie · 01-07-2007, 02:03 PM

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Maybe other countries in Europe have 7elevens (I know Norway does), but the Netherlands doesn't. I'm gonna google Slurpee now. lol.

That's where I went to 7Elevens. In Norway and I think Sweden too. It's been a while since I was there. Slurpees are wonderful. As are Double Gulps. They helped get through more than one all-nighter in college. lol. (Oy, I have the eating habits of Lorelai and Rory.)

ETA: Lemon, I don't think anyone was saying that Rory shouldn't take a job in NY if she's lucky enough to get one there just because Logan is there. You are twisting our words. What we all have been saying is that she could end up in Chicago, LA, DC, Atlanta, Dallas, etc. and that she should take those opportunities because they could help her get to where she wants to be career wise. I think it was more of a what if she can't find a job in NY right away. What would she do if that happened?

2ggObsessed · 01-07-2007, 02:06 PM

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I'm still thinking it must be more than Chris just not being at the hospital, it just seems a little slack if they break up 'cause he's not there this one time...oh wait that already happened with Luke in Partings with April LOL

ITA

Yeah, I agree with you and catkirk7 that his not being at the hospital will not be the only thing that caused the breakup, that's why I had "possibly" in parenthesis. She is already beginning to see his immaturity and realizing that he has not really changed. If it turns out that he knew and chose not be there for her, this will most certainly be an unforgivable error of judgment on his part and could be the final catalyst in the destruction of their relationship.

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Maybe she just left her in the car and cracked a window LOL

I know bad joke and no one should leave kids or pets in the car no matter what time of year it is or the temperature.

I know it's a bad joke but I couldn't help but chuckle myself when I first read it. Obviously because I knew you weren't serious.

lancer1993 · 01-07-2007, 02:09 PM

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Uh-oh. This impending breakup is just going to get uglier and uglier, isn't it? First Chris is either going to be a horrible heinous character who deliberately abandons his wife and daughter, or else he's going to be--to a certain extent--a victim of circumstance who loses his wife because he was in the wrong place and the wrong time.

Now Gigi's involved, too. I was hoping that maybe she'd still be in Paris when Chris and Lorelai's marriage ended. But now this little girl, who's just spent a couple months in a foreign country with a mom she barely knew, is going to come home to find her living arrangements completely changed--new house, new stepmom and a much older half-sister she barely knows. Then, just when she begins to adjust--bang!--her father and new stepmom divorce and everything gets turned upside down again. Poor Gigi.

I understand that Chris and Lorelai can't stay together because...well, the stars have not ordained it. But in order to get these two together and then break them up, the writers are apparently going to make every single character involved into ridiculously immature, self-centred teenagers, or victims who are going to get deeply hurt. Thus far the "cracks" in Lorelai and Chris' marriage have come mostly from Lorelai being rude, selfish and pathetically clueless when it comes to compromise. I suspect when the episodes resume we'll see Chris go the same route, with an added jealous streak.

I really hate that they went this way with the SL and I hate that they are breaking them up like this and dragging the kids into it.

[best Simpsons voice] WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

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Aren't we supposed to like Lorelai? (And unlike many people, I want to like Chris, too.) But how am I supposed to admire two supposed adults who leap into marriage, have no clue how to deal with marriage, and quickly divorce, without any thought for others who might be affected along the way? The list of people who are going to be seriously hurt when their marriage ends...Rory, Emily, Richard...and now Gigi. I suppose the end of Lorelai/Chris might be good news for Luke...if he really still wants to be with Lorelai after all this. But of course, he will.

This is why a lot of people left last season, they didn't like the new Lorelai, she was to weak and now she doesn't know what she wants. Jumping into a marriage just to be happy and probably not wanting to turn 40 and be unmarried. Ironic that when Lorelai does turn 40 she'll most likely be divorced and yet to marry Luke.

So people just hate the new Lorelai.

BTW - we have 7Eleven stores here in Australia and for some reason more and more shopping centres are now being called "markets" like in the US.

catkirk7 · 01-07-2007, 02:10 PM

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If you're talking about the poll, the poll doesn't ask whether or not we want something to happen; it asks what we think will happen. I don't want Christopher to ignore Lorelai's calls, but I think it's probable.

And I care a whole lot about Rory, and have said numerous times that I truly hope she and Lorelai can both maintain a relationship with Chris, post-divorce.

I'm not.

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The rest was an observation on many many posts that HAVE expressed glee about the way this is ending without caring about how it effects Rory at all.

2ggObsessed · 01-07-2007, 02:10 PM

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Which is why I said "people" and not "you." The first part of my post was responding to you and why having Chris knowingly ignore the fact that Richard is in the hospital isn't the only "logical" way for things to play out. The rest was an observation on many many posts that HAVE expressed glee about the way this is ending without caring about how it effects Rory at all.

Ok. My bad! Thanks for the clarification.

colorblind · 01-07-2007, 02:10 PM

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Maybe she and Chris are in charge of decorating the house and Lorelai and Rory are in charge of shopping for Christmas-y stuff? Hmmm. It does seem kind of odd that they would split up.

good spec. but did GiGi came from Paris? didn't she stay there?

Cappuccino · 01-07-2007, 02:15 PM

@Nicolala - If you're still around do you know if Chris is in Paris over the holidays and brings Gigi back with him or who brings her back to Stars Hollow ?

lorelaisgirl · 01-07-2007, 02:17 PM

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@Nicolala - If you're still around do you know if Chris is in Paris over the holidays and brings Gigi back with him or who brings her back to Stars Hollow ?

I'm not Nicolalala, nor do I know the answer to either question, but: maybe the nanny picks GG up from Paris?

Ciaobella · 01-07-2007, 02:19 PM

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I guess we're not turning over a new leaf in this thread after all.Where are those people who are always complaining about people putting out red meat and waving red flags to cause disputes? Are they sleeping? (Yes, I know you would hope Jess would come back to cause maximum fan unhappiness to those you dislike. Oh ... and because he's the next John Barrymore.)

OH give me a break, Sandlynn. You mean I cannot express the fact that I'd love Jess to return to the show because you think I want to incite Logan fans? This is the MT, not the Rory/Logan Shipper Thread. I like Jess and Rory scenes. I like Luke and Jess scenes. I'd love to see him back for his mom and for Luke and Lorelai's wedding. I'd even love him back for Rory's graduation. Sorry that makes you uncomfortable but it's not my job to make you all warm and fuzzy. So either ignore my Jess posts or get a thicker skin, cos I'm going to continue to say I like Jess.

And I don't think MV is the next John Barrymore. He's the next Robert DeNiro.

Thanks for the confirmation about Gigi, Nicolalala. Poor, poor child.

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Which is why I said "people" and not "you." The first part of my post was responding to you and why having Chris knowingly ignore the fact that Richard is in the hospital isn't the only "logical" way for things to play out. The rest was an observation on many many posts that HAVE expressed glee about the way this is ending without caring about how it effects Rory at all.

catkirk, DR did say that Lorelai's actions would cause consequences for Rory, and this is what is happening. I think it stinks for Rory, I think it stinks for Gigi. But to tell you the truth, I sense an undercurrent of disapproval from Rory regarding her parents' marriage. I don't think she's buying it and I don't think she's going to be surprised when it ends. But this is on Lorelai and it's on Chris. I hope both of them work very hard to make amends to Rory following the breakup. Especially Chris, since he seemed to not take her feelings into consideration at any point during the elopement or the marriage.