Spoilers - Gilmore Girls S&S #132 ~ Where's the Love? - Page 18

mitten07 · 01-07-2007, 06:28 PM

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Afrayed, this is the problem. If I am having a discussion with someone like Bella, and she knows what's going to happen. How am I not being ****ed with by her toying with me? This whole affair is ridiculous because one again someone knew something, let everyone keep discussing it as if there was not an answer out there, then made herself look like the hero. Since she can confirm every spec a certain group of fans have been making.

You know when Logan and Rory break-up Bella. Or if Rory ****s the TA. So spill it already. Save some of us from looking like fools when we have a discussion in here, that you know the answers too.

Jason, come on! Don't ruin the fun! It's fun, right?! RIGHT!

funnyfriend · 01-07-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gilmorebrazil (View Post)

DSR said that Richard illness should bring all Gilmore's closer. So I wonder if Lorelai's epiphany also includes the way she sees her parents. If Richard has a slow recovery, I would love to see her acting as a caring daughter and focused on her parents needs for a couple episodes. And I think it could also help her relationship with Rory after her irresponsible marriage to Christopher fails. Besides, EH, KB and LG usually make great scenes together.

That's a good point, I think Lorelai will rethink all her relationship with her parents since she realizes that they're no inmortal and some day they won't be there for her to tell them how much she loves them, no matter how difficult their relationship had been all over the years.

I also think that Emily will bring down her armor to show a more fragile image that will allow both, her and Lorelai to open their hearts to show how much they care about the other.

I hope that after the illness scare when things calm down the doors stay opened to a better relationship between Lorelai and her parents.

Cappuccino · 01-07-2007, 06:29 PM

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Again, me or anyone else who post spoilers have their hands tied. We can only post spoilers if our sources say it's ok, or else we and THEY are screwed. I can't hide my optomism if I know some things are going to happen, and I won't FAKE or LIE about it either.

It's not worth getting someone in deep trouble for it.

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ETA: Bella, you know when they get back together. So spill already. Apparently, you can never trust a JJ or an LL in this thread, because you guys have been sitting on this info for who knows how long. Again, one thing that we should have here, is some sense of TRUST between each other. We might not like one another's action, but I trust you to not **** WITH ME. By knowing a spoiler for so long that even Franzi knew about it. You guys essentially have declared yourselves as the SHIPPER GROUP that ****s around with the rest of us in the thead.

Dude you're living in the era of Internet and globalisms. Just because we live on the other side of the Atlantic doesn't mean we live in a cave.
Did it ever cross your mind that people just can't talk or spill the beans because others can get into big trouble or gave a promise not to tell what's going to happen. That it could jeopardize a lot.

2ggObsessed · 01-07-2007, 06:30 PM

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But if something a character says is completely belied by their past actions we have a right to complain and call it OOC. If Rory had EVER treated Luke as though he was like a father to her, than I wouldn't care if they made up a few stories to embellish the point. But she hasn't. So if they try to have Rory say that, I will be mad.

How many times have we watched movies/shows and seen and heard some unbelievable things and went “oh right!”, but still accepted them. I tend to criticize a lot of things that I see in movies and shows that test my logical mind (I guess that’s why I am a programmer). However, I am constantly reminded by others that it’s only a show and I am taking away from their enjoyment of it because of my over analytical mind.

I don’t know what Lorelai says in the letter and we’ll have to wait until it’s read to know. We may never have heard Rory say that Luke was important to her or was a father figure to her but how do we know every discussion she’s had with anyone on this subject (we never heard her say it and we also don’t know if she has every said it to anyone). We can only speculate on what we’ve seen and heard but we can never know everything that goes on in her and Lorelai’s lives. Because we never heard it doesn't mean it never happened. If the writers do make reference to this, we just have to accept it as fact; regardless of if we like it or not.

**Katiegg108** · 01-07-2007, 06:31 PM

Jason, it's not that smiple as someone toying with you or messing with you. If they CANNOT release the information! What do you want them to do? Stop posting until they can? That wouldn't be fair. Obviously people like Ciao and Sara give us info when they can. They're not being mean, but they can't just "spill already!" Unless you want all our spoilers to go away for a very long time.

or as capp said:

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Did it ever cross your mind that people just can't talk or spill the beans because others can get into big trouble or gave a promise not to tell what's going to happen. That it could jeopardize a lot.

little_earthquake · 01-07-2007, 06:32 PM

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afrayedknot · 01-07-2007, 06:32 PM

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Afrayed, this is the problem. If I am having a discussion with someone like Bella, and she knows what's going to happen. How am I not being ****ed with by her toying with me?

So what, because Ciaobella knows some info, she's banned from expressing an opinion? You do realize that every time a spoiler source gives info, they are risking someone's job? Their livelihood? Their career? It's not your right to be given spoilers. Nor is it anyone's obligation to share spoilers as long as they don't tease people with their knowledge. So either there are two options:

1) Get info from a spoiler source. Ciaobella (or another poster here) immediately pass on that info even if her spoiler source asks you to wait until it is safe. Jason is happy because he knows the spoiler straight away. Spoiler source never gives any more info again because they don't trust Ciaobella or they've lost their job.
2). Ciaobella gives out spoiler info but is never, ever allowed to voice an opinion on anything. So why bother posting at all? Even spoilers?

As long as there's no spoiler teasing, I don't see the problem.

Ciaobella · 01-07-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mitten07 (View Post)

Good to know that information and that you like to play this little game. Color me NOT SURPRISED. I thought there were rules about this kind of behavior on spoiler threads.

Rules of the Spoiler Thread, as listed on the First Post:

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Don't tease! If you have spoilers that you aren't able or willing to share just yet, it's inappropriate to come on the forum and tell everyone that.

Please note that asking and/or begging for more spoilers isn't necessary. Our sources give what they can, whenever it is possible, and when the time is right. Asking over and over again won't make them come any quicker, or any more detailed.

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What is really unfair is that you seem to enjoy deliberately bating posters into speccing when you know the spoiler so that you are then able to say, "Nooooo...and now HERE is your spoiler. I was always right!"

I'm enjoying spoilers that make me happy and make my friends happy. Do you ever see my name on any of Craig's Polls? No. Because that would be pretty crappy of me to put my name down officially on a Spec Poll if I knew the truth. And I think I've shown considerable restraint when debating posts speccing about Chris walking away from Lorelai, etc. At times I wished I could post the spoilers, because it didn't seem right to have people continue being convinced otherwise.

Saranoh · 01-07-2007, 06:33 PM

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You know when Logan and Rory break-up Bella. Or if Rory ****s the TA. So spill it already. Save some of us from looking like fools when we have a discussion in here, that you know the answers too.

As far as I know, neither of those things happen.

catkirk7 · 01-07-2007, 06:33 PM

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Hasn't all the whorin' between Rory and Logan been 100% on Lgan's part?

Yes, let's please please start this again.

It's all about timing. Logan though they were broken up. In fact, they WERE broken up. All of the bridesmaids mentioned Thanksgiving and after. No one can argue they weren't broken up after Thanksgiving even if it wasn't the best way to breakup.

Now Rory's getting this crush right after Logan was there for her at the hospital. After this entire season of overcoming all sorts of stupid crap. Sure, why not, let's have more stupid crap. Timing.

psunyy28 · 01-07-2007, 06:34 PM

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When do I spoiler tease? My sig reflects what MA published on his site. And my opinions always refected that. Just because I get confirmation that it is true? Am I supposed to lie and say I don't believe MA or post opinions that are phony so I don't "tease"?

So just because I am happy that all the previously released spoilers are TRUE, and not foilers or misinformation, I'm GLOATING?

Again, me or anyone else who post spoilers have their hands tied. We can only post spoilers if our sources say it's ok, or else we and THEY are screwed. I can't hide my optomism if I know some things are going to happen, and I won't FAKE or LIE about it either.

eta: Thank you afrayedknot. I said this last year, but there used to be ALOT of spoiler sources on this board. No wonder most of them left.

It's fine, go on acting innocent as usual. It's just....interesting...how so many things you "speculate" later turn into "spoilers". You have shown such great restraint.

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Yes, let's please please start this again.

It's all about timing. Logan though they were broken up. In fact, they WERE broken up. All of the bridesmaids mentioned Thanksgiving and after. No one can argue they weren't broken up after Thanksgiving even if it wasn't the best way to breakup.

Now Rory's getting this crush right after Logan was there for her at the hospital. After this entire season of overcoming all sorts of stupid crap. Sure, why not, let's have more stupid crap. Timing.

Too true, Christine.

GEORGEIII · 01-07-2007, 06:39 PM

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You know when Logan and Rory break-up Bella. Or if Rory ****s the TA. So spill it already. Save some of us from looking like fools when we have a discussion in here, that you know the answers too.

Ciaobella · 01-07-2007, 06:41 PM

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It's fine, go on acting innocent as usual. It's just....interesting...how so many things you "speculate" later turn into "spoilers". You have shown such great restraint.

Is this a contest? Does the person who gets the most specs correct win a prize? The fact that Lorelai is the one who ends the marriage is not rocket science. Alot of people here specced it.

Jason, what part of "It's Just a Crush" don't you understand?

Go Iggles.

peachypeep · 01-07-2007, 06:42 PM

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Yes, let's please please start this again.

It's all about timing. Logan though they were broken up. In fact, they WERE broken up. All of the bridesmaids mentioned Thanksgiving and after. No one can argue they weren't broken up after Thanksgiving even if it wasn't the best way to breakup.

Now Rory's getting this crush right after Logan was there for her at the hospital. After this entire season of overcoming all sorts of stupid crap. Sure, why not, let's have more stupid crap. Timing.

I was being funny, not serious! I swear I didn't mean for a discussion to start!!

lancer1993 · 01-07-2007, 06:44 PM

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When was it specced/spoiled that Rory and Logan break up??? Did I miss that?

ETA: Why do you find the TA spoiler so terrible, Jason? I don't think it's great at all, but a crush doesn't mean that she's going to go sleep with him or doubt her feelings for Logan. We don't know that yet. Once we do, then we can be dissappointed.

I agree, it's all fun for DSR to screw with L&L but as soon as he give Rory something new to do, which we know little of yet then the world is going to end!