Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #132 ~ Where's the Love? - Page 6

damselfly · 01-07-2007, 01:27 PM

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That’s interesting then that Lorelai leaves Gigi at home alone with Christopher while she goes shopping with Rory. Now that they are one big happy family, shouldn’t Lorelai be including Gigi in their girls’ shopping spree? Wouldn’t Gigi prefer to go shopping than stay at home, unless she returns after Lorelai and Rory goes shopping.

Maybe she's in pre-school, or visiting Grandmama Francine?

lilmelodie · 01-07-2007, 01:30 PM

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The Lorelai comment...huh? Again, I will never understand how comparing Lorelai and Luke to Rory and Logan will solve anything, ever.

All she did was state an observation of young couples today, one that I agree with. No one's saying Rory and Logan are exactly the same, but it's a valid point. That's what this thread is for. And no, I don't fast-forward through their scenes.

Jason- you were grouping: "Again, I see LLs and JJs, turning Rory into a plot device. That's how I see it." But it was an observation you made, and I understand that. Just wanted to remind you that I'm not included in that.

Thank you. That is what I was saying.

And the grouping does get annoying.

Tara Ashley · 01-07-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ggObsessed (View Post)

That’s interesting then that Lorelai leaves Gigi at home alone with Christopher while she goes shopping with Rory. Now that they are one big happy family, shouldn’t Lorelai be including Gigi in their girls’ shopping spree? Wouldn’t Gigi prefer to go shopping than stay at home, unless she returns after Lorelai and Rory goes shopping.

Maybe she and Chris are in charge of decorating the house and Lorelai and Rory are in charge of shopping for Christmas-y stuff? Hmmm. It does seem kind of odd that they would split up.

damselfly · 01-07-2007, 01:32 PM

I think most 4 year olds would rather stay home and play than go shopping. I lost count of the number of wailing toddlers being dragged around the mall one day last month. "Mommy, I'm HUNGRY! waaaaaah" "Just 2 more stores and I promise we'll get you something to eat". Fun for all.

lilmelodie · 01-07-2007, 01:34 PM

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I think most 4 year olds would rather stay home and play than go shopping. I lost count of the number of wailing toddlers being dragged around the mall one day last month. "Mommy, I'm HUNGRY! waaaaaah" "Just 2 more stores and I promise we'll get you something to eat". Fun for all.

Exactly. They are fun for about one or two stores. Anything beyond that is just plain torturous for all with and around them. lol.

catkirk7 · 01-07-2007, 01:35 PM

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I think most 4 year olds would rather stay home and play than go shopping. I lost count of the number of wailing toddlers being dragged around the mall one day last month. "Mommy, I'm HUNGRY! waaaaaah" "Just 2 more stores and I promise we'll get you something to eat". Fun for all.

Exactly. I hated shopping when I was a little girl. Plus, she could be spending some special father/daughter time with Chris since she's been away for so long. Just because they're a family now doesn't erase the fact that she has a special bond with the man who was her sole parent since Sherry left. It would make sense for them to have some time alone together.

lancer1993 · 01-07-2007, 01:37 PM

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You make some valid points. I have on some occasion forgotten my cell phone at home and if anyone was trying to reach me that day, I would not have known about it until I returned home.

However, knowing that Christopher's absence from the hospital leads to Lorelai's epiphany and (possibly) results in the breakup of their relationship, leads me to conclusion that the writers are not going to use any of the logical reasons you mentioned for him not knowing about the crisis and will go the route of him knowing but choosing to ignore her calls and not go to the hospital.

ETA

Thanks for the new thread caf123.

I'm still thinking it must be more than Chris just not being at the hospital, it just seems a little slack if they break up 'cause he's not there this one time...oh wait that already happened with Luke in Partings with April LOL

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But if Chris is ignoring her calls and doesn't know anything her "epiphany" could happen while she has no idea where he is. It's not illogical. This doesn't have to be Lorelai's sole reason for breaking up with him. It can easily just be a trigger for bigger realizations that don't go away once she realizes where he was.

I would prefer that Chris doesn't know for Rory's sake. I can't understand how people can be so gleeful about an action that would destroy a relationship that RORY VALUES even if we have never gotten to see it on screen. I don't see how Rory and Chris's relationship can overcome this divorce if Chris knowingly ignores the fact that her grandfather is in the hospital, seriously ill. And I don't understand how someone can claim to care about Rory and still want this to occur.

ITA

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Originally Posted by 2ggObsessed

That’s interesting then that Lorelai leaves Gigi at home alone with Christopher while she goes shopping with Rory. Now that they are one big happy family, shouldn’t Lorelai be including Gigi in their girls’ shopping spree? Wouldn’t Gigi prefer to go shopping than stay at home, unless she returns after Lorelai and Rory goes shopping.

Maybe she just left her in the car and cracked a window LOL

I know bad joke and no one should leave kids or pets in the car no matter what time of year it is or the temperature.

IMO she's with the nanny or maybe with Chris and his pity party for the day?

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Originally Posted by damselfly

Thanks for the info. That opens up a few questions.

Like what? We knew Gigi was only away a few months, maybe she stayed over xMas but I thought she would be back, I just hope Chris doesn't used "what about Gigi" during the break up.

gjoni · 01-07-2007, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the thread, Caf.

Thanks for the Gigi 7.11 info, Nicolalala.
I wonder if the room formerly known as Rory's, is pink.

2ggObsessed · 01-07-2007, 01:45 PM

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But if Chris is ignoring her calls and doesn't know anything her "epiphany" could happen while she has no idea where he is. It's not illogical. This doesn't have to be Lorelai's sole reason for breaking up with him. It can easily just be a trigger for bigger realizations that don't go away once she realizes where he was.

I would prefer that Chris doesn't know for Rory's sake. I can't understand how people can be so gleeful about an action that would destroy a relationship that RORY VALUES even if we have never gotten to see it on screen. I don't see how Rory and Chris's relationship can overcome this divorce if Chris knowingly ignores the fact that her grandfather is in the hospital, seriously ill. And I don't understand how someone can claim to care about Rory and still want this to occur.

I at no time indicated glee over their relationship in my post. I was merely logically and without bias giving my opinion as to why I think the writers will have Christopher ignore Lorelai's calls and not go to the hospital. If that is the way the story develops, then it's the writers that made that decision not me.

Yes, Rory will be very hurt about the breakup of the relationship with her parents. This is a direct result of Lorelai's impetuous actions and her failure to consider the ramifications if things did not work out.

If the relationship fails, Christopher will have to work his butt off, like he's never done before, to be there for his daughter and show her that their relationship can exist outside of his relationship with her mother. He can do it and I have faith that he will do it. Lorelai also has to take responsibility for the breakup as well and also work like she has never done before in healing the pain that she caused her daughter. And I hope there is no glossing over this as they did in their reconciliation. They really need to get right into it, tell each other exactly what they feel about the situation so that everyone can learn from their mistakes and stop the constant hurting of each other.

MickeyJr3000 · 01-07-2007, 01:48 PM

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I just hope Chris doesn't used "what about Gigi" during the break up.

That question should have been asked when he proposed in the first place.

And it was (paraphrased) when he spontaneously announced he wanted to make a baby.

SarahLovesLogan · 01-07-2007, 01:51 PM

Thanks for the spoiler Nicolalala.

catkirk7 · 01-07-2007, 01:52 PM

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I at no time indicated glee over their relationship in my post. I was merely logically and without bias giving my opinion as to why I think the writers will have Christopher ignore Lorelai's calls and not go to the hospital. If that is the way the story develops, then it's the writers that made that decision not me.

Yes, Rory will be very hurt about the breakup of the relationship with her parents. This is a direct result of Lorelai's impetuous actions and her failure to consider the ramifications if things did not work out.

If the relationship fails, Christopher will have to work his butt off, like he's never done before, to be there for his daughter and show her that their relationship can exist outside of his relationship with her mother. He can do it and I have faith that he will do it. Lorelai also has to take responsibility for the breakup as well and also work like she has never done before in healing the pain that she caused her daughter. And I hope there is no glossing over this as they did in their reconciliation. They really need to get right into it, tell each other exactly what they feel about the situation so that everyone can learn from their mistakes and stop the constant hurting of each other.

Which is why I said "people" and not "you." The first part of my post was responding to you and why having Chris knowingly ignore the fact that Richard is in the hospital isn't the only "logical" way for things to play out. The rest was an observation on many many posts that HAVE expressed glee about the way this is ending without caring about how it effects Rory at all.

Tara Ashley · 01-07-2007, 01:52 PM

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I would prefer that Chris doesn't know for Rory's sake. I can't understand how people can be so gleeful about an action that would destroy a relationship that RORY VALUES even if we have never gotten to see it on screen. I don't see how Rory and Chris's relationship can overcome this divorce if Chris knowingly ignores the fact that her grandfather is in the hospital, seriously ill. And I don't understand how someone can claim to care about Rory and still want this to occur.

If you're talking about the poll, the poll doesn't ask whether or not we want something to happen; it asks what we think will happen. I don't want Christopher to ignore Lorelai's calls, but I think it's probable.

And I care a whole lot about Rory, and have said numerous times that I truly hope she and Lorelai can both maintain a relationship with Chris, post-divorce.

lancer1993 · 01-07-2007, 01:54 PM

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Maybe she and Chris are in charge of decorating the house and Lorelai and Rory are in charge of shopping for Christmas-y stuff? Hmmm. It does seem kind of odd that they would split up.

I'll buy that, they showed Luke and April bonding so why not Chris and Gigi

El286 · 01-07-2007, 01:56 PM

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Gigi will be back in 7/11

Uh-oh. This impending breakup is just going to get uglier and uglier, isn't it? First Chris is either going to be a horrible heinous character who deliberately abandons his wife and daughter, or else he's going to be--to a certain extent--a victim of circumstance who loses his wife because he was in the wrong place and the wrong time.

Now Gigi's involved, too. I was hoping that maybe she'd still be in Paris when Chris and Lorelai's marriage ended. But now this little girl, who's just spent a couple months in a foreign country with a mom she barely knew, is going to come home to find her living arrangements completely changed--new house, new stepmom and a much older half-sister she barely knows. Then, just when she begins to adjust--bang!--her father and new stepmom divorce and everything gets turned upside down again. Poor Gigi.

I understand that Chris and Lorelai can't stay together because...well, the stars have not ordained it. But in order to get these two together and then break them up, the writers are apparently going to make every single character involved into ridiculously immature, self-centred teenagers, or victims who are going to get deeply hurt. Thus far the "cracks" in Lorelai and Chris' marriage have come mostly from Lorelai being rude, selfish and pathetically clueless when it comes to compromise. I suspect when the episodes resume we'll see Chris go the same route, with an added jealous streak.

Aren't we supposed to like Lorelai? (And unlike many people, I want to like Chris, too.) But how am I supposed to admire two supposed adults who leap into marriage, have no clue how to deal with marriage, and quickly divorce, without any thought for others who might be affected along the way? The list of people who are going to be seriously hurt when their marriage ends...Rory, Emily, Richard...and now Gigi. I suppose the end of Lorelai/Chris might be good news for Luke...if he really still wants to be with Lorelai after all this. But of course, he will.